It's great to see so many wonderful images here!
It was a very stormy day today here, but the wind was blowing and I decided to give it a shot.
Sometimes we get lucky to catch a short (a few minutes!) break
Those are California Poppies, ProPhoto RGB as always, so please use
a browser with color management.
Great shots by everyone. The zeiss bug is spreading
Love the shots Andrew.
I have the IE8, Chrome and firefox, and comparing your images, the red and orange is virtually non existant in IE8 and Chrome. With Chrome and IE8 the poppies are rendered almost as dull, pastel orange in all the images.
With Firefox, they are amazing!
charles.K wrote:
Great shots by everyone. The zeiss bug is spreading
Love the shots Andrew.
I have the IE8, Chrome and firefox, and comparing your images, the red and orange is virtually non existant in IE8 and Chrome. With Chrome and IE8 the poppies are rendered almost as dull, pastel orange in all the images.
With Firefox, they are amazing!
I know. But I'm tired of leveling down to the cr@ppy products and using sRGB.
I have to assume if somebody is serious about photography, he uses a good browser.
The difference is the biggest when you have a lot of yellow and orange.
It's OK to use sRGB when you just have green and blue...
The pictures look as intended on a Mac, both Safari and Firefox
and Windows 7 works well as well I think, except IE and Chrome...
I actually installed Safari a month or so back just so I can see how Snowboarders photographs are meant to be seen! The flowers are definitely a dramatically different color as sRGB. I really wish Google gets on the whole Color Profile bandwagon, since its nearly a perfect browser.
bluetsunami wrote:
I actually installed Safari a month or so back just so I can see how Snowboarders photographs are meant to be seen! The flowers are definitely a dramatically different color as sRGB. I really wish Google gets on the whole Color Profile bandwagon, since its nearly a perfect browser.
I have to say this is the biggest compliment I've ever heard!
Thank you so much!
Yeah, I actually really don't like this area, it's quite rough and boring,
but right now poppies are all I have left here to shoot and with today's weather
it was a gamble... With a boring blue sky those pictures would be... boring
Andrew: I am using windows 7 64 bit, and calibrated monitor and firefox is the only browser that works at the moment with color management.
You have convinced me to start using ProPhoto RGB, as a preferred color space. I have read quite a lot about it is superior, and more representive of the colors that are within the camera raw files.
How are you able to see all those colors. To the best of my knowledge, there are no monitors which can display this color space as their native color space ? I was using this color space earlier, but all my photos were looking really weird on Smugmug (Firefox / Safari). One can check for out of gamut issues in this color space and fix those issues. But when you fix those out of gamut warnings, it pretty much becomes very close to Adobe RGB. Is that correct or am I missing something. I would love to use ProPhoto RGB, but my images look weird on some websites.
snowboarder wrote:
Yeah, I actually really don't like this area, it's quite rough and boring,
but right now poppies are all I have left here to shoot and with today's weather
it was a gamble... With a boring blue sky those pictures would be... boring
Yeah, like mine when I was there. May go back too, they're still nice.
snowboarder wrote:
I have to assume if somebody is serious about photography, he uses a good browser.
I'm an exemption of your rule. I still use IE8. I'm used to it and for 99% of the images displayed on the web, there is no difference. Sadly your pictures look pretty bad in IE.
Once or twice I've started Firefox just to see your pictures and they look really great there.
I would prefer if you would use SRGB, but I understand and accept your point of view.
Maybe someone should start a poll how many people here on FM use IE (or chrome) vs. a browser with PRO RGB support.
As somebody else already said, most monitors can't display the Prophoto RGB, matter of fact I dont think any can. On the other hand most good moniters can come close to covering the aRGB gamut.
Cheap LCD's mostly cant even cover the sRGB gamut and clip colours - particularly yellows. Yellows also have a tendency to go strongly off hue with these panels.
(I'm talking consumer samsungs, viewsonics, chimeis, dells etc).
All things to remember when you have a web gallery to show 'normal' people with average computers...
Empire wrote:
do any browsers actually support Prophoto RGB?
As somebody else already said, most monitors can't display the Prophoto RGB, matter of fact I dont think any can. On the other hand most good moniters can come close to covering the aRGB gamut.
Cheap LCD's mostly cant even cover the sRGB gamut and clip colours - particularly yellows. Yellows also have a tendency to go strongly off hue with these panels.
(I'm talking consumer samsungs, viewsonics, chimeis, dells etc).
All things to remember when you have a web gallery to show 'normal' people with average computers...
Here's a screen grab that's converted to sRGB to show the difference I'm seeing between Safari 4 on the left and Firefox 3 on the right on OS X 10.5.8:
(Andrew I hope you don't mind me displaying your images in this manner)
