ovredal73 wrote:
Wow, the Nikon is much cleaner at 2500!
I think we need to bear in mind that the D700 raw files are cooked, and contain no genuine small scale colour information. As such, a fair comparison can only be made once the M9 file has had optimal chroma NR at the full 18 Mpixel resolution. However, it's fairly easy to see that the D700 does see quite a lot deeper into the shadows, and tones emerging from shadow on the M9 have quite strong noise in luminance as well as chroma.
Looking at the gauze tape, the M9 is quite a lot more detailed than the D700 in the highlight areas, although it also suffers from moire around high contrast patterns and edges, as expected.
And by the way, I congratulate the tester on uprezzing the D700 files to M8 dimensions for comparison.
brainiac wrote:
I think we need to bear in mind that the D700 raw files are cooked, and contain no genuine small scale colour information. As such, a fair comparison can only be made once the M9 file has had optimal chroma NR at the full 18 Mpixel resolution. However, it's fairly easy to see that the D700 does see quite a lot deeper into the shadows, and tones emerging from shadow on the M9 have quite strong noise in luminance as well as chroma.
And by the way, I congratulate the tester on uprezzing the D700 files to M8 dimensions for comparison.
I am sure Ulrik has been listening to you while you have been trying to convince people to do it this way over the last year or two, Richard
brainiac wrote:
And by the way, I congratulate the tester on uprezzing the D700 files to M8 dimensions for comparison.
Me too, but perhaps it would be interesting to see the M9 files downrezzed to 12 mpix too? The noise from the D700 is smeared out somewhat when uprezzing.
sirimiri wrote:
His ad says the M9 is weathersealed against "rain and dust"? Plus the OLED panel on top? Why include that speculative JPG in his ad? *avoid*
Imagine the dreadful image they'd get, using interporalashun with and adapter to mount "lower-resolving medium format lenses" 'cause they're BIG and don't need to be as sharp for, uh...larger size formats? Bad matching of gears [sic]
I looked on craigslist today and there are a few M8's coming to the surface, BTW.
I've e-mailed this seller a few times with specific questions about the camera. I think it is legit, despite how flaky the ad looks.
For a US buyer the camera may or may not have a warranty - I haven't been able to get a straight answer - if it does it would likely require being sent back to Japan.
I'm not going to buy it, and certainly any buyer should proceed with caution, but the seller has answered enough of my question to convince me that they have the camera in hand.
ovredal73 wrote:
You are right That looks like a fraud. Didnt look carefully, just ebayed M9 to see if anybody got it for sale yet.
I made some custom profiles in noise ninja and came up with this, I bet you noise ninja/neat image etc experts could do a bit better, but I think I can say that I'm reasonably happy with the performance at 2500.
Nice tones!
