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keithreeder
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p.3 #1 · 100-400 for action photography


Colin Key wrote:
Anyone else disagree with this?


I can't disagree (no experience), but I was surprised to read it...



Jul 04, 2009 at 12:26 PM
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p.3 #2 · 100-400 for action photography


keithreeder wrote:
He means the 100-400mm is lighter than the Sigma, Jim.


Oops. My bad. I misread his post.



Jul 04, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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Colin Key wrote:
Anyone else disagree with this? I use both lenses on a 1DMk3 and almost always have a x1.4TC on the 500mm but would say that the latter is decidedly faster at AF.

Colin


Colin,

It is very close (both the 100-400mm and 500mm + 1.4xTC are F5.6 lenses). The difference depends on the setting of the focus limiting switch and the difference between the starting and ending point of focus. Since the 500mm is more likely to have to travel farther, it is more likely to be slightly slower. The difference is almost non-existant. I guess that was my point. The 100-400mm is quite fast and almost identical to any F5.6 combo I have used.



Jul 04, 2009 at 12:51 PM
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p.3 #4 · 100-400 for action photography


Jim, you get me close enough in your boat to them birds, and I'll show you how an old 80-200L zoom can kick those fat 500 f/4 and 100-400 a$$es.

Edited on Nov 16, 2009 at 04:19 PM · View previous versions



Jul 04, 2009 at 01:21 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Jim, you get me close enough in your boat to them birds, and I'll show you how an old 80-200L zoom can kick those fat 500 f/4 and 100-400 a$$es.


Just let me know when you are ready. I'll get you as close as you want to be. The rest of what you mentioned is easier said than done. We'll see. So far my fat old 500F4 is undefeated.



Jul 04, 2009 at 01:44 PM
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p.3 #6 · 100-400 for action photography


Some more old PIF shots with 100-400. Please note from the standpoint of camera AF the #1 and #2 were easy. The #3 was a bit harder. That's why I only managed to establish focus on the bird as it was landing.

Edited on Nov 16, 2009 at 04:18 PM · View previous versions



Jul 04, 2009 at 02:15 PM
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p.3 #7 · 100-400 for action photography


Nice pigeon shots. You are just kidding around about your challenge aren't you?


Jul 04, 2009 at 02:22 PM
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JimN wrote:
Oops. My bad. I misread his post.


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Yes, sorry could have put it clearer.

Basically I find the 100-400 great for action in good light. If the light is poor then I find I need to switch to my Sigma 120-300 f2.8.



Jul 04, 2009 at 02:41 PM
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p.3 #9 · 100-400 for action photography


These bird shots are outstanding. I've used (rented) the 300mm f2.8 before on my 40D, but I can't picture the extra 100mm helping that much unless you were relatively close already? Or have these been cropped pretty tight?

I'mm wondering because you get to infinity pretty quick on the focus ring, and if you are that far away, is there any need to worry about changing focus? Leave it at max and shoot? Sorry if this comes across as a real newb question.



Jul 04, 2009 at 03:01 PM
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JimN wrote:
Nice pigeon shots. You are just kidding around about your challenge aren't you?


Jim, only half kidding.

In my old days I have developed a bit of a perverse sense of funny.
Last winter a group of guys were shooting ducks in flight by the lake......Long tails, Buffle Heads, Mallards etc.
All of them had some sort of long telephoto lenses, mostly white.
Then I joined them with my 20D + EF-S 60mm f/2.8 macro. As I started firing away earnestly, never chimping even once, I could swear I was making the other guys nervous.



Jul 04, 2009 at 03:48 PM
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p.3 #11 · 100-400 for action photography


There is probably more to be gained by skill of the photographer than by the difference in lenses. I had the 100-400mm lens and the 400 5.6.

The 400 5.6 was much sharper and faster, but with the right level of skill, I expect they both would have supurb images.

I've sold them both for now, and sticking with shorter focal lengths until I can afford a wide aperture long prime.



Jul 04, 2009 at 04:04 PM
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I still get other photogs that walk up to me and very seriously tell me that I can't possibly get sharp images hand holding the 500mm. They really think I'm nuts when I put on the 2x.


Jul 04, 2009 at 04:05 PM
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JimN wrote:
I still get other photogs that walk up to me and very seriously tell me that I can't possibly get sharp images hand holding the 500mm. They really think I'm nuts when I put on the 2x.


1000mm handheld ain't an easy feat even with IS.

Three more 100-400 PIFs.
(Damn, after this pijun-fest I'll never be able to bag again the 100-400 for its sluggish AF )

Edited on Nov 16, 2009 at 04:18 PM · View previous versions



Jul 04, 2009 at 05:07 PM
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p.3 #14 · 100-400 for action photography


Where have all the pijuns gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the pijuns gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the pijuns gone?
PetKal picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?



Jul 04, 2009 at 05:17 PM
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p.3 #15 · 100-400 for action photography


That's a brilliant shot Dan

gdanmitchell wrote:
EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS on a EOS 5D or EOS 5DII. Yes, you can do "action photography" with a 5D class camera.

http://gdanmitchell.com/gallery/d/1456-2/ThreePelicansInFlight20080824.jpg

Dan




Jul 04, 2009 at 05:34 PM
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p.3 #16 · 100-400 for action photography


These guys (Northern Fulmars) don't hang around either:





(Yeah, the whites on head of the second one are hot - but that's a different discussion!)



Jul 04, 2009 at 06:11 PM
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p.3 #17 · 100-400 for action photography


And lucky! :-)

Dan

joekraft wrote:
That's a brilliant shot Dan





Jul 04, 2009 at 06:24 PM
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p.3 #18 · 100-400 for action photography


Does this qualify? I (with my vehicle + gear) was about to cross the mighty Cagayan river on a birding sortie, and the makeshift barge was steaming towards me at full speed (perhaps at 100 miles per day).



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"LITTLEST RORO VESSEL IN THE WORLD? Supported by two wooden boats each with its own 4-cylinder diesel engine, the platform of the raft can carry 3 small cars or tricycles. I initially hesitated to risk the crossing, but when I looked at the faces of drivers that crossed before us, it looked like doing so is the most ordinary thing in the world. Well, the prospect of bagging quite a few lifebirds swayed me to go for it."



1DM2 + 100-400 IS, 235 mm, f/5.6, ISO 100, 1/500 sec, hand held

http://www.pbase.com/liquidstone/image/73440601/original.jpg



Jul 04, 2009 at 07:00 PM
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Liquidstone wrote:
Does this qualify?


Well, Romy, that's still an action although not exactly lightning fast.
However, the uniqueness of the barge makes up for its slowness.



Jul 04, 2009 at 07:25 PM
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alundeb wrote:
Where have all the pijuns gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the pijuns gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the pijuns gone?
PetKal picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?



Anders, I am moved by your poetry.
Mind you, some of the pijuns have gone to Studio 35 where we shoot PIFs with EF 35L. Here is a sample.

Edited on Nov 16, 2009 at 05:14 PM · View previous versions



Jul 04, 2009 at 07:28 PM
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