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p.16 #1 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Paul Buff wrote:
Actually, we were eight years ahead in the breast cancer awareness campaign.


nice!



Oct 30, 2009 at 02:09 PM
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p.16 #2 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I just got the medium PLM a week ago, here's one shot with it. The light source is a Sigma 500DG super, triggered with Cactus V2s (unreliable POS).

http://www.samboyko.com/photography/linked/dan/IMG_9070b.jpg

Some setup shots:
http://www.samboyko.com/photography/linked/dan/setup1.jpg
http://www.samboyko.com/photography/linked/dan/setup2.jpg
http://www.samboyko.com/photography/linked/dan/setup3.jpg



Oct 31, 2009 at 05:55 PM
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p.16 #3 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


High tech Dude!

Actually, that turned out pretty goood, and it really shows the light pattern of the plm



Oct 31, 2009 at 06:38 PM
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p.16 #4 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


X800 + 64" silver PLM...

http://s2sphotography.com/blog_images/christine/m-7.jpg
http://s2sphotography.com/blog_images/christine/m-1.jpg
http://s2sphotography.com/blog_images/christine/m-5.jpg
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http://s2sphotography.com/blog_images/christine/m-2.jpg
http://s2sphotography.com/blog_images/christine/m-3.jpg





Oct 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
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p.16 #5 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


okay i did my first try with the large PLM.
it's huge. and blam. the light quality is really really cool!

PLM in AB1600 camera left up high as main & large octobox camera right really close to the ground for small fill

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gkayacan/4066314680/



Nov 01, 2009 at 06:52 PM
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p.16 #6 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


sbv20 wrote:
I just got the medium PLM a week ago, here's one shot with it. The light source is a Sigma 500DG super, triggered with Cactus V2s (unreliable POS).



I was trying to figure out how to do the same thing. We need an adapter to enable use with a speedlight. Put a 5 sided diffuser on the speedlight and it's somewhat omnidirectional but it needs a way to get it near the center of the PLM.

I also shot for the first time with the small PLM outdoors. Worked well, I hope it is rugged enough to last a while.



Nov 02, 2009 at 09:08 AM
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p.16 #7 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Saed,

I think your shots are excellent. It's hard to differentiate the sun shadows from the PLM shadows. . . a good thing. And they pop!



Nov 02, 2009 at 03:04 PM
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p.16 #8 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


another one;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gkayacan/4070742410/


large PLM camera left up high in a AB1600 - mainlight
large foldable octabox close to the ground camera right in a AB800 - fill light



Nov 03, 2009 at 07:01 AM
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p.16 #9 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


trying to decide what to purchase. the PLM or a octabox/softbox.

from what i've been reading here the PLM seems to be more direction but the octabox/softbox has other options too. (grids)


can someone shed some light here? i was hoping for more examples and talking instead of the bickering.



Nov 03, 2009 at 01:34 PM
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p.16 #10 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


dchu,

They are all very different tools creating different effects. What is the primary effect you are looking to create? Do you have sample images, maybe made by others, that you can refer to?



Nov 03, 2009 at 02:19 PM
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p.16 #11 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Here's a shot from my "fun booth" at my last wedding of the summer...
86" PLM, Norman LH2 head attached to a Norman 200b at 50 w/s. IIRC this was around f5.6 on my 70-200. You should get similar light from a Quantum or Lumedyne head. I was extremely impressed at how well it worked with that little Norman setup. Next season I'm going to do the same thing, but I think I'll just put the camera right in front of the umbrella, for ring light(ish) look.

http://www.lastbestphotography.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/cache/398__800x600_032w8365.jpg



Nov 03, 2009 at 03:48 PM
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p.16 #12 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


and again, same setup as above:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gkayacan/4076950048/



Nov 04, 2009 at 10:01 PM
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p.16 #13 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Paul Buff wrote:
Saed,

I think your shots are excellent. It's hard to differentiate the sun shadows from the PLM shadows. . . a good thing. And they pop!


Paul,

Any word on when the 7mm shaft modified PLM's are going to be available? I had two PLM's in my cart and was about to check out when I saw the note about the "ver 2" changes. The shaft change, and bumping the 42" up to a 48" made it worth waiting a few weeks for them. (http://www.paulcbuff.com/pcb2009/progress-report.html) I'll gladly pre-order




Nov 05, 2009 at 04:47 AM
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p.16 #14 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I watched the video review and I thought it was very well done.

Although I'm fairly new strobes and modifiers, my background is in mathematics and I can explain a bit of the theory behind the parabolic umbrella. Hopefully this will also illustrate how certain designs and techniques may prove to be more effective than others.

The parabola has the property that there is a point (called the focus) where any line/light ray originating from the focus and reflecting off the parabola will result in a ray that travels parallel to the parabola's axis. This property does not depend on the direction the light emanates from the source.

In real-world applications such as this umbrella, the surface is three-dimensional and is more accurately described as a paraboloid. The axis is the shaft of the umbrella, the vertex is the umbrella's tip (where the shaft meets the fabric), and the focus is precisely where you should place the strobe. If you place the strobe too close or too far, or off axis, you will lose the sharp falloff property that is the purpose of the umbrella.

It is also important that the umbrella's shape is reasonably accurate. The Elinchrom octa doesn't seem particularly precise in this regard--I've seen the Broncolor ones and they look very precise in shape (but the price is obscene IMO). So my thinking is that more ribs = more precise light output. Also, the PLM does seem "dishlike" but this only affects one thing: the shallower the paraboloid, the farther away the focus and therefore the narrower the angle of captured light. So the Broncolor parabolics, for example, have the bulb deeply recessed within the umbrella, which should translate to much greater flash efficiency.

I hope this helps. As I mentioned, I don't know a whole lot about studio flash, but I find it interesting that photographers have found useful applications for mathematical concepts.



Nov 05, 2009 at 09:28 PM
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p.16 #15 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


bump


Nov 08, 2009 at 02:34 AM
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p.16 #16 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I nearly poked my eye out(twice) on the shaft of the PLM, so I wanted something to cover the end.
I drilled a 8 mm hole in a golf ball, works like a charm, doesn't block the light and preserves eyesight.

Erik

EDIT: typo



Nov 08, 2009 at 11:35 AM
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p.16 #17 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Take a hacksaw to the shaft at the length you want, then file the edges smooth. The next release will have much shorter shafts.


Nov 09, 2009 at 12:43 AM
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p.16 #18 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Paul: will the next release have removeable shafts like the softlighter? Or just shorter shafts?


Nov 09, 2009 at 11:12 AM
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p.16 #19 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Used a 86" Silver PLM last weekend at an afternoon wedding with a AB800.









Nov 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM
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p.16 #20 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Is the shaft hollow or solid?


Nov 10, 2009 at 01:05 AM
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