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p.53 #1Canon 7D
Paolo Dolina wrote:
This makes this the 4th 1.6x crop body in the Canon product line? Can the economy accomodate yet another (now expensive) crop body?
Nikon has the D3000, D5000, D90, D60, D300 and D300s.
Even if the 7D runs alongside the 50D, Canon will only have five 1.6 crop bodies - 1000D, 450D, 500D, 50D and 7D.
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This makes this the 4th 1.6x crop body in the Canon product line? Can the economy accomodate yet another (now expensive) crop body?
Nikon has the D3000, D5000, D90, D60, D300 and D300s.
Even if the 7D runs alongside the 50D, Canon will only have five 1.6 crop bodies - 1000D, 450D, 500D, 50D and 7D.
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Aug 29, 2009 at 03:09 PM
p.53 #2Canon 7D
Try a silver-ringed EFs60mm f/2.8 Macro and see if it qualifies as a 'crappy' lens.
It's sharper than many of my red-ringed lenses.
It's sharper than many of my red-ringed lenses.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:10 PM
p.53 #3Canon 7D
vpk24_astro wrote:
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'.
I believe all EF-S lenses have the silver ring: it's what distinguishes them visually from EF lenses (and there are very good EF-S lenses...).
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'.
I believe all EF-S lenses have the silver ring: it's what distinguishes them visually from EF lenses (and there are very good EF-S lenses...).
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:10 PM
p.53 #4Canon 7D
Canon usually charge a premium for "Luxury" and now they are giving it away for free to EF-S customers? 
Who said Canon would never offer L EF-S lenses? 
Who said Canon would never offer L EF-S lenses? Aug 29, 2009 at 03:11 PM
p.53 #5Canon 7D
Navyblue wrote:
If I were Canon I'd put a doggie smile shutter, after all there are a lot more people who take pictures of their dog than bird shooters.
True!
Or maybe Cutesie Ickle Fuzzeh Wuzzeh Kitteh Detection AF - they'd sell millions of 'em!
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If I were Canon I'd put a doggie smile shutter, after all there are a lot more people who take pictures of their dog than bird shooters.
True!
Or maybe Cutesie Ickle Fuzzeh Wuzzeh Kitteh Detection AF - they'd sell millions of 'em!
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Aug 29, 2009 at 03:14 PM
p.53 #6Canon 7D
garyvot wrote:
I believe all EF-S lenses have the silver ring: it's what distinguishes them visually from EF lenses (and there are very good EF-S lenses...).
Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.
vpk24_astro wrote
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'.Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:14 PM
p.53 #7Canon 7D
EOS20 wrote:
Maybe they should try including a lens hood as a "Hint of luxury" instead of adding crappy silver rings to their lenses!
Totally agreed! I have seen many people who paid hundreds of dollars for their EF-S lenses and cheap out on the hood, which is really needed in many sunny situations and protection. It cost Canon probably a few bucks to included it. (At least give them out for 10-22 and 17-55 IS and some higher priced non-L primes) However, Canon still decided to charge $50 for it and ended up most people do without it. I know we can get one on ebay for cheap, but hey it improve image quality in many situations, so why put all this nice coatings and stuffs on the glasses and not including the cheapest thing as a package. Nikon includes a hood with most of their lenses except the cheapest line of lenses.
vpk24_astro wrote
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'. Totally agreed! I have seen many people who paid hundreds of dollars for their EF-S lenses and cheap out on the hood, which is really needed in many sunny situations and protection. It cost Canon probably a few bucks to included it. (At least give them out for 10-22 and 17-55 IS and some higher priced non-L primes) However, Canon still decided to charge $50 for it and ended up most people do without it. I know we can get one on ebay for cheap, but hey it improve image quality in many situations, so why put all this nice coatings and stuffs on the glasses and not including the cheapest thing as a package. Nikon includes a hood with most of their lenses except the cheapest line of lenses.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:21 PM
p.53 #8Canon 7D
garyvot wrote:
I believe all EF-S lenses have the silver ring: it's what distinguishes them visually from EF lenses (and there are very good EF-S lenses...).
Gold is reserved for Tamron. Sigma stole the red ring from Canon.
vpk24_astro wrote
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'.Gold is reserved for Tamron. Sigma stole the red ring from Canon.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:23 PM
p.53 #9Canon 7D
EOS20 wrote:
Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.
I thought:
silver ring = EF-S
gold ring = EF
red ring = EF L
Sadly, only the red ring lenses are supplied with a hood.
Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.
I thought:
silver ring = EF-S
gold ring = EF
red ring = EF L
Sadly, only the red ring lenses are supplied with a hood.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:24 PM
p.53 #11Canon 7D
EOS20 wrote:
I believe all EF-S lenses have the silver ring: it's what distinguishes them visually from EF lenses (and there are very good EF-S lenses...).Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.
Yea, that puzzled me too. Why show a brand new prosumer camera with a silver ring lens? Maybe silver is the new red? Unlikely. By the way, both new EF-S lenses (15-85 and 18-135) appear to be silver ring lenses. Atleast they have metal mounts!
There is no color designation for mounts - the colors only designate quality. Red is best, gold OK and silver to be avoided. Green is dead.
garyvot wrote
vpk24_astro wrote
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'.Yea, that puzzled me too. Why show a brand new prosumer camera with a silver ring lens? Maybe silver is the new red? Unlikely. By the way, both new EF-S lenses (15-85 and 18-135) appear to be silver ring lenses. Atleast they have metal mounts!
There is no color designation for mounts - the colors only designate quality. Red is best, gold OK and silver to be avoided. Green is dead.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:27 PM
p.53 #12Canon 7D
vpk24_astro wrote:
There is no color designation for mounts - the colors only designate quality. Red is best, gold OK and silver to be avoided. Green is dead.
I'm not sure this is true any longer, at least when it comes to EF-S lenses. Are there any gold ring EF-S mount lenses? There aren't red ring ones (EF-S L's).
There is no color designation for mounts - the colors only designate quality. Red is best, gold OK and silver to be avoided. Green is dead.
I'm not sure this is true any longer, at least when it comes to EF-S lenses. Are there any gold ring EF-S mount lenses? There aren't red ring ones (EF-S L's).
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:35 PM
p.53 #13Canon 7D
keithreeder wrote:
Uuummm...
I've seen a couple more translations, both of which indicate face detection AF.
That should please some folk, right?
Wonder if it can recognise bird faces too?
5D2 has that already.
Uuummm...
I've seen a couple more translations, both of which indicate face detection AF.
That should please some folk, right?
Wonder if it can recognise bird faces too?
5D2 has that already.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:37 PM
p.53 #14Canon 7D
globalkiwi wrote:
I thought:
silver ring = EF-S
gold ring = EF
red ring = EF L
Sadly, only the red ring lenses are supplied with a hood.
Silver Ring = Budget consumer lens line. - Cheap build, cheap optics, budget pricing.
Gold Ring = Standard lens line. - Better build quality, decent optics.
Green Ring = Diffractive Optics lens line. - Similar to a L lens, but uses Diffractive optics.
Red Ring = L "Luxury" lens line. - Canon's flagship lens line, Good optics, Empty wallets, angry partners.
EOS20 wrote
Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.silver ring = EF-S
gold ring = EF
red ring = EF L
Sadly, only the red ring lenses are supplied with a hood.
Silver Ring = Budget consumer lens line. - Cheap build, cheap optics, budget pricing.
Gold Ring = Standard lens line. - Better build quality, decent optics.
Green Ring = Diffractive Optics lens line. - Similar to a L lens, but uses Diffractive optics.
Red Ring = L "Luxury" lens line. - Canon's flagship lens line, Good optics, Empty wallets, angry partners.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:38 PM
p.53 #15Canon 7D
Paolo Dolina wrote:
I'm a bit biased though what I really want to see is a 1D3 replacement not "yet another 1.6x crop body". This makes this the 4th 1.6x crop body in the Canon product line? Can the economy accomodate yet another (now expensive) crop body?
when the 40D and 50D came out everyone whined that they were not D300 tier bodies and now that canon does this they whine because they did it
I'm a bit biased though what I really want to see is a 1D3 replacement not "yet another 1.6x crop body". This makes this the 4th 1.6x crop body in the Canon product line? Can the economy accomodate yet another (now expensive) crop body?
when the 40D and 50D came out everyone whined that they were not D300 tier bodies and now that canon does this they whine because they did it
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:39 PM
p.53 #16Canon 7D
EOS20 wrote:
Maybe they should try including a lens hood as a "Hint of luxury" instead of adding crappy silver rings to their lenses!
vpk24_astro wrote
The EF-S lenses have that silver 'this is a crappy lens' ring on them that Canon claims 'adds a hint of luxury'. Aug 29, 2009 at 03:39 PM
p.53 #17Canon 7D
I believe that the gold ring is for USM, the red for L, the green is for DO, and I guess white is for the "kit" lens.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:40 PM
p.53 #18Canon 7D
globalkiwi wrote:
I'm not sure this is true any longer, at least when it comes to EF-S lenses. Are there any gold ring EF-S mount lenses? There aren't red ring ones (EF-S L's).
There are currently 4 gold ring EF-S lenses:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-10-22mm-f-3.5-4.5-USM-Lens-Review.aspx
vpk24_astro wrote
There is no color designation for mounts - the colors only designate quality. Red is best, gold OK and silver to be avoided. Green is dead.There are currently 4 gold ring EF-S lenses:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-10-22mm-f-3.5-4.5-USM-Lens-Review.aspx
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:40 PM
p.53 #19Canon 7D
Liscia wrote:
Try a silver-ringed EFs60mm f/2.8 Macro and see if it qualifies as a 'crappy' lens.
It's sharper than many of my red-ringed lenses.
just about as well built too
that said there was a period around maybe mid-90's to early 2000's where Canon put about a bunch of shamefully horrific silver ring lenses.
Try a silver-ringed EFs60mm f/2.8 Macro and see if it qualifies as a 'crappy' lens.
It's sharper than many of my red-ringed lenses.
just about as well built too
that said there was a period around maybe mid-90's to early 2000's where Canon put about a bunch of shamefully horrific silver ring lenses.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:41 PM
p.53 #20Canon 7D
globalkiwi wrote:
I thought:
silver ring = EF-S
gold ring = EF
red ring = EF L
Sadly, only the red ring lenses are supplied with a hood.
gold ring = USM (That's why it is on the 10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS)
EF lenses without USM don't have a ring at all.
Still strange with silver ring on the 15-85 IS USM.
EOS20 wrote
Canon have the "Gold ring" EF-S lenses (10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS) which is usually associated with Canon's mid range lens line, while the Silver ring lenses are usually associated with the cheap entry level lens line. Strange that the new 15-85 IS has the silver ring rather then the gold ring.silver ring = EF-S
gold ring = EF
red ring = EF L
Sadly, only the red ring lenses are supplied with a hood.
gold ring = USM (That's why it is on the 10-22, 60 macro, 17-85 IS, 17-55 IS)
EF lenses without USM don't have a ring at all.
Still strange with silver ring on the 15-85 IS USM.
Aug 29, 2009 at 03:42 PM