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p.156 #1 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


philber wrote:
Ajay, IMHO shooting JPEG and Zeiss run against each other. People shoot Zeiss in order to get the best shot they can. To achieve this, they sacrifice quite a bit of ease-of-use. To shoot JPG instead of RAW is exactly that: easy instead of ultimate quality.


+1

Those two things don't really go together. In-camera JPEG conversion is atrocious to image quality if you intend to do post processing such as..resizing the image. 8 bits per channel instead of 14 is not nice for processing colors.

If you have Lightroom, why even think of in-camera conversions? You can configure it easily enough to render JPEGs automatically when you plug in the memory card if you feel that you really must have ready JPEG files...



Sep 02, 2010 at 04:54 PM
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p.156 #2 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Philippe and Luka,

Thanks for your inputs. I do realize that to have 14-bit data instead of 8-bit data is important for most PP. However, I have seen some folks render straight JPG data out of the camera, while achieving remarkable results, and not only that, but also are able to, for example, emulate different film stocks using custom Picture Styles. I understand this is not very suitable for images that are intended for PP, resizing etc. So, I just wondered if any of you folks tried Pic Styles etc, remote chance, but still wanted to know

Luka, I did not think of configuring LR3 to render JPG's, while importing RAW files. I always copied them onto a HDD and added them to LR database. Thanks for the tip!



Sep 02, 2010 at 05:53 PM
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p.156 #3 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Picture styles are very primitive and you can do film stock emulation much better by processing the RAW files. There is one occasion where it can be desirable to use picture styles and that's when shooting video. By using a super flat profile you can maximize dynamic range (i.e. sacrifice the mid tones for greater latitude) so that you get a faux-RAW output that you can perform grading on.


Sep 02, 2010 at 06:09 PM
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p.156 #4 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


I did not manage to go out and shoot today but I managed to shoot a set of flare tests of all my Zeiss glass from my balcony. Perhaps not very interesting aesthetically but the results might be informative..





































Essentially the 85/1.4 is the only one showing any problems with flare. Not surprising given its massive front element and the amount of glass they have packed into that lens.

For comparison, here is a shot with a Canon 85/1.8:








Sep 02, 2010 at 06:18 PM
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p.156 #5 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Nice view from the balcony!


Sep 02, 2010 at 07:25 PM
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p.156 #6 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Peirre, Amazing flowers shots! Excellent to see the Zeiss glass with the 550/7D.

Joakim, great series with the 85/1.4. #1 is my pick.

Bob, congrats on the 100MP. Nice shots!

Ajay, every camera whether it is a D3, 5D11, EP-1 or GF-1 or P&S, all benefit in RAW data acquisition. Your workflow can be customised as Luka suggested to minimise the time spent. If you are a journalist on a tight schedule, and need to download files to an editor, then JPEG are often used with very good results. The only downside to RAW is managing and saving the larger amounts of data. My data I now save to external 1 Terabyte passport drive in the office and while travelling. It is quick and portable, and essential as a backup.

Great examples Luka. I would not have imagined the flare from the 85/1.4 to be that high.



Sep 02, 2010 at 07:46 PM
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p.156 #7 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Granby, Co
Zeiss 21
Shows off its corner sharpness








Sep 02, 2010 at 09:14 PM
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p.156 #8 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Excellent images Bob!


Sep 02, 2010 at 10:09 PM
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p.156 #9 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thank you very much charles.K.Seems that do some very nice portraits with M9 and put aside ZE lenses for a while

Thank you very much mortyb.No,it was not Nikon,but 50ZF has a Nikon mount at least!

Thank you so much rsolti.These flowers are growing in the botanical garden of my home city Wrocław/Breslau in south-western Poland. .I go there every time I feel tired to shoot some flowers,which relaxes me.

rji2goleez - thank you very much.No doubts your new 100MP is having plenty shots ahead to take and will bring you a lot of fun.BTW: water of Lake Michigan is as blue as I remember from my last trip

denoir:forgot to tell you - I like very very much your shot of the moored motorboat reflecting itself on the water,and yes,tripods help to squeeze max res out of a lense but they are so clumsy!

joakim - I like 1st and 2nd picture most



Sep 03, 2010 at 02:44 AM
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p.156 #10 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Peire wrote:
denoir:forgot to tell you - I like very very much your shot of the moored motorboat reflecting itself on the water,and yes,tripods help to squeeze max res out of a lense but they are so clumsy!


Thanks Peire! I love your flower shots - you have certainly elevated that art to a new level.

As for tripod, get a light, compact carbon fiber one (I can recommend t Gitzo 1541t). It is a world apart from equally sized aluminum tripods and really not clumsy. It takes about five seconds to expand or fold it and it weighs < 1 kg. Add a good ballhead and you'll have very good stability and opportunity to compose the image.

I really hated using a tripod before I got a good one. Weight and size really make a difference there.

Two more boat shots with the 85/1.4:













rji2goleez wrote:
Nice view from the balcony!


Thanks Bob. It serves as my camera & lens testing lab

Specifically a bit more to the left is my standard lens test target:








Nice shots with the 21 by the way!



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p.156 #11 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Peire wrote:
I look around and see that summer is gone.I try to catch it's fading mood in the flowers.

7D+100 ZE

550D+50 ZF



Wow ! Such beautiful colors. Great job Peire.



Sep 03, 2010 at 07:13 AM
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p.156 #12 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Amazing shots rji2goeez!


Sep 03, 2010 at 09:52 AM
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p.156 #13 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Rexx714: Thanks.

Bob, nice set, I would hang 1 and 3 on my wall! Both the 21 and 100 are on my list



Sep 03, 2010 at 10:13 AM
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p.156 #14 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thank you very much sanjayg
Excellent night shots with dramatic cloudy sky rji2goleez
Very nice quiet and peaceful waterscapes denoir
bop gun - your shot illustrates somehow my vision of an american road



Sep 03, 2010 at 10:16 AM
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p.156 #15 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


jph1, digitalthump, Peire - Thanks for your comments.

digitalthump - both lenses are pretty new for me. Still learning but they are awesome lenses.



Sep 03, 2010 at 10:23 AM
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p.156 #16 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Bob, excellent work. I really like #1. Those clouds were moving quite fast


Sep 03, 2010 at 10:48 AM
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p.156 #17 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


rsolti13 wrote:
Bob, excellent work. I really like #1. Those clouds were moving quite fast

+1. What he says!



Sep 03, 2010 at 11:20 AM
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p.156 #18 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Nice shots Bob, especially #1

Sorry about the repetitive subject but the light was just awesome:













This is my favorite type of light - heavy clouds over the subject and the sun lighting it up from the side.


and one from two days ago:







No, I have not played with the colors, it was just a very orange sunset



Sep 03, 2010 at 12:29 PM
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p.156 #19 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Luka....in your last shot is that a lake/river/pool? Seems odd to have stairs going into anything other than a pool. If a lake/river, do people actually swim in there? BTW...beautiful colors, really like composition of #2


Sep 03, 2010 at 01:08 PM
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p.156 #20 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


A few serious and happy ZE faces. And, blasphemy, one non-Z.

































Sep 03, 2010 at 01:22 PM
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