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p.1 #1 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I was thinking that, in the past, I only upgraded my cameras when I was really up the wall over some particular feature that was either annoying or lacking. For instance; I went to F100 bodies from F3 bodies because the F3 flash sync speed of only 1/80 became a major annoyance and the fact that it was not AF. I also wanted a hot shoe and I wanted AF.
I went from a pair of D70s bodies to D300 bodies because of the larger preview screen on the D300, better AF and the fact that the SB-800 flash units never worked right for me with the D70s bodies. The SB-800 works much better with the D300 bodies.
What "forced " you to upgrade your camera body and did you regret it? Sometimes those "old" camera bodies are like old friends and are missed when they are gone.

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Feb 06, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I went from a D2H to a D90 not too long ago... my reasons were: superior ISO performance, superior resolution, smaller size, lighter weight, and built-in flash remote flash triggering. I regretted it though. There's just something about the robust feel of a speed machine like the D2H in your hands that makes shooting fun.

I recently bought a gripped D300 to replace my D90 to maintain the same ISO & resolution performance, but with the feel of my old D2H. All is right in my world

Now I just need to sell the D90 to afford other gear.



Feb 06, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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p.1 #3 · What made you upgrade the camera?


My last two rounds of upgrades with DSLRs have been driven by AF. XT -> 20D -> D300

I tried a 5D, the AF was the same as the 20D. Tried a 1DmkII, disliked the interface and weight. My next upgrade will be driven by high ISO quality and video capability. Now that I've seen what a D3s can do ISO wise I'm jealous.



Feb 06, 2010 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #4 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I basically upgrade when the new camera can help me do something my old one couldn't.

For instance, I need as much good resolution as possible (I like cropping options and big prints), so a D3x is CLOSE to my ideal camera. So, I upgraded to it from my D3. The D3 was great, but the D3x fits my particular purposes better.

Now, my ideal camera would probably be in the 35-40MP range, have D3 like ISO quality, and happily shoot away at 10 FPS all day long. That camera isn't here yet - or even close - so I use whatever camera fits the bill best at the time. My guess, is the D5 will be about my ideal camera. I think a D4x will probably have the resolution I want, but not the noise characteristics. So, I'll keep upgrading and waiting



Feb 06, 2010 at 01:30 PM
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p.1 #5 · What made you upgrade the camera?


Pentax MG->FG20 because the Pentax was broken->F70 for AF->F90 I couldnot get used to the LCD-based control display without a light->D70 digital->d300 iso->D700 iso->D2h as extra for the charger, so I got the camera for €200, to use the EN EL4 in a gripped D700.


Feb 06, 2010 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #6 · What made you upgrade the camera?


Went from D30 straight to 5D mkI.
The D30 had only 3mp, terrible AF, terrible VF, was very slow, and you could only review your pics at 2x, and it wasn't FF.

Needless to say I'm mega happy with the 5D

J



Feb 06, 2010 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #7 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I downgraded from a D700 to a Leica M8 because I hate large and heavy cameras. I still own and use the D700, but whenever the weather is fine (over zero Celsius), the M8 has my love.


Feb 06, 2010 at 02:57 PM
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p.1 #8 · What made you upgrade the camera?


The main reasons for changing (IIRC)

D70->D200
the screen !! (higher resolution and ability to really check sharpness !)
better AF
better ISO performance
Speed (continuous shooting)
ability to use AI/AIS lenses
more buttons (I am serious)
everything else

D200->D3
high ISO performance
speed
crop mode
build, pro-body

future upgrade (the reasons for which I would change)
improved ISO performance
higher resolution (16MP+)
true 1080p video (with usable AF if needed)
multi-shot and true focus capabilities (cf Hasselblad)
or
a DX pro-body with 1 to 2 EV ISO performance improvement vs the D300s

Guy



Feb 06, 2010 at 03:03 PM
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p.1 #9 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I progressed from FA>n8008s>f100>f5>coolpix5700>d70>d200>d300.
I did this because every time I got a newer camera, I became a better photographer. I'm so good now I'm scared to go to the d700 or maybe even the d3. What the hell.
Kim



Feb 06, 2010 at 03:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I have been reasonability successful in upgrading only for specific features. For my PRIMARY cameras over the past 40 years:

Pentax spotmatic - First serious camera
YashikaMat 124 - For MF when I had my own darkroom
Pentax super Program - No more darkroom, back to SLR for convenience
Pentax optio - First experimentation with digital
D70 - First affordable dSLR (for me)
D200 - Better AF and Low light for my daughters Fencing competitions

Would have upgraded to D300 (possibly D700) if my daughter was still in high school for the somewhat better ISO and AF. For now, I am resisting the FF temptation while I experiment with MF (6x7) and LF (4x5) film for landscapes.



Feb 06, 2010 at 03:59 PM
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p.1 #11 · What made you upgrade the camera?


D50 -> D2H:
Pro build and high FPS
Built in grip
Better ergonomics all over - hated the menu diving in the D50
Bigger viewfinder

D2H -> D300
Higher resolution
Better high ISO
Better screen
Lighter
I thought I'd use live view more than I have for macro.

If I ever upgrade the body again I'll probably go for a D700s if it's ever released. Not likely to change anytime soon. The D300 is great for my needs, no real issues with it. Concentrating on glass only now.



Feb 06, 2010 at 04:14 PM
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p.1 #12 · What made you upgrade the camera?


williamkazak wrote:
What "forced " you to upgrade your camera body and did you regret it? Sometimes those "old" camera bodies are like old friends and are missed when they are gone.


Hi williamkazak,

I went from a D70s to a D200 to get better all-around IQ (especially low-light and higher ISO), more resolution, mirror lockup, better AE bracketing, faster AF, better ergonomics, and faster frame rate. After I got comfortable with the D200, I sold my FM3A (never liked that it didn't have mirror lockup). No regrets.

I got a D700 for better all-around IQ (especially low-light IQ and high ISO), wider angle of view and the ability to use better/faster lenses to full advantage, a much brighter viewfinder, and faster AF. Sold my last film camera to get it (Ebony SV45TE). No regrets. I still have all three DSLRs.



Feb 06, 2010 at 04:31 PM
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p.1 #13 · What made you upgrade the camera?


D40 -> D80
2 Dials for better manual operation
AF Screw in body
Better fit for my hand

D80 -> D700
ISO ISO ISO
Better IQ
Larger Viewfinder
Tank Build
Larger Screen
Auto bracketing control
FX focal length better fit for my lenses and shooting style

I will probably not upgrade the body until 2 generations of D700'esque bodies are released.





Feb 06, 2010 at 04:50 PM
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p.1 #14 · What made you upgrade the camera?


Pentacon F to Konica of some sort: auto aperture mode, built-in light metering (TTL), shutter working right without black streak on one side of negative…
Konica to Canon A-1: name brand camera, multi exposure modes, motor drive, huge lens choice
Canon A-1 to Canon New F1: finally a pro-body, motor, exchangeable VF, rugged: I had arrived!
Hiatus (no photography)…
Canon F1 to Nikon 6006 or 8008 or something like that: Canon had changed lens mount while I slept, and its 50mm Macro was only 1:2 without extension tube. I was pissed at Canon, Nikon here I come (still very little photography, though…)
Nikon 6 or 8xxx or whatever to Fuji S2 Pro: I new I did not want to use silly chemicals and minutely controlled lab conditions to do my pics, even when there were no computers for individuals. Now the technology seemed good enough, and this cam was affordable, and available at local camera shop (helps to handle things one has never handled before!)
Fuji S2 Pro to Canon 20D: dark days of Nikon - the Fuji was too difficult to maintain batterywise, I always ran out in the field. Nikon's offerings were either dismal (D100? D70? don't recall which model, but long in tooth at the time I bought) or unaffordable (D2X). I never liked the 20D, it seemed cheap and simple, the LCD was pathetically small. Then Canon pissed me off again by releasing the 30D just a few months after I had already bought, with no real change but a bigger LCD!
20D to 1DIII: finally a pro camera again happyness, no AF probs, but heavy and large and not quite FF. Great for sports, but a bit clumsy for general use.
Brief add-ons of 50D (disgust: why make this cripple cam, an essentially revamped 20D, when Nikon already had the D300 out for months?) sold quickly, brrr. 5DII - FF, but again CRIPPLED!!! a gimp of a camera, a 'special needs' product, needs special protection from elements due to no real weatherization, special manual focusing due to pathetic AF. (all the while looking with lust at Nikon D700 - real working camera, no more expensive than 5D Mk toy) sold again, added Pentax for travel and lightweight use, great little cam, but AF is too amateurish for serious action shooting, and high ISO is compromised due to APS-C.
Waited, hoping for fabled 3D, a FF with good build and good AF, not too many pixels. Canon released 7D instead, good in its way, nice for birds, but for me that's a fringe use.
1D4 comes out, at the same time as Nikon's D3s. I think, I deliberate, I decide that I've had it with Canon! Hell, I can afford to sell lenses at some loss, people do it with cars, boats, snowmobiles, RVs all the time.
I will get a Nikon again, see if I like the system, and go from there. Local dealer was selling off old D3 demos, old 70-200 lenses, I go, I buy. So far I'm very happy with it, but haven't had enough chance to use it.
If I like it a lot, and I think I need it, I'll upgrade to the D3s, but sofar the ISOs are good enough. same with lens. we'll try some indoor sports tonight finally - see if it's better, worse or the same as 1D3.
only bummer is Nikon tax on lenses, but then there's the 5 year warranty, not a slouch exactly, compared to Canon's 1 year period.
The shadow recoverability is great: one of these is HDR, the other is not. Both have the forested areas backlit, a dark grey-brown in the RAW file. The colors are enhanced but not created (I did not selectively change WB, for instance, or any similar trick)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/helmutsteinwender/4327068288/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/helmutsteinwender/4331140565/



Feb 06, 2010 at 05:01 PM
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p.1 #15 · What made you upgrade the camera?


D300 --> D700

Viewfinder. That's it.

I later discovered the ISO advantages.



Feb 06, 2010 at 05:06 PM
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p.1 #16 · What made you upgrade the camera?


D80 >>>>> D300S recently

I've never been into "the latest is always the greatest", so my upgrades are for objective reasons when finances will allow.

Primarliy: Better AF speed, better lowlight AF performance
Better high iso performance

Secondarily: More customization of settings
Much better larger lcd

Last but not least: I really missed 100% viewfinder since the film days, so am
thrilled with that.

No regrets, but I am still in the getting acquainted phase with my D300S...

Lora



Feb 06, 2010 at 05:41 PM
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p.1 #17 · What made you upgrade the camera?


I went from the D70 to the D2X because a) I had the money at the time, and b) I wanted 12 megapixels so I could print larger. I gave the D70 to the sister in law, then added a D80 as a backup. Decided to go full frame so gave the D80 to the sister in law, and added a D700. Can't afford the D3X, so I will have to wait. And wait. And wait.


Feb 06, 2010 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #18 · What made you upgrade the camera?


Canon 50D to Nikon D700 for the better hi ISO. I take a lot of pictures in our house of our kids and it's kinda dark in there. I wasn't happy with ISO 1600 out of the canon and I'm a lot happier with my Nikon.


Feb 06, 2010 at 06:18 PM
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p.1 #19 · What made you upgrade the camera?


From Fuji S3 to Nikon D300 about 1.5 years ago
Pros:
+ CLS: I learned to hate cables with multi-flash setup
+ Better high ISOs: Though I seldom need to go over ISO 1600 with f/>2 lenses I like to have the possibility and the images are cleaner even after ISO800
+ Faster shooting: 7/s vs. 2.5/s. Nikon also writes the photos faster to the card.
+ Faster and better AF: Nikon has faster AF even when using the motor on the camera. AF-S (and HSM) also work faster. The servo can also follow subjects (51 points vs 5 points)
+ Smaller files: Fuji outputted 24Mb RAW files, Nikon gives me better detail with just 13.8Mb RAW files
+ Smaller body: a body with integrated grip is larger and heavier than non-gripped one. Smaller is nicer to carry around...

Cons:
- ... but all though smaller body is nicer to carry around and more inconspicuous, body with a grip is nicer to shoot with — especially after you're used to one.
- Colours: Fuji's film simulation modes just made better colours out of the camera
- Dynamics: Fuji had better dynamics (though I didn't test then Nikon on 14-bit mode). To D300's defense I have to say that it gets the exposure "more right" than Fuji so there is less need for adjusting.



Feb 06, 2010 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #20 · What made you upgrade the camera?


1971 - Yashica rangefinder --> Mamiya 1000DTL because the Yashica was stolen
1973 - Mamiya 1000 DTL --> Nikon F2 because ... well ... it was time for a Nikon
198x - somewhere in the eighties I bought an Olympus point-n-shoot that my wife dropped & broke.
2000 - added Mamiya M645 because I thought I needed medium format
2001 - bought a used Nikon D1 because digital intrigued me
2002 - film - bah! Commited to digital, upgraded to D1x for Adobe RGB support, higher MPIX and better menus
2004 - upgraded to D2h - shooting a lot of high school sports
2004 - added a D70 - my wife & kids use it
2005 - added a D2x, damn if I know why, but I never regretted it
2008 - D700 - FX!

Still have the F2, the M645, the D1, the D1x, the D70, the D2x and the D700. I'm better at buying than selling.



Feb 06, 2010 at 07:00 PM
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