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p.21 #1 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


Love this camera,

300/2.8L IS @ f/2.8
http://www.pbase.com/imagebypeter/image/122478172/original.jpg



Mar 04, 2010 at 03:28 PM
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p.21 #2 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


Nill Toulme wrote:
It's better to change your settings one or two at a time, so you understand what each one is doing and why.

Nill



Boy is that the truth!!! Embarrissingly, I changed a setting then a few days later noticed that all my ISO readings appeared in lower case characters and some were missing or halved, like the digit "8"=o. Dah!!!!!! I changed a setting(yes there is a CFn that will cause the ISO in the top LCD to do this!) that causes this!!
Now I try 1 thing at a time..Good advice Nill!
Dan



Mar 04, 2010 at 03:30 PM
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p.21 #3 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


Nill Toulme wrote:
It's better to change your settings one or two at a time, so you understand what each one is doing and why.

Nill


Yep, good advice!

I figured out it was the "Operation Others- #1 -3 " that was turning off my AF

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Mar 04, 2010 at 03:32 PM
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p.21 #4 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


mdbassman wrote:
Boy is that the truth!!! Embarrissingly, I changed a setting then a few days later noticed that all my ISO readings appeared in lower case characters and some were missing or halved, like the digit "8"=o. Dah!!!!!! I changed a setting(yes there is a CFn that will cause the ISO in the top LCD to do this!) that causes this!!
Now I try 1 thing at a time..Good advice Nill!
Dan


When you enabled HTP, the ISO display will do that..



Mar 04, 2010 at 03:37 PM
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p.21 #5 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


lidesun wrote:
Love this camera,

300/2.8L IS @ f/2.8


The camera seems to work fine in your hands, Lide. The horizontal BIF shots like yours are always very effective, and the sepia tint works well on the image. The gull positioning in the frame is perfect, on the N&W forum you will not find better. The gull shadow is a bonus.



Mar 04, 2010 at 03:43 PM
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PetKal wrote:
The camera seems to work fine in your hands, Lide. The horizontal BIF shots like yours are always very effective, and the sepia tint works well on the image. The gull positioning in the frame is perfect, on the N&W forum you will not find better. The gull shadow is a bonus.


Thanks, Peter!

I should get a 400/5.6L later for shooting this kind of stuff..

Cheers



Mar 04, 2010 at 03:48 PM
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lidesun wrote:
I should get a 400/5.6L later for shooting this kind of stuff..



Yes, you should, Lide.
400 f/5.6 works OK on BIF too. This is my last gull shots taken with it the other day. With my outdated/obsolete 1DMkIIN.


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Mar 04, 2010 at 04:06 PM
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I didn't know where to put the reference to this thread or review on the Mark IV so I thought that rather than starting an altogether new one, I would post it here. It's a nicely put together piece of work and offers some useful comparisons. Again, the need to keep shutter speeds up due to the higher pixel density of the Mark IV is emphasized. Some good insights for the wildlife shooter as well.

http://www.ophrysphotography.co.uk/pages/tutorial_canon1d4.htm

Cheers-Chuck



Mar 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM
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p.21 #9 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


Thx Chuck nice link well worth a click, if only for the chart for lens testing.


Mar 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM
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I had a chance to test out the 1D Mark IV in less than ideal light. I found a large group of eagles moving through the area. It was especially gloomy, and I'd rather not shoot in those conditions, but this is about the end of the eagles moving through. So, I thought I'd give it a try. Most of these were shot at ISO 1250. I probably should have gone higher because that ISO was only giving me shutter speeds in the range of 1/800 to 1/1000, and I'd really like to have a lot faster than that. I got a nice variety of types of shots, including some with busy backgrounds. All shots were in servo using the center point expanded to surrounding points. Other focus settings were as explained in the guide on my site. These were shot with the 500/4 and 1.4x. Most were wide open at f5.6 so that I could squeeze out as much shutter speed as I could. For the shots of multiple birds, I stopped down a bit to try to get some increased depth of field.

Other shots from the shoot can be found on the bottom of the "what's new" page on my site.
http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/What_s_New/what_s_new.html

Les Zigurski

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2205eagles-3-12-101.jpg

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Mar 12, 2010 at 06:41 PM
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p.21 #11 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


Where were the Eagles shot? What state or Country?


Mar 12, 2010 at 06:56 PM
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WOW!!! those eagle shots are amazing...what a majestic creature. Number 7 looks like they are ready to attack something.


Mar 12, 2010 at 09:34 PM
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uz2work wrote:
I had a chance to give the 1D Mark IV what I thought was a pretty good test of its ...



Amazing!

Any chance to show a 100% crop for this sequence?

Or at least can you compare it with your previous bodies?

Thanks in advance.



Mar 12, 2010 at 09:45 PM
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p.21 #14 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


jbfaulconer wrote:
Where were the Eagles shot? What state or Country?


The eagles are in Illinois on the backwaters of the Mississippi.

Les



Mar 12, 2010 at 10:37 PM
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jxsq wrote:
Amazing!

Any chance to show a 100% crop for this sequence?

Or at least can you compare it with your previous bodies?

Thanks in advance.


Getting some 100% crops up on my server is kind of a pain. So, I'd rather not do that, but, if you send me a PM with an email address, I'll send you a couple.

With regard to comparing, the 1D Mark IV is, without question, the best body I've used. I loved my 1D Mark III, which was a significant step up from the Mark II in every way, including AF. The Mark IV is just that much better. While I liked the AF on the 1D Mark III, the 1D Mark IV is just a bit steadier. It locks on in servo, and it doesn't want to let go. Today, I took about 300 shots. I don't think I trashed more than 3 or 4 for being out of focus, and those were user error. I'd say that higher ISO performance is marginally better than the 1D Mark III, which was already excellent, but the difference isn't as much as Canon might lead you to believe. For me, a big difference is the 16 mp sensor. It just gives me significantly more latitude to crop (or print larger). Of the shots that I posted (here and on my site), there is a wide range from slight crops to moderate crops to severe crops. I know that the small web-sized files that I've posted don't show off the detail as much as I'd like, but I'm finding that I'm getting quality pictures in situations where, with an 8 or 10 mp camera, I probably wouldn't have bothered to take the shot. Other than that, I'll probably never use the video, and, while things like the higher resolution screen are nice, they are not critical to me. So, for me, the bottom line is that the 1D Mark IV builds on and improves the things I really liked about the 1D Mark III.

Les



Mar 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM
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p.21 #16 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


very nice eagles, sir.


Mar 13, 2010 at 12:53 AM
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p.21 #17 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


In my opinion,

The EOS 1D III is good, and the EOS 1D IV is even better.

Both are good, though.

1D III:

http://www.coldsiberia.net/85mm/_c6v5863_1000.jpg

1D IV:

http://www.coldsiberia.net/vasaloppet_2010/images/_F6C1195_800.jpg

Bogatyr



Mar 13, 2010 at 06:41 AM
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uz2work wrote:
Getting some 100% crops up on my server is kind of a pain. So, I'd rather not do that, but, if you send me a PM with an email address, I'll send you a couple.

With regard to comparing, the 1D Mark IV is, without question, the best body I've used. I loved my 1D Mark III, which was a significant step up from the Mark II in every way, including AF. The Mark IV is just that much better. While I liked the AF on the 1D Mark III, the 1D Mark IV is just a bit steadier. It
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Thank you so much for your insight!



Mar 14, 2010 at 02:32 AM
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Diffraction issues are separable into two type with digital sensors:

Type one is the effect on the final print (similar to depth of field blur and circle of confusion). This is pretty much subjectively based upon a standard print size and viewing distance -- for a full frame sensor you will want to stay at or below f16 and most probably at about f8 for most lenses. For a 1.3 factor sensor you will probably want to stay at or below f11 with the sweet spot at f8 for most lenses. For a 1.6 factor sensor you will probably want to stay at or below f9 with a sweet spot at f8 for most lenses.... Get the idea?

Type two is based on when the diffraction spot size is twice the pixel size and overlaps the pixel dimensions. The following link gives you an idea about the effects there... http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm

Grover Larkins



Mar 14, 2010 at 12:30 PM
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I apologize for more 1D Mark IV eagles, but I'm having so much fun with the camera. Most of the morning, the skies were dismal (again), and I had to kick up the ISO, but the sun did come out for a while. All of these were shot with the 500/4 and 1.4x in servo mode and wide open at f5.6. I was using the center point expanded to surrounding points via CF III 8. Other settings are as in the guide on my site. More shots from today can be found on the "what's new" page of my site.

http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/What_s_New/what_s_new.html

Les Zigurski

1.
http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2606eagles-3-15-103.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2481eagles-3-15-103.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2794eaglesa-3-15-101.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2835eagles-3-15-101.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2542eagles-3-15-103.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2698eagles-3-15-101.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2531eagles-3-15-101.jpg

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http://www.wildlifeimagesbyles.net/db_B14D2652eagles-3-15-101.jpg




Mar 14, 2010 at 07:34 PM
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