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p.6 #1the d300s killer
I think the only real killer part is the price difference between the 7d and D300s. Canon can ride on the fact that their camera is "Newer" and not a rehash of old tech.
I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.
Saying that I bought my d300 killer 4 years ago. The 5D destroyed pretty much any consumer camera (too me). But man when the d300 came out it was impressive.
Someone mentioned earier about Canon finally catching up to the d300...remember people that Nikon had lots of catching up to do before hand. 5 years...but to their credit when they caught up they kicked a lot of ass. It's hard to say who is first...but thankfulyl Cmos is here to stay for now.
I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.
Saying that I bought my d300 killer 4 years ago. The 5D destroyed pretty much any consumer camera (too me). But man when the d300 came out it was impressive.
Someone mentioned earier about Canon finally catching up to the d300...remember people that Nikon had lots of catching up to do before hand. 5 years...but to their credit when they caught up they kicked a lot of ass. It's hard to say who is first...but thankfulyl Cmos is here to stay for now.
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:42 PM
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p.6 #2the d300s killer
I don't know, looking around at whats on the web, this 7D looks pretty darn good...
Ok, it may not AF as well, but then again, maybe it will.??
Ok, it may not AF as well, but then again, maybe it will.??
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:47 PM
p.6 #3the d300s killer
I'm a Nikon user and do not want to be unfair to Canon, so I will do some research between now and the first firmware update in a couple of weeks.
At that point I will post my informed opinion.
At that point I will post my informed opinion.
Sep 02, 2009 at 11:18 PM
p.6 #4the d300s killer
damn I got more responses here on the Dark side than where I come from... 
Sep 02, 2009 at 11:24 PM
p.6 #5the d300s killer
After all your new discussion, the 7D is just a competitor
"If the AF, 100% view finder etc.... is tested and proven to be accurate"
How thrilling, But what if it doesn't work?
Will there be a party in the Dark Side members?
So the D700 is the real D300s Killer right?
"If the AF, 100% view finder etc.... is tested and proven to be accurate"
How thrilling, But what if it doesn't work?
Will there be a party in the Dark Side members?
So the D700 is the real D300s Killer right?
Sep 02, 2009 at 11:35 PM
p.6 #6the d300s killer
Trent, how did you buy your D300 two years before it was released?
Sep 02, 2009 at 11:36 PM
p.6 #9the d300s killer
It would be a surprise to me if the D300s AF doesn't run rings around this new 7D AF for real action applications.
That to me is more important than an additional 6 mp.
That to me is more important than an additional 6 mp.
Sep 03, 2009 at 03:21 AM
p.6 #10the d300s killer
luminosity wrote:
Trent, how did you buy your D300 two years before it was released?
He was a beta tester..
Trent, how did you buy your D300 two years before it was released?
He was a beta tester..
Sep 03, 2009 at 04:54 AM
p.6 #11the d300s killer
trenchmonkey wrote:
Hey, what er ya doin' over HERE 
Not bad for a 500 but I think my (cough) 300's details
and colors spank ya SOOC MZ 
Mr Zoom wrote:
I'm over here spanking the monkey, what else would I be doing
The only difference tween yours and min was white balance and exposure - that and the 1D Mark III has better dynamic range as illustrated by the lack of blown highlights in my version
Here's a reprocess with the sickly underexposed orange cast your Nikon shot illustrates ever so effectively. I really had to work this puppy over to get it even close...
It's called sunrise
Hey, what er ya doin' over HERE
Not bad for a 500 but I think my (cough) 300's detailsand colors spank ya SOOC M
Z Mr Zoom wrote:
I'm over here spanking the monkey, what else would I be doing
The only difference tween yours and min was white balance and exposure - that and the 1D Mark III has better dynamic range as illustrated by the lack of blown highlights in my version
Here's a reprocess with the sickly underexposed orange cast your Nikon shot illustrates ever so effectively. I really had to work this puppy over to get it even close...
It's called sunrise
Sep 03, 2009 at 08:15 AM
p.6 #12the d300s killer
trentchau wrote:
I think the only real killer part is the price difference between the 7d and D300s. Canon can ride on the fact that their camera is "Newer" and not a rehash of old tech.
I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.
But what you fail point out is the fact that Nikon is calling the camera a D300s, not a D400. They did the same with the D2Hs and the D2Xs. They are enhancements made to existing cameras. They are not trying to pawn them off as new models like Canon did going from the 20D to the 30D.
I think the only real killer part is the price difference between the 7d and D300s. Canon can ride on the fact that their camera is "Newer" and not a rehash of old tech.
I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.
But what you fail point out is the fact that Nikon is calling the camera a D300s, not a D400. They did the same with the D2Hs and the D2Xs. They are enhancements made to existing cameras. They are not trying to pawn them off as new models like Canon did going from the 20D to the 30D.
Sep 03, 2009 at 08:59 AM
p.6 #13the d300s killer
One thing I've become very aware of. Is contrary to what I thought a while ago, there is clearly NOT a move on the part of the Nikon and Canon, to move towards FF sensors. Clearly nearly ALL of lens development on both sides is towards the cropped sensor lenses, as is the 3rd party development. This pi$$es me off to no end as I want to see far more releases of FF lenses. But clearly I am wrong on my understanding of where the industry would go. Seems they are very firmly encamped with DX or cropped sensor sizes. I am however glad to see Panasonic doing so much more with their technologies. Those little Lumix cams they are developing kick a$$ for their size.
Sep 03, 2009 at 09:06 AM
p.6 #14the d300s killer
traveler wrote:
One thing I've become very aware of. Is contrary to what I thought a while ago, there is clearly NOT a move on the part of the Nikon and Canon, to move towards FF sensors. Clearly nearly ALL of lens development on both sides is towards the cropped sensor lenses, as is the 3rd party development. This pi$$es me off to no end as I want to see far more releases of FF lenses. But clearly I am wrong on my understanding of where the industry would go. Seems they are very firmly encamped with DX or cropped sensor sizes....Show more →
I have the newly announced GF1 on my shopping list and am already a happy LX-3 user.
One thing I've become very aware of. Is contrary to what I thought a while ago, there is clearly NOT a move on the part of the Nikon and Canon, to move towards FF sensors. Clearly nearly ALL of lens development on both sides is towards the cropped sensor lenses, as is the 3rd party development. This pi$$es me off to no end as I want to see far more releases of FF lenses. But clearly I am wrong on my understanding of where the industry would go. Seems they are very firmly encamped with DX or cropped sensor sizes....Show more →
I have the newly announced GF1 on my shopping list and am already a happy LX-3 user.
Sep 03, 2009 at 09:19 AM
p.6 #15the d300s killer
I don't know - I like the looks of that camera. If it was a Nikon, I'd consider it. For my Canon buddies, if this one plays out well I'd recommend it (like to my brother and best friend.) Nikon needed a better competitor to the D300, and maybe this will be it. It will keep Nikon's design department advancing the state of the art for Nikon cameras.
Not that I need another camera any time soon!
David
Not that I need another camera any time soon!
David
Sep 03, 2009 at 10:20 AM
p.6 #16the d300s killer
Dunno, I'd take dual cards over a questionable extra 5 megapixels myself but I'm a wedding shooter...
Sep 03, 2009 at 12:16 PM
p.6 #17the d300s killer
Beni wrote:
Dunno, I'd take dual cards over a questionable extra 5 megapixels myself but I'm a wedding shooter...
+1 My feelings exactly. Redundancy =
Dunno, I'd take dual cards over a questionable extra 5 megapixels myself but I'm a wedding shooter...
+1 My feelings exactly. Redundancy =
Sep 03, 2009 at 12:56 PM
p.6 #18the d300s killer
gman1339 wrote:
I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.But what you fail point out is the fact that Nikon is calling the camera a D300s, not a D400. They did the same with the D2Hs and the D2Xs. They are enhancements made to existing cameras. They are not trying to pawn them off as new models like Canon did going from the 20D to the 30D.
Heh true, but I don't think it's making my numerous amount of friends who have a d300 and now see the d300s and 7d come out feel better. Yes it doesn't make sense, but people are a little antsy right now.
I know, lets repeate the mantra...it's not the gear but the photographer....but it's about time for the successor of the d300 to come out. The D300s should of been released last year along with the d90.
trentchau wrote
I think the only real killer part is the price difference between the 7d and D300s. Canon can ride on the fact that their camera is "Newer" and not a rehash of old tech.I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.
Heh true, but I don't think it's making my numerous amount of friends who have a d300 and now see the d300s and 7d come out feel better. Yes it doesn't make sense, but people are a little antsy right now.
I know, lets repeate the mantra...it's not the gear but the photographer....but it's about time for the successor of the d300 to come out. The D300s should of been released last year along with the d90.
Sep 03, 2009 at 01:27 PM
p.6 #19the d300s killer
Troll alert ON
Now that Canon have their own version of the d300 does that mean Nikon are going to bring out their missing fast AF wide primes? Like a 24/28/35mm f1.4 AF?
Sorry just couldn't resist.
Troll alert OFF
Now that Canon have their own version of the d300 does that mean Nikon are going to bring out their missing fast AF wide primes? Like a 24/28/35mm f1.4 AF?
Sorry just couldn't resist.
Troll alert OFF
Sep 03, 2009 at 01:59 PM
p.6 #20the d300s killer
trentchau wrote:
I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.But what you fail point out is the fact that Nikon is calling the camera a D300s, not a D400. They did the same with the D2Hs and the D2Xs. They are enhancements made to existing cameras. They are not trying to pawn them off as new models like Canon did going from the 20D to the 30D. Heh true, but I don't think it's making my numerous amount of friends who have a d300 and now see the d300s and 7d come out feel better. Yes it doesn't make sense, but people are a little antsy right now.
I know, lets repeate the mantra...it's not the gear but the photographer....but it's about time for the successor of the d300 to come out. The D300s should of been released last year along with the d90.
Is there really a need for a D400 from Nikon this year? I don't see it. They know 12MP is an excellent balance between resolution and image quality on a crop sensor. I heard all kinds of people saying that a Canon 40D was just as good of a camera as the D300 when the D300 was introduced. The 40D and D300 were both announced in August of 2007. Were is the 40D today? B&H says it's discontinued. It's not on the Canon USA website as a current camera. How has the 50D done with sales? The 7D is a reaction to the success of the D300. It's a 60D that Canon had to call something else to save face. How would it look if they had discontinued both the 40D and the 50D in the lifespan of the D300?
gman1339 wrote
trentchau wrote
I think the only real killer part is the price difference between the 7d and D300s. Canon can ride on the fact that their camera is "Newer" and not a rehash of old tech.I'm only saying this because Canon did that before with the 20d to 30d, and while the 30d was an absolutely stunner of a camera people felt cheated by it. I wouldn't be surprise if some nikonian's feel the same way about the d300s.
I know, lets repeate the mantra...it's not the gear but the photographer....but it's about time for the successor of the d300 to come out. The D300s should of been released last year along with the d90.
Is there really a need for a D400 from Nikon this year? I don't see it. They know 12MP is an excellent balance between resolution and image quality on a crop sensor. I heard all kinds of people saying that a Canon 40D was just as good of a camera as the D300 when the D300 was introduced. The 40D and D300 were both announced in August of 2007. Were is the 40D today? B&H says it's discontinued. It's not on the Canon USA website as a current camera. How has the 50D done with sales? The 7D is a reaction to the success of the D300. It's a 60D that Canon had to call something else to save face. How would it look if they had discontinued both the 40D and the 50D in the lifespan of the D300?
Sep 03, 2009 at 02:02 PM