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p.5 #1Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I agree with John.
I find it difficult to get worked up about any crop camera now.
I also find it difficult to believe the 18 meg sensor will not need the finest lenses and have a very low diffraction limit.
If the 7D was full frame - different story!
David
I find it difficult to get worked up about any crop camera now.
I also find it difficult to believe the 18 meg sensor will not need the finest lenses and have a very low diffraction limit.
If the 7D was full frame - different story!
David
Sep 02, 2009 at 05:57 AM
p.5 #2Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Allan Bruce wrote:
Quite the in depth detail of information & some pretty detailed pixs. Used the 16-35/2.8 II, 200/2 IS, 85/1.2 II, & others, for testing purposes.
RGB.com Review & Images from 7DThere is a lot of detail in these images however the noise levels put me off. The lighthouse was taken at ISO 100 and the top of it (grey part) shows a lot of noise. This would have been my perfect camera if it wasnt for the noise levels; perhaps they should have just cleaned up the 50D's 15MP sensor.
The "Noise" you see at the lighthouse, is fog.
Rockies Photo wrote
Here is a link on Robgalbraith.com. He had a Beta 7D & the new lenses, and posted up some sized for web images + actual images you can download that are full resolution. I've already downloaded a few, and they are 13MB JPEGS Quite the in depth detail of information & some pretty detailed pixs. Used the 16-35/2.8 II, 200/2 IS, 85/1.2 II, & others, for testing purposes.RGB.com Review & Images from 7D
The "Noise" you see at the lighthouse, is fog.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:02 AM
p.5 #3Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I kinda agree... was really hoping for a cheaper full frame or at least a full frame with better AF.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:04 AM
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Kind people, why do you keep boring Mr.Power even more here in this little cave of escape from the *seven thing*.
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Sep 02, 2009 at 06:13 AM
p.5 #5Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Last I checked, full frame dSLRs were still more expensive than crops. The 7D, in my opinion, is an exciting evolution to a line of cameras that most people can afford.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:14 AM
p.5 #6Canon EOS 7D Master thread
An excellent camera is an excellent camera, whether crop or not. The 7D has a role as much as a 5D II does for example. Until I just sold my 5D, I had FF, 1.3x and 1.6x and probably will again.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:18 AM
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p.5 #7Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I love it, no it's not full frame, but it's also the last crop camera I'll ever need to buy, I've already pre-ordered mine and can't wait to get my mitts on it, I'll keep using it until it disintegrates.
Contrary to popular wisdom I don't think full frame is always the answer all of the time, I quite enjoy my high FPS crop bodies, and then when they drop an FF sensor into the 7D body, I'll buy one of those too, and have a camera for literally every situation I'll ever come across in my working life, then I can wean myself off this board
Contrary to popular wisdom I don't think full frame is always the answer all of the time, I quite enjoy my high FPS crop bodies, and then when they drop an FF sensor into the 7D body, I'll buy one of those too, and have a camera for literally every situation I'll ever come across in my working life, then I can wean myself off this board
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:18 AM
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Ariel Bravy wrote:
Let's copy over the 7D availability list.
B&H
Adorama
Amazon
Circuit City + 15% Cashback through Bing
TigerDirect + 15% Cashback through Bing + 4% Cashback with Bank of America card
Henry's (Canada)
Vistek (Canada)
Digitalwonderworld (Europe)
Robert's Imaging Call 1-800-726-5544 to preorder. Point of contact: Jody Grober
The Camera Store
You can pre-order at calumet as well:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/EC27100WL/?t=CM01&a=CM01
Let's copy over the 7D availability list.
B&H
Adorama
Amazon
Circuit City + 15% Cashback through Bing
TigerDirect + 15% Cashback through Bing + 4% Cashback with Bank of America card
Henry's (Canada)
Vistek (Canada)
Digitalwonderworld (Europe)
Robert's Imaging Call 1-800-726-5544 to preorder. Point of contact: Jody Grober
The Camera Store
You can pre-order at calumet as well:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/EC27100WL/?t=CM01&a=CM01
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:24 AM
p.5 #9Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Chris Beaumont wrote:
I love it, no it's not full frame, but it's also the last crop camera I'll ever need to buy, I've already pre-ordered mine and can't wait to get my mitts on it, I'll keep using it until it disintegrates.
Contrary to popular wisdom I don't think full frame is always the answer all of the time, I quite enjoy my high FPS crop bodies, and then when they drop an FF sensor into the 7D body, I'll buy one of those too, and have a camera for literally every situation I'll ever come across in my working life, then...Show more →
Although I haven't ordered one (yet), I agree with Chris here. I have a 1DMkII & a 1DsMkIII but sometimes I need better low light performance than they deliver. I often shoot in theatres with just the stage lighting so as long as the 7D delivers clean images at 1600 ISO that can be printed up to 18x24" then it will have a place in my PELI case until something better comes along. I have not seen any sample shots yet so I'll reserve judgement until I can test drive one but it certainly looks like it will do what I need.
I love it, no it's not full frame, but it's also the last crop camera I'll ever need to buy, I've already pre-ordered mine and can't wait to get my mitts on it, I'll keep using it until it disintegrates.
Contrary to popular wisdom I don't think full frame is always the answer all of the time, I quite enjoy my high FPS crop bodies, and then when they drop an FF sensor into the 7D body, I'll buy one of those too, and have a camera for literally every situation I'll ever come across in my working life, then...Show more →
Although I haven't ordered one (yet), I agree with Chris here. I have a 1DMkII & a 1DsMkIII but sometimes I need better low light performance than they deliver. I often shoot in theatres with just the stage lighting so as long as the 7D delivers clean images at 1600 ISO that can be printed up to 18x24" then it will have a place in my PELI case until something better comes along. I have not seen any sample shots yet so I'll reserve judgement until I can test drive one but it certainly looks like it will do what I need.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:29 AM
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p.5 #10Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Pierre - because I'm just such a nice bloke - here you go -
One ISO3200 sample here - http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239
Lots of samples on DPR including full size ones - http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page14.asp
One ISO3200 sample here - http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239
Lots of samples on DPR including full size ones - http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page14.asp
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:34 AM
p.5 #11Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Chris Beaumont wrote:
I love it, no it's not full frame, but it's also the last crop camera I'll ever need to buy, I've already pre-ordered mine and can't wait to get my mitts on it, I'll keep using it until it disintegrates.
Classic forum-fodder for the morning after. She looks good now (on paper!), but how's she gonna compare when the next hot thang rounds the corner with shapelier curves and buttons in all the right places?
I love it, no it's not full frame, but it's also the last crop camera I'll ever need to buy, I've already pre-ordered mine and can't wait to get my mitts on it, I'll keep using it until it disintegrates.
Classic forum-fodder for the morning after. She looks good now (on paper!), but how's she gonna compare when the next hot thang rounds the corner with shapelier curves and buttons in all the right places? Sep 02, 2009 at 06:34 AM
p.5 #12Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Icemanmanf wrote:
Last I checked, full frame dSLRs were still more expensive than crops. The 7D, in my opinion, is an exciting evolution to a line of cameras that most people can afford.
Good, that's your opinion, mine is that it's too many pixels in a small sensor and I like full frame, but it has some interesting features.
Just as well we can all have an opinion and none of us is right or wrong
Last I checked, full frame dSLRs were still more expensive than crops. The 7D, in my opinion, is an exciting evolution to a line of cameras that most people can afford.
Good, that's your opinion, mine is that it's too many pixels in a small sensor and I like full frame, but it has some interesting features.
Just as well we can all have an opinion and none of us is right or wrong
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:35 AM
p.5 #13Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Daan B wrote:
So, now Nikon should hurry up releasing their D700x, and there will -finally- be some room for pro-like AF in a pro-sumer FF body.
I've seen several speculations in Nikon forums -- and not just at dpreview! -- that there won't be a 24mp D700x ("If you want 24mp, shell out $8K," Nikon says) but instead a D700v that's a refreshed 12mp D700 with video. It's all rumor, of course, but an interesting change in expectations if true.
So, now Nikon should hurry up releasing their D700x, and there will -finally- be some room for pro-like AF in a pro-sumer FF body.
I've seen several speculations in Nikon forums -- and not just at dpreview! -- that there won't be a 24mp D700x ("If you want 24mp, shell out $8K," Nikon says) but instead a D700v that's a refreshed 12mp D700 with video. It's all rumor, of course, but an interesting change in expectations if true.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:41 AM
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p.5 #14Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Jeff wrote:
Classic forum-fodder for the morning after. She looks good now (on paper!), but how's she gonna compare when the next hot thang rounds the corner with shapelier curves and buttons in all the right places?
Has enough super-pixies to let me print a double page in my 12"x12" weddings albums at a reasonable DPI, shoots at ISO6400 native, providing the AF works as advertised......what more do I ever NEED? After this it's all incremental upgrades, specs have now got to the point where a camera does everything that I'll ever encounter doing my job under the conditions I work in.
For others the 7D may not do that, for me - it does! This'll likely be the last crop body I buy until it's no longer repairable.
Chris Beaumont wrote
I love it, no it's not full frame, but it's also the last crop camera I'll ever need to buy, I've already pre-ordered mine and can't wait to get my mitts on it, I'll keep using it until it disintegrates. Classic forum-fodder for the morning after. She looks good now (on paper!), but how's she gonna compare when the next hot thang rounds the corner with shapelier curves and buttons in all the right places? Has enough super-pixies to let me print a double page in my 12"x12" weddings albums at a reasonable DPI, shoots at ISO6400 native, providing the AF works as advertised......what more do I ever NEED? After this it's all incremental upgrades, specs have now got to the point where a camera does everything that I'll ever encounter doing my job under the conditions I work in.
For others the 7D may not do that, for me - it does! This'll likely be the last crop body I buy until it's no longer repairable.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:42 AM
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John Power wrote:
Oh wow. A new release. So what. Trade my 5D2 for a 7D? Will it shoot in complete darkness? I am already bored with the topic. Am I alone? A voice crying in the wilderness. A modern day Robison Crusoe. I can't even gather enough energy to open the 7D threads...
I agree. It's a boring camera, one with all of the marketing features but only a few of the most meaningful features. What I want to see is a Canon crop camera with the DR of a Fuji S5 Pro. I want to see a Canon crop camera that will let me shoot at f/13-16. I want to see a Canon crop camera with no AA filter. I want to see a Canon crop camera that's totally weather-sealed. And I want to see a Canon crop camera with the build and handling of a Nikon D300s. (I also want to see a full frame Canon [non 1-Series] with the same build.)
If you're still bored by this evening John, go get yourself a drink or two at the Ocean Grill.
- Steve
Oh wow. A new release. So what. Trade my 5D2 for a 7D? Will it shoot in complete darkness? I am already bored with the topic. Am I alone? A voice crying in the wilderness. A modern day Robison Crusoe. I can't even gather enough energy to open the 7D threads...
I agree. It's a boring camera, one with all of the marketing features but only a few of the most meaningful features. What I want to see is a Canon crop camera with the DR of a Fuji S5 Pro. I want to see a Canon crop camera that will let me shoot at f/13-16. I want to see a Canon crop camera with no AA filter. I want to see a Canon crop camera that's totally weather-sealed. And I want to see a Canon crop camera with the build and handling of a Nikon D300s. (I also want to see a full frame Canon [non 1-Series] with the same build.)
If you're still bored by this evening John, go get yourself a drink or two at the Ocean Grill.
- Steve
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:45 AM
p.5 #16Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I can't even gather enough energy to open the 7D threads...
three months from now, there would be problems in even finding one.
three months from now, there would be problems in even finding one.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:45 AM
p.5 #17Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Mike Farren wrote:
Looks really nice and at $1700 I would probably have splashed out and bought one. Alas Canon are charging the equivalent of $2740 here in the UK and that puts it out of my price range.
Screw Canon and their ridiculous European pricing.
Mike,
One of the irish online resellers issued a guide price of €1300 plus vat yesterday!!!
Gerry
Looks really nice and at $1700 I would probably have splashed out and bought one. Alas Canon are charging the equivalent of $2740 here in the UK and that puts it out of my price range.
Screw Canon and their ridiculous European pricing.
Mike,
One of the irish online resellers issued a guide price of €1300 plus vat yesterday!!!
Gerry
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:46 AM
p.5 #19Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Chris Beaumont wrote:
Pierre - because I'm just such a nice bloke - here you go -
One ISO3200 sample here - http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239
Lots of samples on DPR including full size ones - http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page14.asp
Thanks for that - you're such a nice bloke.
I've actually tried viewing those samples at RG but the download always times out. Maybe it's busy or maybe my line is just a bit pants.
I'd love to see some real samples, shot by a real bloke in real conditions so please post some when you have yours.
Cheers
Pierre.
Pierre - because I'm just such a nice bloke - here you go -
One ISO3200 sample here - http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239
Lots of samples on DPR including full size ones - http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page14.asp
Thanks for that - you're such a nice bloke.
I've actually tried viewing those samples at RG but the download always times out. Maybe it's busy or maybe my line is just a bit pants.
I'd love to see some real samples, shot by a real bloke in real conditions so please post some when you have yours.
Cheers
Pierre.
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:48 AM
p.5 #20Canon EOS 7D Master thread
"I have a 1DMkII & a 1DsMkIII but sometimes I need better low light performance than they deliver."
You're not expecting the 7D to have better low light performance than a 1-series camera are you?
You're not expecting the 7D to have better low light performance than a 1-series camera are you?
Sep 02, 2009 at 06:50 AM