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 p.60 #14 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!) | |
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
May I ask why you could not use 21ZE outside holiday? I first had problems finding subjects for 21mm, but it has gotten easier by time, thou one needs different mindset for shooting this wide lens. For a long time my widest lens was 25mm Distagon on 1.3x, and I had very little use for it...
Adam, best in what sense? As average for all generic shooting situations (which I would agree - based on same criteria 17-85 zoom is excellent if we ask from wider audience, which I'm sure most in Alt forum don't consider very good...) or subset of some situations or just best in all possibly imaginable situations?  Seems that any hint of having opinion to "other direction" requires one to write a 1000 page book, so I'm not going to let you this easy from blurbing this kind of generic statement (and this was joke - no need to answer)
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Samuli - You may be right about finding subjects to shoot with my 21mm.... Though I feel that if I'm going to buy a lens, I should be able to use it for work. And in my line of work, I rarely if ever see a need for 21mm.. That's the only reason why I feel I shouldn't buy the lens, but in all fairness I could get by without any of my Zeiss glass, so this is why I'm still on the fence about the lens. I'm really hoping one comes by at a price I cannot refuse, before the end of next week.
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OH, and I'll totally justify in my own way what I mean about the 50 MP ZE.
I use my Zeiss glass for work and play. I keep a folder called Zeiss Samples on my desktop, and I only fill it with photos where the lens rendering moves me. Even if the composition is bad, or the persons squinting etc..
The other day I was looking through this quite large folder now, and noticed a few shots that really stood out. A couple of portraits and a building shot. I checked the EXIF as I thought they may be 85ZE shots for there bokeh and 35ZE shots for there landscape realism. It turns out, they were from the 50 MP ZE.
Now I'm not a landscape photographer, so when I wrote that it was the best 50 IMO, I was taking into consideration what I use a 50mm lens for. I use a 50mm to take shots of people with a bit more info in the background, both close up and half body. I also use a 50mm for quirky walk around shots (and now I have macro abilities), as well as building and the odd landscaped shot.
So I liked the 50's richness of colors, and I liked it's out of focus areas, plus sharpness wide open. This was for the first portrait. (head+shoulders crop)
The second portrait had this lively bokeh, really made me smile. (half body crop)
The third was a lookbook I shot, the 24-70L couldn't get the eyes sharp and detailed at f/11 I figured try the Zeiss. And when I zoomed in to compare the two images, I realized the 50 MP ZE was gold. I can see the fibers in the eyes on a full body shot of a model at f/11 something I couldn't get with my 24-70L. (full body)
This building I was shooting, again not a particularily nice composition, but it really jumped out at me, like woah, I'm just standing on the street looking at it, and not a picture of it. (near infinity or infinity)
So for my needs this 50 is a perfect all around lens. Samuli you have to understand though, I picked up the 100 MP ZE first, and was amazed by how different (better) the focusing was from a Canon L to a Zeiss.. Then the 50 MP ZE, then the 35 ZE, then the 85 ZE... So it went from shitty focusing, to makro short throw but ultimately good focusing to wide angle semi better focusing to the 85 which was good for focusing. What I guess I'm getting at is, since I started with two macros, I got use to the idea of short rotations in the mid ranges, and it doesn't bother me as I assume it bothers you.
BTW, as a side note, I have this shot taken with the 5DII and the 100 MP ZE, at around f/5.6 I think, and I just took it as the model was still around and I wanted to use the lens if even for 2 crap photos, as I was using the 50 MP all day. Anyway, I took the shot and when I got home and zoomed in on the detail, it really reminded me of this RAW file someone posted with the Leica Medium format camera. The detail, color and overall beauty was actually in the file, and again I've shot with Canon for a good many years now, and I've never once seen this level of realism and detail.
I know you didn't really need a response but I hope this helps to clarify my bold, no explanation statement.
Oh, and I've had a really brief try with the 50 1.4 ZE, and although I can see it's charm, as I do have the 85ZE and know it's charm. I still think the 50 MP ZE wide open makes a better headshot/portrait lens, you just have to know how to shoot with it. As I will agree that like the 100 MP ZE, it doesn't always give the best bokeh. Though again, I really did surprise myself when I took a look in my folder and seen all those 50 samples.
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I am writing while I'm in Thailand on the way to Phi Phi island with my fiancee too.