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Jay Connor
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p.1 #1 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Afternoon all

I want to mount a Hensel head to an el Octa

Will this adapter work

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=workaround.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=223032&is=REG

or can you suggest an alternative

Thanks
Jay



Dec 10, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Carmen Miranda
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p.1 #2 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Affirmative.

If you are mounting a heavy monolight inside the Octa you might want to beef up the stand adjustment mount by replacing the stock adjustment knob with a D200 knuckle. It does require drilling the inner hole to a slightly larger diameter to accomodate the D200 bolt, but it is a substantial improvement and ROCK solid.

Standard:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3079957847_932efa75f6.jpg

Modified:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/3079957763_561c80e55f.jpg

D200:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&shs=Avenger+D200&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=jsp%2Fproduct.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=submit

Good luck.



Dec 10, 2008 at 02:17 PM
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p.1 #3 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Thanks Carmen

For the confirmation and

for the D200 modification also

Jay



Dec 10, 2008 at 03:08 PM
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p.1 #4 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Carmen

I got the adapter in the mail today but it came with no instructions

Could you tell me how it works - how to attach it to the octa and to the flash head

Thanks in advance

Jay



Dec 11, 2008 at 11:05 AM
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p.1 #5 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Jay,

Since I use Elinchrom heads I have not used the adaptor. It would seem fairly straight forward though from the look of it.

I would try inserting the adaptor post into the stand mount (5/8" baby receiver) on the Hensel head and turn the adaptor post directly out towards the front of the light. Then with the Octa fully open, move the light with the adaptor post in towards the stock mounting ring. Once the face of the Hensel light gets near where the Elinchrom light would normally be mounted, you should see where the adaptor post plate will mount on the back plate. But before you actually attach the post you might want to double check with your dealer or a rental house to make sure that is in fact the correct mount position, as there may be 2 or more options on the back plate. Hopefully the adaptor post came with the appropriate mounting hardware.

I wouldn't hesitate to email Elinchrom directly for instructions either.

You might also consider posting your findings here for others as a future reference. There doesn't seem to be anything coming up on a Google search.

Good luck.



Dec 11, 2008 at 12:27 PM
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p.1 #6 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Thanks Carmen

Will play with later on

Excellent suggestion - When I figure it out will post pics

Best
Jay



Dec 11, 2008 at 12:55 PM
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p.1 #7 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


jay,
keep us posted on your results. I'm also using Hensel's and am thinking about getting an elinchrom softbox. Is that adapter working?



Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM
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p.1 #8 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Follow-up

As promised here are a few pics showing how to connect a Hensel Head to the El Octa

And a BIG WARNING

The images show how the adapter connects to the Octa mount

I dont have a final pic of the Hensel mounted because .......

I removed the faceplate to try and align the holes for the adapter to be in a better position

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REMOVE THE FACEPLATE !!!!!!!!!!

All the guts fell out and I cant reassemble it

Have an email into Elinchrom to try and figure it out
More to follow when I finally get it fixed

Jay


http://jaycon.smugmug.com/gallery/6827596_j2SRY#436369999_TMkmd



Dec 14, 2008 at 01:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Jay Connor wrote:

Follow-up

As promised here are a few pics showing how to connect a Hensel Head to the El Octa

And a BIG WARNING

The images show how the adapter connects to the Octa mount

I dont have a final pic of the Hensel mounted because .......

I removed the faceplate to try and align the holes for the adapter to be in a better position

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REMOVE THE FACEPLATE !!!!!!!!!!

All the guts fell out and I cant reassemble it

Have an email into Elinchrom to try and figure it out
More to follow when I finally get it fixed

Jay


http://jaycon.smugmug.com/gallery/6827596_j2SRY#436369999_TMkmd


Jay,
did you ever get this figured out? I'm about to plunk down on a deep throat, and I'm also mounting mine to a Hensel.

I'd love to see what the final product looks like, and your link in the above post is no longer working.

Thanks!



Mar 01, 2009 at 05:37 PM
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p.1 #10 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


The adapter for the large EL Octa will NOT work with any regular softboxes! Inside the EL Octa, the light faces backwards and the light is then bounced off the reflection cloth and through the diffusers. In a regular softbox the light faces forward, so to mount an Elinchrom softbox on a Hensel strobe you will need some sort of speed ring adapter to take you from a Hensel mount to an Elinchrom mount, then comes the Deep Octa on top of that.


Mar 01, 2009 at 08:43 PM
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p.1 #11 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


rudiphoto wrote:
The adapter for the large EL Octa will NOT work with any regular softboxes! Inside the EL Octa, the light faces backwards and the light is then bounced off the reflection cloth and through the diffusers. In a regular softbox the light faces forward, so to mount an Elinchrom softbox on a Hensel strobe you will need some sort of speed ring adapter to take you from a Hensel mount to an Elinchrom mount, then comes the Deep Octa on top of that.


uh oh...I'm confused now. let me get all this straight, he's referring to an elinchrom octa (meaning mini/midi/full-size), and not the deep throat (somehow I had been operating under the illusion that we were referrring to the deep throat here).

So do ALL elinchrom softboxes/octas/deepthroat/etc have the light fire to the rear (away from the model) of the light modifier?

I think my error in thinking comes from me assuming that that wacky adapter listed in OP's first post must have been the solution, as the deep throat is a relatively weird softbox.

So what IS that adapter for then? If not the deep throat, then what?

Can you expand on what I would need to mount a deep throat to my hensel integra 500. Not sure whether what I need exists, or whether I'd need to make it or have it fabricated. Or do I just need a standard speedring for Hensel Octa's, and the light just mounts to the rear of the deep thorat? I'm really hoping to be able to add the deep throat to my kit...I'm sure if I could see some pictures of the rear of the thing I would be asking such ridiculous questions.

If you feel this is too off topic, feel free to send me a PM, or start a new thread. (or recommend that I do so).

as always, thanks ahead of time!

Edited on Mar 01, 2009 at 09:48 PM · View previous versions



Mar 01, 2009 at 09:41 PM
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p.1 #12 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


cathpah wrote:
uh oh...I'm confused now. let me get all this straight, he's referring to an elinchrom octa (meaning mini/midi/full-size), and not the deep throat (somehow I had been operating under the illusion that we were referrring to the deep throat here).


He's referring to the 190cm EL Octa, the largest one in the line-up, the Lightbank (or Beauty Light, as they are sometimes called).

cathpah wrote:
So do ALL elinchrom softboxes/octas/deepthroat/etc have the light fire to the rear (away from the model) of the light modifier? I guess I thought that was specific to the deep throat.


Nope, only the Lightbanks do - the EL Octa, EL Recta, etc. You can find them under "Indirect Softlites" on the www.elinchrom.com web page.

I am not sure what you will need to adapt your Hensel, I had a quick look on B&H website but couldn't find anything. That does not mean it does not exist, of course, it just means that I'm in a hurry. I will post here if I find anything later.



Mar 01, 2009 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #13 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Thanks for chiming in again rudi....I guess my only real question then is can I just use the deep throat with a standard hensel octa speedring? (just like how I mount my Chimera strip box to a hensel light)


Mar 01, 2009 at 09:54 PM
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p.1 #14 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


Uh-oh! You might be out of luck, trying to mount a Hensel onto the back of an Elinchrom Deep Octa: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/640633/0#5688172


Mar 01, 2009 at 11:52 PM
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p.1 #15 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


rudiphoto wrote:
Uh-oh! You might be out of luck, trying to mount a Hensel onto the back of an Elinchrom Deep Octa: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/640633/0#5688172


hmmm....I wonder if that is only referring to octa's (such as the one originally being discussed in this thread)

ok...this is making this thread stray too far from the OP's intent (which is enitrely my fault) and I'd like to get more/further opinions and input, so I'm going to create a separate thread to try and answer this question.

thanks again

Edited on Mar 02, 2009 at 12:07 AM · View previous versions



Mar 01, 2009 at 11:59 PM
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p.1 #16 · Mount Hensel to an El Octa


cathpah wrote:
hmmm....I wonder if that is only referring to octa's (such as the one originally being discussed in this thread)


Nope, it definitely is not! The EL Octa can be easily adapted, because any brand of light can be mounted by its stand attachment (using the adapter mentioned in the first post in this thread). You don't have that kind of latitude with regular softboxes...



Mar 02, 2009 at 12:03 AM





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