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Looks good enough for me. Ordered a white.


Aug 11, 2009 at 07:44 PM
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Dear Friends

I'm going to order one, too, but what I'm really waiting for is MAX.

I know the naysayers MAX will never happen, but if Paul doesn't have a stroke or worse, it'll be here within six months, and probably sooner.

--Jaddie



Aug 11, 2009 at 08:02 PM
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It certainly arouses curiosity. I'm looking forward to seeing more examples.


Aug 11, 2009 at 09:13 PM
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maczilla wrote:
Dear Friends

I'm going to order one, too, but what I'm really waiting for is MAX.

I know the naysayers MAX will never happen, but if Paul doesn't have a stroke or worse, it'll be here within six months, and probably sooner.

--Jaddie


Nobody is doubting it is coming.....but maybe not with the initial promised specs :-)



Aug 11, 2009 at 10:06 PM
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Are you kidding that looks like direct flash..ouch..


Aug 11, 2009 at 10:51 PM
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i dont think youre using it right


Aug 11, 2009 at 10:58 PM
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i'll learn. all this is new to me. $75 gives me a chance to try something casually and maybe learn to love it. i am grateful for what Paul is doing. now i'll probably buy a few ABs and upgrade em to MAXs when they ship. i'll be good and spare others the pain of looking at my early attempts.
enjoy,
vincent



Aug 11, 2009 at 11:12 PM
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are you using the PLM with a hotshot flash? That what it looks like. They are designed for a barebulb strobe


Aug 12, 2009 at 12:49 AM
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turbodude wrote:
are you using the PLM with a hotshot flash? That what it looks like. They are designed for a barebulb strobe


joewoo wrote:
i dont think youre using it right


digitaled wrote:
Are you kidding that looks like direct flash..ouch..


Why do you all think this looks so incredibly wrong? A focused para is basically a very large crisp light source. It doesn't act much like an umbrella other than looking like one.

Granted the light in that photos is not executed in a flattering manor, I'd say if you're going to use it as a key maybe get up it up another couple of feet and consider the overall lighting scenario.

Of course he could have just had the flash head aiming the wrong way or had the flash 20ft away from the model

@ amplexis do you have a setup shot?




Aug 12, 2009 at 01:07 AM
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If this product takes off, we will enter a new golden age of Hard Light. To the extent this surface is parabolic (and silver), the light is hard regardless of spread angle, meaning sharp shadow edges. Other than illuminating a much larger area, the giant para light quality is identical to that from collimated sources like a fresnel, narrow grid, para reflector of standard size (e.g. Profoto Narrow Beam), as well as point sources like bare bulb or camera flash. The giant para doesn't override studio lighting principles like key/fill or placement.


Aug 12, 2009 at 02:23 AM
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turbodude wrote:
are you using the PLM with a hotshot flash? That what it looks like. They are designed for a barebulb strobe


i'm using it with a dynalite uni400jr




Aug 12, 2009 at 04:44 AM
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i don't have a setup shot. she is 8 feet from the lamp, the sun has just gone behind the mountains and the lamp is on a stand with the bottom edge 1 foot from the ground


Aug 12, 2009 at 04:50 AM
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by "not using it right".... i meant that the person probably would look better facing the light source at the least...


Aug 12, 2009 at 04:55 AM
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Jammy Straub wrote:
Why do you all think this looks so incredibly wrong? A focused para is basically a very large crisp light source. It doesn't act much like an umbrella other than looking like one.

Granted the light in that photos is not executed in a flattering manor, I'd say if you're going to use it as a key maybe get up it up another couple of feet and consider the overall lighting scenario.


+1

Yes, that's what it should look like- notice how little spill there is on the grass, from a 70+" light source..!



Aug 12, 2009 at 04:55 AM
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shoebox9 wrote:
+1

Yes, that's what it should look like- notice how little spill there is on the grass, from a 70+" light source..!


X2...that was the first thing I noticed. If you shot that with a 60" umbrella there would be a giant patch all around her.



Aug 12, 2009 at 05:51 AM
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The metering is a bit off on that photo but the light looks good - sharp fall off, lack of spill - pretty impressive from a large light source.


Aug 12, 2009 at 06:57 AM
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Amplexis: The effect looks just like the light I'd expect a large parabolic relflector to produce. At 160 w/s seconds what was your ISO and aperture and the approximate distance from the edge of the PLM to the cabin?
Can I assume the slight purplish tint to the lit area is due to you using auto white balance ( and yes my display is very carefully and recently calibrated and profiled ).



Aug 12, 2009 at 08:28 AM
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F/4.5 1/6th sec 200 iso. PLM is about 15 feet from the corner of the porch. the white balance is something i neglected to tune in the raw conversion. again i'm just trying to show what the PLM does..


Aug 12, 2009 at 08:40 AM
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re white balance question: I just wanted to make sure the PLM wasn't adding some unexpected color to the light.


Aug 12, 2009 at 08:57 AM
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amplexis wrote:
F/4.5 1/6th sec 200 iso. PLM is about 15 feet from the corner of the porch. the white balance is something i neglected to tune in the raw conversion. again i'm just trying to show what the PLM does..


It's hard to judge the quality of light from your shot with the subject and at 1/6 because you are introducing a lot of ambient light in there.

I would say take a shot of something with a higher shutter speed (1/200) and maybe a white wall? Or a plain wall........




Aug 12, 2009 at 09:00 AM
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