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p.1 #15DII vs 5D AF...improved?
Fully aware both bodies are equipped with the same AF system, I was curious as to Canon's definition of 'tweaked' and whether or not it was just a marketing ploy or if they really had altered the AF. For those with first hand use with both bodies (preferably at the same time), have you noticed any difference in speed, accuracy, tracking or low light performance? BTW, I meant 'Center point' (singular) so don't give me garbage 
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A few more things--If you voted, please try and comment as to:
A) The type of photography you shoot
B) If you do see a difference where (conditions) do you see it (eg: low light, action etc)
C) If you do see a difference under which settings/modes do you see it (eg: AI Servo, One Shot, wide/narrow apertures etc)
Try and be as specific as possible, rather than just stating you 'see a difference'. Thanks, Guys and Gals
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EDIT
A few more things--If you voted, please try and comment as to:
A) The type of photography you shoot
B) If you do see a difference where (conditions) do you see it (eg: low light, action etc)
C) If you do see a difference under which settings/modes do you see it (eg: AI Servo, One Shot, wide/narrow apertures etc)
Try and be as specific as possible, rather than just stating you 'see a difference'. Thanks, Guys and Gals
Edited on Jan 02, 2009 at 12:08 PM · View previous versions
Jan 01, 2009 at 11:55 PM
p.1 #25DII vs 5D AF...improved?
Without a doubt the center point AI-Servo performance is much speedier. I have used (2) 5D's since the first week they were released. Been using the 5D2 for about a month and have been very successful using Servo with centerpoint and expansion points active. Shot a couple of NHL games along side my 1D3 just to try it out and was shocked. I would rarely if ever use servo on my 5D. The 5D2 works better regardless of the specs. Granted, I have not tried to servo focus in really dim lighting with it yet...but in a NHL arena there is a significant and very noticeable difference. Shooting a wedding Saturday, so I'll try out some low-light servo performance there.
FWIW.
Andrew
FWIW.
Andrew
Jan 02, 2009 at 01:39 AM
p.1 #35DII vs 5D AF...improved?
I have the 5D and 5D2 and 2 copies of the 24-105L and just did a quick comparisson in one-shot mode.
Shooting a monument outside my window (night time 200 meters away) at 105mm both cameras locked on in about the same time. Then I tried shooting a pillow that was only lit by my Macbooks screen with all points activated and found both hunted around a bit before getting the shot. So for these cases it seems to be business as usual.
When I tried shooting windsurfing yesterday I was very impressed by the tracking in AI servo mode with the 5D2. Did not try the 5D then.
Shooting a monument outside my window (night time 200 meters away) at 105mm both cameras locked on in about the same time. Then I tried shooting a pillow that was only lit by my Macbooks screen with all points activated and found both hunted around a bit before getting the shot. So for these cases it seems to be business as usual.
When I tried shooting windsurfing yesterday I was very impressed by the tracking in AI servo mode with the 5D2. Did not try the 5D then.
Jan 02, 2009 at 05:49 AM
p.1 #45DII vs 5D AF...improved?
Tracking at dim light also good, I always using AI servo to track my son's eye indoor and sometimes in a very dim resturant (with the 24-70). Close to 100% hit target unless you can't point where you want.
Also used the 5D2 for a month and for sure the AI servo ability is equal or even faster than the 40D I used before.
The one shot mode I can't find significant different between my 40D, my friend's 5D and my 5D2
Also used the 5D2 for a month and for sure the AI servo ability is equal or even faster than the 40D I used before.
The one shot mode I can't find significant different between my 40D, my friend's 5D and my 5D2
Jan 02, 2009 at 06:22 AM
p.1 #65DII vs 5D AF...improved?
for me the low light focusing ability improved for both center and outer points, esp the outer points
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Jan 02, 2009 at 07:43 AM
p.1 #75DII vs 5D AF...improved?
Aberdeen Photo wrote:
for me the low light focusing ability improved bor both center and outer points, esp the outer points
I concur. I shot a wedding last weekend and noticed it was better than my old 5D.
for me the low light focusing ability improved bor both center and outer points, esp the outer points
I concur. I shot a wedding last weekend and noticed it was better than my old 5D.
Jan 02, 2009 at 07:45 AM
p.1 #95DII vs 5D AF...improved?
John Power wrote:
Then I wonder why the majority say no
Actually, if you look at the choices FOR improvement, it adds up to 11, which is greater than 8
Then I wonder why the majority say no
Actually, if you look at the choices FOR improvement, it adds up to 11, which is greater than 8
Jan 02, 2009 at 08:23 AM
p.1 #105DII vs 5D AF...improved?
One situation where the outer AF points of the 5D would always let me down, was when I used a (medium) telelens up-close (2-3 meters) and focused on the eyes in portraiture shoots with good lighting. Focus had the tendency to lock on to the side of the head and not on the eyes.
Can anybody tell me if the 5D2 performs better than the 5D in this particular situation?
Can anybody tell me if the 5D2 performs better than the 5D in this particular situation?
Jan 02, 2009 at 08:44 AM
p.1 #115DII vs 5D AF...improved?
I hope people who vote in this thread are truely those with experience with both the 5D's ... and it dosen't become corrupted with votes based on opinions vs true observations ... like what people have read elsewhere, "I tried my buddy's MkII..." or "I tried one in the store...".
This coule be an interesting thread ...
This coule be an interesting thread ...
Jan 02, 2009 at 09:45 AM
p.1 #125DII vs 5D AF...improved?
I have voted that all got better, but I will also say that it's a far cry form the 1D(s)3 cameras.
Jan 02, 2009 at 09:52 AM
p.1 #135DII vs 5D AF...improved?
patriot wrote:
I hope people who vote in this thread are truely those with experience with both the 5D's ... and it dosen't become corrupted with votes based on opinions vs true observations ... like what people have read elsewhere, "I tried my buddy's MkII..." or "I tried one in the store...".
This coule be an interesting thread ...
I've indeed had both.
I hope people who vote in this thread are truely those with experience with both the 5D's ... and it dosen't become corrupted with votes based on opinions vs true observations ... like what people have read elsewhere, "I tried my buddy's MkII..." or "I tried one in the store...".
This coule be an interesting thread ...
I've indeed had both.
Jan 02, 2009 at 10:34 AM
p.1 #145DII vs 5D AF...improved?
5D for well over a year and the 5D2 fir almost a month, although lots of holiday party shooting...
Voted for no noticeable difference for my style.
Voted for no noticeable difference for my style.
Jan 02, 2009 at 11:01 AM
p.1 #155DII vs 5D AF...improved?
I noticed all AF points improved in Single Shot and Servo focus. I have about 10-15% less OOF shots with 5DMkII than with the 5D. The biggest difference is in Servo focus.
Jan 02, 2009 at 11:10 AM
p.1 #165DII vs 5D AF...improved?
Daan B wrote:
One situation where the outer AF points of the 5D would always let me down, was when I used a (medium) telelens up-close (2-3 meters) and focused on the eyes in portraiture shoots with good lighting. Focus had the tendency to lock on to the side of the head and not on the eyes.
Can anybody tell me if the 5D2 performs better than the 5D in this particular situation?
Well, Daan your query is one of the reasons for the thread. While I own and love the 5D, I am often frustrated by its AF ability concerning its outer points--specifically when focus and recompose is not an option. This is why I'm having trouble choosing between the MKII and a 1DIII as my next body to replace one of my 40D's. When shooting events I usually get the shots I'm looking for with my 5D and while the AF can be hit or miss the keeper rate is within reasonable bounds. Of course If I were to shoot with a 1-series I'd have a much better keeper rate, but there are also a few, if minor, drawbacks--namely cost, weight and most importantly no FF sensor (including High[er] ISO performance)
If I were to go with the 5DII I'd gain not only the FF sensor in a small light weight package but also a 35L in one fell swoop. Guess its more or less 'pick you're poison', and while I figured there wouldn't be a decent jump in AF performance I guess I was secretly hoping I was wrong.
One situation where the outer AF points of the 5D would always let me down, was when I used a (medium) telelens up-close (2-3 meters) and focused on the eyes in portraiture shoots with good lighting. Focus had the tendency to lock on to the side of the head and not on the eyes.
Can anybody tell me if the 5D2 performs better than the 5D in this particular situation?
Well, Daan your query is one of the reasons for the thread. While I own and love the 5D, I am often frustrated by its AF ability concerning its outer points--specifically when focus and recompose is not an option. This is why I'm having trouble choosing between the MKII and a 1DIII as my next body to replace one of my 40D's. When shooting events I usually get the shots I'm looking for with my 5D and while the AF can be hit or miss the keeper rate is within reasonable bounds. Of course If I were to shoot with a 1-series I'd have a much better keeper rate, but there are also a few, if minor, drawbacks--namely cost, weight and most importantly no FF sensor (including High[er] ISO performance)
If I were to go with the 5DII I'd gain not only the FF sensor in a small light weight package but also a 35L in one fell swoop. Guess its more or less 'pick you're poison', and while I figured there wouldn't be a decent jump in AF performance I guess I was secretly hoping I was wrong.Jan 02, 2009 at 11:28 AM
p.1 #175DII vs 5D AF...improved?
apdieb wrote:
Shooting a wedding Saturday, so I'll try out some low-light servo performance there.
Andrew
I'll be looking forward to your after thoughts...
Shooting a wedding Saturday, so I'll try out some low-light servo performance there.
Andrew
I'll be looking forward to your after thoughts...
Jan 02, 2009 at 11:29 AM
p.1 #185DII vs 5D AF...improved?
M Vers wrote:
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While I own and love the 5D, I am often frustrated by its AF ability concerning its outer points--specifically when focus and recompose is not an option.
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I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for the same reason. Thanks for starting it.
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While I own and love the 5D, I am often frustrated by its AF ability concerning its outer points--specifically when focus and recompose is not an option.
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I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for the same reason. Thanks for starting it.
Jan 02, 2009 at 11:34 AM
p.1 #195DII vs 5D AF...improved?
I mainly shoot landscape and travel with my 5D and have been very happy with AF. It rarely let me down even in dim light. Certainly much better than my prior 10D and 20D (they missed 10-20% of the time in dim light). If the 5DII is even slightly better, it's still a big winner for its intended use/market. I was surprised Canon didn't go with all cross sensors like the 40D/50D. However, even my lowly 5D AI servo (with AF expansion active) tracked better than my 40D.
Jan 02, 2009 at 11:40 AM
p.1 #205DII vs 5D AF...improved?
stanj wrote:
I have voted that all got better, but I will also say that it's a far cry form the 1D(s)3 cameras.
Well, compared to my copy of the 1D3, the original 5D is better. But to be fair, my copy of the 1D3 had a focus issue and was returned after a week of extensive testing.
I have voted that all got better, but I will also say that it's a far cry form the 1D(s)3 cameras.
Well, compared to my copy of the 1D3, the original 5D is better. But to be fair, my copy of the 1D3 had a focus issue and was returned after a week of extensive testing.
Jan 02, 2009 at 11:57 AM