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p.1 #1 · 100-400 for action photography


There have been countless threads of the "100-400 vs. 400 f/5.6" type all over the internet photography fora. The sharpness debate is probably the most popular one.
Typically the 100-400 owners like their 100-400, the 400 f/5.6 owners like their prime lens best. What else is new.

However, there is also a rather commonly held notion that the prime is better for photographing fast action such as running animals or birds in flight. A few, but not all, 100-400 owners do acknowledge that their lens is sluggish to focus.

That is what I'd like to explore in some detail here: the agility of 100-400 lens.
How good have you found the lens for tracking fast objects, be that animals, birds, fast vehicles, sports and such ?


As usual, first hand experience based input is hoped for. Those folks who have used the 100-400 for fast action successfully might wish to include some photo examples........that would be quite helpful.

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Jul 03, 2009 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #2 · 100-400 for action photography


http://www.jingmongchi.com/0203.jpg


Jul 03, 2009 at 08:12 PM
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p.1 #3 · 100-400 for action photography


Uhhh...no offense but how exactly is the above image portraying a fast subject? It doesn't speak anything to the 100-400's AF let alone AF at all. Anyhow, in reference to the thread here are a few I shot with my 100-400+1.4x TC. Keep in mind I do not shoot a lot of fast action with this lens, so what you see it pretty much the only quick action I've captured with it in as many attempts. Also keep in mind that the subject, even though it was shot with a TC attached, was shot against a clear blue sky which makes it that much easier for the lens to track it. I've done some little league baseball as well, but I've yet to upload it to flickr.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/3556954582_a6fd0b708b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/3555324620_b891586bcc_b.jpg
I do want to state that I don't feel the lens is as fast to focus as the 400/5.6 but it's not a terribly slow lens either. Obviously it can shoot fast action, there are just better lenses out there for the job.

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Jul 03, 2009 at 08:24 PM
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p.1 #4 · 100-400 for action photography


Nice black crowned night heron.

It would probably be most useful if people who've owned and used both lenses would offer their opinion. You could do fast action with manual focus with enough time, effort, lost shots and luck, but it really doesn't say much about the alternative.



Jul 03, 2009 at 08:26 PM
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p.1 #5 · 100-400 for action photography


Great input, Matt, thanx.


Jul 03, 2009 at 08:32 PM
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p.1 #6 · 100-400 for action photography


Thanks, Pingflood and anytime, Peter

Out of curiosity, Peter, have you shot with the 100-400 at all? If so what were your personal findings--specifically when compared to the 400/5.6? The only reason I ask is because you seem to be an exception to the rule in that your ability to use nearly any lens for PIF's and do so successfully, regardless of the lenses AF speed. It makes me think that technique in such situations outweighs AF performance almost entirely.



Jul 03, 2009 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #7 · 100-400 for action photography


Matt, I do not wanna spoil the feedback with my experience yet because I haven't used the 100-400 for action recently. These days I like to use it for stationary targets/scenes and I am very pleased with its performance.


Jul 03, 2009 at 08:47 PM
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p.1 #8 · 100-400 for action photography


I've been pretty happy with my 100-400 for girls soccer or boys baseball:
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/526783439_VYyRp-XL.jpg

http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/161217384_GhFMW-XL.jpg

It's a great airshow lens:
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/581331552_GQtNH-XL.jpg
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/514922355_kebjg-XL.jpg
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/578758124_xtfQw-XL.jpg

I don't have many BIF shots, and those I do have are slow-moving hawks, so probably not much of a challenge.

I love my 100-400, and I can't imagine ever selling it.

Mark

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Jul 03, 2009 at 08:55 PM
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p.1 #9 · 100-400 for action photography


In the daylight, my 100-400 worked well for sports -- and I was sometimes even afforded the luxury of stopping down a bit, if the light was bright enough. Although I must admit, most of my sports photography is indoors or under night lights, so I rarely used the 100-400...so infrequently that I just sold it today on the B/S board . We'll see if I miss it.

Here's one with the 30D:

http://www.pbase.com/tmr_wa/image/98806197.jpg

--tom




Jul 03, 2009 at 09:06 PM
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p.1 #10 · 100-400 for action photography


Mine (100-400) seems to get the job done. This was the very first time I found out what it was capable of, on a 1Dmk2n.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_z3rAnHnUjjY/SHfxaSc0W9I/AAAAAAAAMqI/PmfEq4e30H8/s800/INGR3920.JPG


and the crop that had me sold on it.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_z3rAnHnUjjY/SGwz9b42JVI/AAAAAAAAMHc/sHrg96BzX-c/s800/INGR3920.JPG





Jul 03, 2009 at 09:10 PM
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p.1 #11 · 100-400 for action photography


msalvetti wrote:
It's a great airshow lens:
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/578758124_xtfQw-XL.jpg

Mark


Mark, that one is my favourite. The drama is there and all.



Jul 03, 2009 at 09:12 PM
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p.1 #12 · 100-400 for action photography


The "NAVY" shot....Where were you able to get that perfect of a shot? Were you on the ground or in the air? Beautiful shot. Thanks for sharing...


Jul 03, 2009 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #13 · 100-400 for action photography


Not the fastest targets but that 100-400 works wonders for me:

http://hnilsson.smugmug.com/photos/503171777_oj2We-XL.jpg

http://hnilsson.smugmug.com/photos/503140211_ELwc2-XL.jpg

http://hnilsson.smugmug.com/photos/535342590_zf4iR-XL.jpg



Jul 03, 2009 at 09:20 PM
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p.1 #14 · 100-400 for action photography


Looks like one of those military hardware posters.

Here's mine. My problem tracking a BIF is not the AF, it's my skill keeping the bird in the frame.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3471779519_e3e9e82cb1_o.jpg

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Jul 03, 2009 at 09:24 PM
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p.1 #15 · 100-400 for action photography


This is turning out very good, guys.
Especially the images posted might help some of us to rethink a bit our use of the 100-400 lens.



Jul 03, 2009 at 09:24 PM
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p.1 #16 · 100-400 for action photography


reno.peterson wrote:
The "NAVY" shot....Where were you able to get that perfect of a shot? Were you on the ground or in the air? Beautiful shot. Thanks for sharing...


Thanks guys. I wish I was in the air. That was last weekend, at the RI Airshow. Just happened to have a perfectly-placed cloud bank. Here's another:
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/photos/576124654_d9svf-XL.jpg

As we speak I'm busy working through the 2,000 shots I took that day. These are the only two Blues I've processed so far. Gradually populating this gallery:
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/gallery/8710977_EiTDy#578909056_temeG

All with the 100-400 and my 40D.

Last year's show is here, same lens/body combo:
http://msalvetti.smugmug.com/gallery/5314255_CSHZR#324426578_4aKaE

Mark



Jul 03, 2009 at 09:30 PM
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p.1 #17 · 100-400 for action photography


I've got way too many to post but I've shot motorsport including rallies, V8 Supercars etc along with Aussie Rules (AFL) football, soccer, tennis, cycling, rugby league, wrestling, motocross, air shows plus heaps of other sports, plus stuff like rock concerts etc all with the 100-400 and in different lighting (day, night, artificial) conditions.
I don't regret at all having bought it. It's a great lens indeed.
Go to www.freewebs.com/philwillmedia/apps/photos to see my photo gallery.
Most of the images up until March of this year (2009) were taken with that lens.
From August 2004 until late 2007 it was coupled to a 10D. In late 2007 I bought a 1D MkII and used it with that until March this year when I bought a 70-200/2.8 and 300/2.8 with 2X and 1.4X extenders and have been using those most of the time but still have the 100-400 and have no intention of getting rid of it.


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Jul 03, 2009 at 09:41 PM
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p.1 #18 · 100-400 for action photography


Very nice pictures, one and all... almost makes me rethink my decision to get a 300 f4 instead of a 100-400.

There's no denying the zoominess of the 100-400. The split second you need 380mm instead of 400mm, that zoom is going to be worth it's weight in gold.



Jul 03, 2009 at 09:42 PM
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p.1 #19 · 100-400 for action photography


heres on portland or airshow
30D/100-400
my first ever shooting
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2758489112_9ec2fde1cc_b.jpg



Jul 04, 2009 at 12:14 AM
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p.1 #20 · 100-400 for action photography


EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS on a EOS 5D or EOS 5DII. Yes, you can do "action photography" with a 5D class camera.

http://gdanmitchell.com/gallery/d/2684-3/ArmstrongTimeTrial20090214.jpg

http://gdanmitchell.com/gallery/d/521-3/BlueAngelsCloseBW20081011.jpg

http://gdanmitchell.com/gallery/d/2437-4/EgretAlights20081130.jpg

http://gdanmitchell.com/gallery/d/1456-2/ThreePelicansInFlight20080824.jpg

Dan

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