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p.92 #1 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Light_pilgrim wrote:
Really? I do not remember when was the last time I said it...maybe in January. I wait for 35 LII...


Well, I think you complain it quite extensively from several thread/forum already Yes, get the 35L if you are shooting for living. No question about it.

I am the one of few people claim 35mm 1.4 is one of the most difficult focus manual lens out of ZF line earlier, (Using D700) I guess I don't know what I am talking about until I try it on with D800E

If C/Y is easy focus on 24M 5dx, I guess it must be a totally different lens.





Jul 24, 2012 at 06:29 PM
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p.92 #2 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread



Where do I complain? When i purchased the lens and was using with 5d mkii, I was super unhappy in the very beginning...nothing was sharp. After 2 weeks it turned out that I had an issue withthe lens as the guys in the store checked it and agreed with me. So....I got the new copy and it was good, very different. It was in january and since then i did not say a word simoly because i was almost never using this lens.
When i do use it, i can never get a sharp picture of what i photograph and typically these are people that are moving. I no longer use f/1.4' but rather 2,5 simply to give myself a chance to have eyes in focus.
So all in all......it is a nightmare for precise portrait focusing on a 5d mkiii, but you think what you want...
I will definitely get rid of it as soon as 35 L II is out....i can survive without 35 mm for now.....

zhangyue wrote:
Well, I think you complain it quite extensively from several thread/forum already Yes, get the 35L if you are shooting for living. No question about it.

I am the one of few people claim 35mm 1.4 is one of the most difficult focus manual lens out of ZF line earlier, (Using D700) I guess I don't know what I am talking about until I try it on with D800E

If C/Y is easy focus on 24M 5dx, I guess it must be a totally different lens.





Jul 24, 2012 at 11:16 PM
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p.92 #3 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


hm... this is why many professionals just smile, when they hear somebody talking about MF-lenses.

If you have trouble to take sharp pictures, you need AF

... but often, the AF-sensors in my 5DII are not at the desired position...



Jul 25, 2012 at 01:32 AM
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p.92 #4 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


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hm... this is why many professionals just smile, when they hear somebody talking about MF-lenses.



Can you elaborate a bit more? You leave a lot of room for various interpretations and I want to make sure I understand what you mean. Current DSLRs are not designed to work with MF lenses. The whole system has to be designed with this purpose in mind, otherwise you just come with multiple ideas how to find a workaround, but it always feels as if you are walking with a lot of sand in your shoes.



Jul 25, 2012 at 01:42 AM
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p.92 #5 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


zhangyue wrote:
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If C/Y is easy focus on 24M 5dx, I guess it must be a totally different lens.



Just in case this came from my comment. No, the lenses are very much alike. I said that the CY is easy to focus with a good matte on a 5D2. The 5D3 does not support changing mattes.



Jul 25, 2012 at 03:01 AM
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p.92 #6 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


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Just in case this came from my comment. No, the lenses are very much alike. I said that the CY is easy to focus with a good matte on a 5D2. The 5D3 does not support changing mattes.


It is also important to specify what is the subject of your focus and at what apertures.



Jul 25, 2012 at 03:25 AM
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p.92 #7 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


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It is also important to specify what is the subject of your focus and at what apertures.


Did you read post #12 on last page?, I'd be happy to elaborate.



Jul 25, 2012 at 03:36 AM
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p.92 #8 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


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Did you read post #12 on last page?, I'd be happy to elaborate.


Yeap, but not clear what do you photograph....a car of a portrait of a kid where you want eyes to be sharp.



Jul 25, 2012 at 07:13 AM
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p.92 #9 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Light_pilgrim wrote:
Yeap, but not clear what do you photograph....a car of a portrait of a kid where you want eyes to be sharp.


Eyes or eye, I often choose the latter if it tells you something. I do just the things you mention, cars would be an example of things furthest away, while a kid portrait would be the closest such as this a couple of pages back
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/839374/92#10721605

Now, if you do that, that's exactly why you should get a EG-S type of screen and none of those with split screens as it enables you to focus anywhere in the frame. Recomposition does not work with a thin focus plane such as the 35/1.4 (or 50/1.4 for that matter).



Jul 25, 2012 at 07:27 AM
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p.92 #10 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


I have 5D MKIII and EG-s doesn't exist for this camera, so not easy....

wfrank wrote:
Eyes or eye, I often choose the latter if it tells you something. I do just the things you mention, cars would be an example of things furthest away, while a kid portrait would be the closest such as this a couple of pages back
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/839374/92#10721605

Now, if you do that, that's exactly why you should get a EG-S and none of those with split screens as it enables you to focus anywhere in the frame. Recomposition does not work with a thin focus plane such as the 35/1.4 (or 50/1.4 for that matter).




Jul 25, 2012 at 07:30 AM
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p.92 #11 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


How odd, I am quoting myself. From last page.

wfrank wrote:
The 5D3 doesnt bring much new to the table if you're not using AF. Quite the opposite for not supporting fast mattes.


So you could get the trusted workhorse 5D2. And if not, there's plenty of mentioning in various threads about third party screens which should be of interest if you're serious into MF and do shoot live/moving subjects. For still life, you can take the Carsten route with LV and external screens w peaking etc.



Jul 25, 2012 at 07:37 AM
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p.92 #12 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


wfrank wrote:
How odd, I am quoting myself. From last page.

So you could get the trusted workhorse 5D2. And if not, there's plenty of mentioning in various threads about third party screens which should be of interest if you're serious into MF and do shoot live/moving subjects. For still life, you can take the Carsten route with LV and external screens w peaking etc.


Sorry for the alternative question, maybe even changing the subject slightly...and I want to reassure that there is not hidden agenda:-) What is the advantage of MF with modern DSLRs, such as MKIII for example? What is the advantage of MF to the level that you want to completely change your gear or best practices that working? Like I said, no hidden agenda:-)



Jul 25, 2012 at 07:50 AM
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p.92 #13 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Access to more interesting lenses, like the ZE/ZF line, Leica R lenses, and so on. This is more or less the reason for this forum, or at least, the original reason.


Jul 25, 2012 at 09:24 AM
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p.92 #14 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


wfrank wrote:
Eyes or eye, I often choose the latter if it tells you something. I do just the things you mention, cars would be an example of things furthest away, while a kid portrait would be the closest such as this a couple of pages back
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/839374/92#10721605

Now, if you do that, that's exactly why you should get a EG-S type of screen and none of those with split screens as it enables you to focus anywhere in the frame. Recomposition does not work with a thin focus plane such as the 35/1.4 (or 50/1.4 for that matter).


+1, actually this type of portrait is better with Manual lens and S-type screen. Nothing faster than see it in your eyes when shooting. AF will slow you down and focus accuracy won't be better than 'you' at this distance with side AF point.

Wfrank, with 35mm 1.4 ZF.2, at close distance, I don't have much trouble to nail the focus of eyes, but longer distance say 2M to 5M, I have a lot trouble nail focus if I shoot portrait, might be OK if shoot other urban subject. If C/Y can pop into frame, it is definitely better than ZF.



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Jul 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM
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p.92 #15 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Thanks!
Those were done really well, I thought.

carstenw wrote:
Buggz, check out this comparison between the SmallHD DP4 and the Zacuto EVF (be sure to watch all 3 parts). Although I would prefer a bigger screen, after seeing this, I am leaning towards the Zacuto. I guess I am adding this to my wish list now, as I am broke after buying the D800.







Jul 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM
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p.92 #16 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Don't forget to look in the new thread I created for external monitor usage. There is a surprise there...


Jul 25, 2012 at 12:36 PM
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Jul 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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p.92 #18 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


What the! That looks like half rat, half porcupine. What is that?


Jul 25, 2012 at 01:20 PM
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p.92 #19 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


carstenw wrote:
What the! That looks like half rat, half porcupine. What is that?


a prehensile-tailed porcupine. you can't really get perspective from the picture, but it is quite large (well the size of a normal porcupine).



Jul 25, 2012 at 01:22 PM
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p.92 #20 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Weren't you afraid that it was going to... prehensile you or something? Is that post the size of a telephone pole or something? I thought it was much smaller.


Jul 25, 2012 at 01:24 PM
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