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Archive 2009Canon 7D
p.20 #1Canon 7D
Daniel Heineck wrote:
CMOS = Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor
CCD = Charge Coupled Device
I didn't mean in English
CMOS = Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor
CCD = Charge Coupled Device
I didn't mean in English
Aug 21, 2009 at 02:46 PM
p.20 #2Canon 7D
it's unlikely but... CCD (LCD typo) viewfinder?
100% plus on-board crop modes... that would be awesome with major possibilities, it will happen eventually.
100% plus on-board crop modes... that would be awesome with major possibilities, it will happen eventually.
Aug 21, 2009 at 02:47 PM
p.20 #3Canon 7D
. Canon loves (the small number of) loyal minions defending them.think back again and look up what competition shipped at the 40D time.
the fact you mentioned the 30D (ie. 20D mkII) is really absurd
keithreeder wrote:
Glen_C wrote
the... 40D... shows you they are stuck on auto-pilot, resting on their laurels.The 40D is different in every functional respect to the 30D - they share no end-result critical components whatsoever, with everything in the 40D being new and (IMHO) clearly improved.
If that's "auto-pilot* and "resting on their laurels" keep it coming.
Aug 21, 2009 at 02:52 PM
p.20 #4Canon 7D
Sean Mills wrote:
CCD = Charge Coupled DeviceI didn't mean in English
Pretty much every technical/academic paper I have read coming out of western Europe, those two acronyms are left wholly in English. Actually, anywhere in the world.
Just looks like a boo-boo on their behalf.
Daniel Heineck wrote
CMOS = Complimentary Metal Oxide SemiconductorCCD = Charge Coupled Device
Pretty much every technical/academic paper I have read coming out of western Europe, those two acronyms are left wholly in English. Actually, anywhere in the world.
Just looks like a boo-boo on their behalf.
Aug 21, 2009 at 02:59 PM
p.20 #6Canon 7D
Pretty much every technical/academic paper I have read coming out of western Europe, those two acronyms are left wholly in English. Actually, anywhere in the world.
Daniel you maybe right and I do not want to create polemic. I belong to another product line (PC, notebook and desktop) which is manage under the same legal requirement of the electronic industry... in all European countries, some LA countries and even in Canada, it is mandatory by law that all contents are translated including acronyms...You can reach some funny things that are even not used by anyone in the country (such as CD-RW in French translated by CDR Compact Disque Re-inscriptible and CD-R by CDI! or Ecran a Cristaux Liquides ECL for LCD)
Now that said, I have to agree with your comment I am not aware of any mix usage of these 2 acronyms: this add looks weird...But Sean comment was pretty thoughtful IMO
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Daniel you maybe right and I do not want to create polemic. I belong to another product line (PC, notebook and desktop) which is manage under the same legal requirement of the electronic industry... in all European countries, some LA countries and even in Canada, it is mandatory by law that all contents are translated including acronyms...You can reach some funny things that are even not used by anyone in the country (such as CD-RW in French translated by CDR Compact Disque Re-inscriptible and CD-R by CDI! or Ecran a Cristaux Liquides ECL for LCD)
Now that said, I have to agree with your comment I am not aware of any mix usage of these 2 acronyms: this add looks weird...But Sean comment was pretty thoughtful IMO
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Aug 21, 2009 at 03:42 PM
p.20 #7Canon 7D
Tom_W wrote:
From upcdatabase.com:
-12mp
-5fps,Up to 21 RAW files
-dust removing system
-15-point TTL CMOS sensor
-Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster
-96% frame coverage
-Magnification: 0.71x
-3.0 " 640×480 TFT LCD (920,000 pixels)
-ISO 50-3200 extended to 12800 and 25600
-DIGIC III, 14-bit
-Canon EF lens mount (not EF-S)
-Live View Mode
-The Body Is Much Identical to 5D, Could Share The Handgrip
-Surprisingly cheap, US: $ 1,899If I had to pick among the contenders, I'd guess that this one would be it. Full Frame for all!
100% not
it will be (the 7D), read it and know:
18MP
8fps
better AF
Digic V
RalphJ wrote
...From upcdatabase.com:
-12mp
-5fps,Up to 21 RAW files
-dust removing system
-15-point TTL CMOS sensor
-Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster
-96% frame coverage
-Magnification: 0.71x
-3.0 " 640×480 TFT LCD (920,000 pixels)
-ISO 50-3200 extended to 12800 and 25600
-DIGIC III, 14-bit
-Canon EF lens mount (not EF-S)
-Live View Mode
-The Body Is Much Identical to 5D, Could Share The Handgrip
-Surprisingly cheap, US: $ 1,899
100% not
it will be (the 7D), read it and know:
18MP
8fps
better AF
Digic V
Aug 21, 2009 at 03:45 PM
p.20 #8Canon 7D
Fred Relaix wrote:
Is this the 60D or the 7D? At least a spanish store advertizing for a coming xxD-looking Canon camera shooting at 8.5fps
http://www.nivell10.com/images/fotos/5/c45.jpg
It's a picture of a 20D and 17-85 IS. I put it though Photoshop and increased the levels and you can clearly see it's a 20D.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3843934750_2cf3cf073e_o.jpg
Is this the 60D or the 7D? At least a spanish store advertizing for a coming xxD-looking Canon camera shooting at 8.5fps
http://www.nivell10.com/images/fotos/5/c45.jpg
It's a picture of a 20D and 17-85 IS. I put it though Photoshop and increased the levels and you can clearly see it's a 20D.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3843934750_2cf3cf073e_o.jpg
Aug 21, 2009 at 03:54 PM
p.20 #9Canon 7D
skibum5 wrote:
it will be (the 7D), read it and know:
18MP
8fps
better AF
Digic V
If that were to be true (not saying it's not), then what would canon do with the 1DMIV?
I mean, 7D with 18MP at 8fps?
With better AF on top?
That doesn't leave much margin to get improved on for the 1DMIV.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope it's true...
it will be (the 7D), read it and know:
18MP
8fps
better AF
Digic V
If that were to be true (not saying it's not), then what would canon do with the 1DMIV?
I mean, 7D with 18MP at 8fps?
With better AF on top?
That doesn't leave much margin to get improved on for the 1DMIV.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope it's true...
Aug 21, 2009 at 04:22 PM
p.20 #11Canon 7D
That's funny; my 20D has a metal hot shoe. If you're referring to a black-painted hot shoe, yes the 20D has that. Can you tell the camera in the photo doesn't?
Aug 21, 2009 at 05:39 PM
p.20 #12Canon 7D
Napalm wrote:
The badge is in a very odd place. Interesting.
No...
The badge is in a very odd place. Interesting.
No...
Aug 21, 2009 at 06:20 PM
p.20 #13Canon 7D
Glen_C wrote:
. Canon loves (the small number of) loyal minions defending them.
Not a loyal minion, just tired of all the Canon bashing.
Whinging Canon owners like you are worse than those Nikon trolls who come in here to beat on a dead horse. Noone force you to stay with Canon so if you're really unhappy with Canon's offering, just change system already. Why are you risking your health stressing out over Canon? If you can't afford it then all I can say is "beggars can't be choosers".
. Canon loves (the small number of) loyal minions defending them.Not a loyal minion, just tired of all the Canon bashing.
Whinging Canon owners like you are worse than those Nikon trolls who come in here to beat on a dead horse. Noone force you to stay with Canon so if you're really unhappy with Canon's offering, just change system already. Why are you risking your health stressing out over Canon? If you can't afford it then all I can say is "beggars can't be choosers".
Aug 21, 2009 at 06:58 PM
p.20 #14Canon 7D
Sean Mills wrote:
CCD = Charge Coupled DeviceI didn't mean in English
Hi! I am Spanish and we do say CMOS and CCD.
(and we do mean CMOS and CCD
!!!)
So yes, that seems to be a fake or a big mistake.
Daniel Heineck wrote
CMOS = Complimentary Metal Oxide SemiconductorCCD = Charge Coupled Device
Hi! I am Spanish and we do say CMOS and CCD.
(and we do mean CMOS and CCD
!!!)So yes, that seems to be a fake or a big mistake.
Aug 21, 2009 at 07:22 PM
p.20 #15Canon 7D
Actually money forces me to stay with Canon...lack of money.
Aug 21, 2009 at 07:33 PM
p.20 #16Canon 7D
I shoot Canon because I prefer their products, though I've found plenty to criticize over the years. Having owned other brands, I can tell you there is nothing magical in the competition. Each system has strengths (and weaknesses).
Have no idea what the "7D" will be (if there is such a camera). I do know that something new will come eventually, and that a bunch of folks will find things to complain about.
Have no idea what the "7D" will be (if there is such a camera). I do know that something new will come eventually, and that a bunch of folks will find things to complain about.
Aug 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM
p.20 #17Canon 7D
Concerning the 5DII:
RDKirk wrote: Sales are exceeding manufacturing capacity.
Cineski wrote: Do you not agree that Canon tends to play this a bit more than other manufacturers? Canon releases gear, and then they don't manufacture to demand. They've actually brought the numbers down, to the point that even if demand is less, there's still a perceived demand because they simply aren't cranking the gear out fast enough.
RDKirk wrote:No, I don't agree, not at all. For every manufacturer, especially for Canon and Nikon, there is rather short supply in the first months when demand seems to be frantic … then demand levels off to...Show more →
www.nowinstock.net reports present availability for cameras. I don't need Canon 5DII sales numbers to realize that 5DII monthly sales in August 2009 are vastly lower than they were in December 2008, when it was first introduced. In December 2008, on average, two to three of the major retailers out of ten had 5DII in stock. Today as I write this, zero of 10 major retailers have 5DII in stock.
RDKirk, do you still have this fantasy that in August 2009, Canon cannot meet the astounding demand for 5DII?
I think, along with Cineski, that Canon has made a clear and conscious decision to keep the 5DII in perpetual short supply, NO MATTER HOW LOW THE DEMAND IS. It appears to be their idea of marketing, of continuing the illusion of excessive high demand.
RDKirk wrote: Sales are exceeding manufacturing capacity.
Cineski wrote: Do you not agree that Canon tends to play this a bit more than other manufacturers? Canon releases gear, and then they don't manufacture to demand. They've actually brought the numbers down, to the point that even if demand is less, there's still a perceived demand because they simply aren't cranking the gear out fast enough.
RDKirk wrote:No, I don't agree, not at all. For every manufacturer, especially for Canon and Nikon, there is rather short supply in the first months when demand seems to be frantic … then demand levels off to...Show more →
www.nowinstock.net reports present availability for cameras. I don't need Canon 5DII sales numbers to realize that 5DII monthly sales in August 2009 are vastly lower than they were in December 2008, when it was first introduced. In December 2008, on average, two to three of the major retailers out of ten had 5DII in stock. Today as I write this, zero of 10 major retailers have 5DII in stock.
RDKirk, do you still have this fantasy that in August 2009, Canon cannot meet the astounding demand for 5DII?
I think, along with Cineski, that Canon has made a clear and conscious decision to keep the 5DII in perpetual short supply, NO MATTER HOW LOW THE DEMAND IS. It appears to be their idea of marketing, of continuing the illusion of excessive high demand.
Aug 21, 2009 at 11:39 PM
p.20 #18Canon 7D
When reporting financial results at the end of July, Canon stated despite contractions in many parts of their business that the 5DII was selling well. Why theorize that a high quality, ethical company like Canon is executing some conspiracy? Maybe it is just a different business climate where product supply is just being carefully managed at all levels in the supply chain. The credit that retailers need to carry inventory has not been as available during this period. There are many sensible explanations.
Aug 22, 2009 at 12:05 AM
p.20 #19Canon 7D
UCSB wrote:
There are many sensible explanations.
Sensible!
There are many sensible explanations.
Sensible!
Aug 22, 2009 at 12:13 AM
p.20 #20Canon 7D
The explanation for Canon gear shortages offered on the lensrentals.com
website seems plausible to me:
http://www.lensrentals.com/news/2009.04.24/state-of-the-slr-industry-2009
I do think that Canon or perhaps Canon USA specifically, may be shifting inventory
to smaller dealers to weaken the retail power of the megastores such as B&H.
One might wonder why Canon doesn't raise prices even more, since they can
evidently sell all of what they make at current prices, with shortages at the larger
retailers. But assuming they don't want to do that for whatever reason, I can see
why they might take this chance to starve the retailers that exercise some degree
of pricing power over them and instead feed the smaller guys who won't be able
to bargain for lower wholesale prices when production picks up in the future.
I'm just speculating, though.
website seems plausible to me:
http://www.lensrentals.com/news/2009.04.24/state-of-the-slr-industry-2009
I do think that Canon or perhaps Canon USA specifically, may be shifting inventory
to smaller dealers to weaken the retail power of the megastores such as B&H.
One might wonder why Canon doesn't raise prices even more, since they can
evidently sell all of what they make at current prices, with shortages at the larger
retailers. But assuming they don't want to do that for whatever reason, I can see
why they might take this chance to starve the retailers that exercise some degree
of pricing power over them and instead feed the smaller guys who won't be able
to bargain for lower wholesale prices when production picks up in the future.
I'm just speculating, though.
Aug 22, 2009 at 01:21 AM