Again sending just for the people that still dont learn from the near past Sending an optical device in without any clue of defectiveness just for check the sure is that it will cause only problems and its nothing. Please make the suggested test and and whenever you are have the described problem then find the suitable center to fix it. I have 1DmarkIII and I have seen that problem but I have to insist in that tests as most of the time I use either only the center or the center expanded. About the Error 99 I still beleive that the anounchment was a product of a hard work on service centers that still repairing that problem. It was a very good idea that they finally decided to make the anounchmet (maybe marketing reasons) and also that the finally decided to specify in the firmware the Error99 to seperate error codes AT LAST.
Ralph Thompson wrote:
I apologize if the thread already covered this because I fast forwared to the end.... I spoke with a canon pro rep today at PMA. He said they are replacing the entire mirror box assembly and have a new firmware update. He said it seems to have solved all the problems, but we have heard that before.......I plan on sending mine in as soon as I can arrainge a back up! Baseball season is here!!!!!
Thanks for the report! That's interesting - I think there are some communication problems. I dropped our 1Ds MkIII at Irvine today. They almost didn't take it but I wanted them to check the AF spec. According to the person I spoke with, any camera that has been in for service since mid-November already has the fix applied. Our M3 was in at the beginning of January and had the AF 'electronically' adjusted after I complained of some inconsistency. So, someone has their wires crossed.
Ralph Thompson wrote:
I apologize if the thread already covered this because I fast forwared to the end.... I spoke with a canon pro rep today at PMA. He said they are replacing the entire mirror box assembly and have a new firmware update. He said it seems to have solved all the problems, but we have heard that before.......I plan on sending mine in as soon as I can arrainge a back up! Baseball season is here!!!!!
Interesting I sent my MK III in and 85 L to get calibrated back in January. I got it back saying claiming the mirror box was replaced.
Canons biggest mistake on the 1Dmk3 was making the AF so advanced and customizable that 20% of the guys using them still have no idea how to set up the fastest most accurate AF i have ever used. The same people who expect a formula one car to set itself for every track it drives on all by itself.
So you need a whole team and be a world expert to get it to work right? That's what your comparison means. On the other hand people are picking up Nikons and it just works. Or comparing to mkII's where it just works. Dunno about you but when I decide which pro body to buy I don't want to have to be a rocket scientist or need a handbook beside me nor be stuck with a pro camera that has one useable focus point. Nor particularly do I want to work with a company that has denied and denied and denied that there are ongoing problems with its cameras. I don't have to own a mkIII to have this opinion. I don't have to invest good money for the 1.5 years of heartache that mkIII owners have had - to decide to pass..
dehowie wrote:
I mean there have basically been NO posts regarding the original issues that affected "some" 1Dmk3's here or almost anywhere for ages. And i cant even remember seeing a post regarding the issue Canon are recalling on.
Oh yes there were. We've had plenty of threads on the AF idiosyncrasies. I started one myself a few months ago: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/693695. Is it related to the fix Canon is offering? I don't know, but I'm willing to try it out.
Two other factors contribute here: 1) a lot of us got sick and tired to read we don't know how to use our cameras so we work around the problems we have and stopped asking for solutions on the internet and 2) a lot of us got sick and tired by the way Canon handled our problems and switched to Nikon.
In fact almost everyone using them (as opposed to those who talk aimlessly about them) is absolutely stoked with the quality of the AF and its accuracy.
See my points above.
I mean just take a look through the wildlife threads to check out some stellar MK3 images. So Canon come out doing the "right thing" that there is an isue with some units regarding off center focusing and the world has stopped.
The 1D3 is capable of landing the most wonderful images and I don't think anyone has ever disagreed. If it weren't I would have sold mine a long time ago. It just takes me a bit of extra work that I wasn't expecting from a 1D-series and I could do without, like taking every image at least twice just to be sure. My 5D has a more accurate AF system. But as said: I've managed to work around it. Doesn't mean it doesn't have a problem, at least for some of us.
I mean i have used an off center focus point in two years of using both cameras maybe 6 times with no probs what so ever so mine are staying in my bag.
Wait a minute. Let me get this straight: you state you've used off-center focussing 6 times without a hitch and yet you ridicule everyone who uses off-center focussing 80% of the time and encounters problems and for whom this fix is? Wow! That's just like venturing opinions on a camera one doesn't own, isn't it?
As for Nikon maybe guys thinking about jumping ship may want to check out there board and the issue about metering which is has been popping up since release on the D3.
Might well be true. The D3x seems to have a bunch of problems of its own. The grass hardly ever is greener even though it might look that way. It's all about compromise.
Canons biggest mistake on the 1Dmk3 was making the AF so advanced and customizable that 20% of the guys using them still have no idea how to set up the fastest most accurate AF i have ever used. The same people who expect a formula one car to set itself for every track it drives on all by itself.
There you go. See my comments at the top. It's comments like these that put a lot of us off and made us shut up. News flash: even Canon seems to disagree with you. If it were so darn perfect, why would they issue a recall? Please enlighten me (for once).
Sorry but most of those guys should of stuck with P+S cameras and leave the real gear with people who have some idea what they are doing...and yes im tired of reading pulp form people who have no idea,no experience and dont even use the gear.
You've got a lot of nerve and I'd say that's probably your strong point. I just hope you put it to good use too.
Have a great day,
Emile
Emile Gregoire wrote:
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1) a lot of us got sick and tired to read we don't know how to use our cameras so we work around the problems we have and stopped asking for solutions on the internet
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Yes, that's me you're describing. No need to continue taking insults on the 'net when there is no help to be found.
Regarding new colored dots:
Provided there's a pot of gold at the end of it they can stick a rainbow on my camera.
What's wrong with this picture here? A revival of dead thread.
Either someone hoping to score one cheap and bashing it to death or simply got nothing better to do in life.
If you have one then enjoy it until it dies. If you don't like it then just switch to something that works for you. I see absolutely no point to bring this up as the original poster just trying to start another wave of attacks and criticism.
If you don't have one but just love to beat up the opposition then you are welcome. After all, the Canon users enjoyed the success for the past 6 years in DSLR where everyone else had been sidelined and humiliated for so long until the 1D3 issue surfaced.
Almost all do find the 1D3 to be tricky as it is not user friendly. Once one can master the body then one should perform well. The Canon gave too much customization which it made ordinary users cry foul. The 1D3s had became too technical to use than simply press the button. It is hard to out done its previous model as we already know that 1Dm2s were extremely well made for everything. Afterall it still gets faster shots than the D3 with better resolution at highest fps rate. I still see pro uses Canon while strong crowd of Nikon followers are still out there trying to take a spot in the stand.
s23chang wrote:
What's wrong with this picture here? A revival of dead thread.
Either someone hoping to score one cheap and bashing it to death or simply got nothing better to do in life.
If you have one then enjoy it until it dies. If you don't like it then just switch to something that works for you. I see absolutely no point to bring this up as the original poster just trying to start another wave of attacks and criticism.
If you don't have one but just love to beat up the opposition then you are welcome. After all, the Canon users enjoyed the success for the past 6 years in DSLR where everyone else had been sidelined and humiliated for so long until the 1D3 issue surfaced.
Almost all do find the 1D3 to be tricky as it is not user friendly. Once one can master the body then one should perform well. The Canon gave too much customization which it made ordinary users cry foul. The 1D3s had became too technical to use than simply press the button. It is hard to out done its previous model as we already know that 1Dm2s were extremely well made for everything. Afterall it still gets faster shots than the D3 with better resolution at highest fps rate. I still see pro uses Canon while strong crowd of Nikon followers are still out there trying to take a spot in the stand.
what do you mean by revival of a "dead thread"? the service notice in question was posted by canon yesterday.....while i have not expereinced any af problems with the 1ds3 since it arrived in nov '07, for canon to have published service notices at various points indicates that there are some people who are experiencing problems, and problems significant enough for canon to address them. while there are people at every level on most internet boards, and clearly you see people who do not always read their camera manuals and ask some pretty basic questions that could be addressed if they would crack open the documentation, i don't think that under the circumstances you can dismiss the problems as being a result of to too many customization options or user error.
it is a double edged sword: the bad news is there appear to still be some af issues- the good news......they are addressing them.
cineski wrote:
You think Canon is recalling the 1D3 and 1Ds3 to dumb the camera down? You didn't say as much, but your post thinks this. Of course, I've never met you, so I'm way off kilter. Apparently Canon designed this radically powerful AF with mental telepathy which you must have a highly acute sense of!
Canon should "dumb it down". As someone that DID have trouble with the camera (on static subjects) I'd be fine if they gave us two AF modes.
1) The old 45-point mode (what I've used on my "working" 1 series cameras)
2) New and improved, random, anything goes and incomprehensible mode that no one can quite figure out, even the guys at Canon.
Now everyone could choose what mode to use. Before choosing, all shooters could ask themselves a question:
Do you feel lucky?
Just a thought. To me, AF should never be so complicated people can't figure out how to make it work.
apdieb wrote:
I'll definitely send mine in for a checkup, but it will not go to VA.
Don't worry. just sent it to Irvine or Jamesburg, they can check it and fix it if needed.
My 1D Mark III is in Jamesburg now, I just called them regarding the AF service notice, and asked them if the camera needs to be transfered to VA, they said NO, they will take care of it regarding the AF adjustment service notice...
And I do agree with you the Irvine and Jamesburg will do better job than VA...
