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mauriceramirez
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p.1 #1 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


I've recently returned to Nikon and those of you familiar with my posts on the Canon forum know that I call it the way I see it regardless of my investment. After a day of testing the 85 f1.4 on a D700 I've found that while its decent for closeups and head and shoulder portraits, its unacceptably soft at distance. IMO $1k straight 85mm lens should shoot perfect images wide open and this doesn't cut it, especially coming from the Canon 85L. My Nikon 24-70 totally blows it out of the water in every way except for focal length.

I'm now thinking about the 85 f1.8, 105VR, or a 70-200 VR. The thing is that the 85 f1.8 looks like the same lens technology as the f1.4 so no upside there other than cost, the 105VR is still just f2.8, and the 70-200VR is a tad generic IMO, plus its a lot of coin for what a lot of people tell me isn't as sharp as the Canon version. Normally I'd do my own testing but time doesn't allow...I need this figured out by the weekend.

Anyone have experience with all of these and can advise which is best on FX?

-m

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Oct 04, 2008 at 03:59 PM
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p.1 #2 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Mine today. Also on a D700. 1.4 1/4000s 200 ISO
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2911404991_03fb649109_b.jpg




Oct 04, 2008 at 04:05 PM
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p.1 #3 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Bloody hell. I'm not getting anywhere near that sharp. Can you post a 100% crop, pls?

This could be a QC thing.

-m



Oct 04, 2008 at 04:08 PM
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p.1 #4 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


maurice,

You may want to try the fine focus adjustment on the D700. That turned my mediocre 50/1.4D into a superstar.

Tom



Oct 04, 2008 at 04:19 PM
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p.1 #5 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


I'll give that a try. Thanks!

-m



Oct 04, 2008 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #6 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/2912445635_f2bb4e6773_o.jpg


Oct 04, 2008 at 04:29 PM
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p.1 #7 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


HOLY 3-D Batman!



PeterGlaso wrote:

Mine today. Also on a D700. 1.4 1/4000s 200 ISO
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2911404991_03fb649109_b.jpg





Oct 04, 2008 at 04:35 PM
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p.1 #8 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Peter, thanks for the 100% crop. Yeah, that proves it... This one is out of whack.

-m



Oct 04, 2008 at 04:38 PM
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p.1 #9 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Are you sure that photo is un-edited? Your bokeh in the center sure looks much creamier than the edges?

Also, is there normally that amount of Chromatic Aberration in the 85 1.4's?



Oct 04, 2008 at 04:43 PM
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p.1 #10 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


What kind of PP did you do on this?


Oct 04, 2008 at 04:44 PM
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p.1 #11 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Well, i changed the picture control from 'standard' to 'vivid' in NX2. Reduced saturation and exposure compensation slightly. Slight smart sharpening on the smaller first pic (100/0.8) Posting the full file now, just converted to .jpg. No nothing done with it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2912516433_db19d2bbc3_o.jpg




Oct 04, 2008 at 05:00 PM
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p.1 #12 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


+1 on the holy 3d batman comment.

this picture defines the word 'pop' when applied to photos IMO!

Rich



Oct 04, 2008 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #13 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Wow - and I thought you could only get that POP with MF! Your shot has me trying to come up with a reason to buy a 85 1.4!


Oct 04, 2008 at 06:19 PM
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p.1 #14 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


This looks better than anything I got from my 85 1.4 wide open when I had it. The difference being a crop camera and no micro adjust I assume. Thanks for posting the full image on this - interesting...........

Marc



Oct 04, 2008 at 07:43 PM
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p.1 #15 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Looking good. I had an 85 and wa slightly disappointed as well. I am now in lovewith the 180 2.8 ED AIS. I have just started shooting with it so I don't have much to show. But here are a few. All I can say is that I love the bokeh of the 180.

http://www.jorgetorralba.com/p91001381



Oct 04, 2008 at 08:23 PM
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p.1 #16 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


I have been nothing but impressed with my 85 f/1.4. I don't use the lense nearly enough, but as soon as I sell all my DX stuff I'm buying a few new lenses and a D700, so I am sure the 85mm will be a better focal length than on my D300 right now. I just end up using my 50mm f/1.4 more often.

Here are a few samples of the 85 f/1.4 mounted to my D200 - not that kind of POP from above, but still no problems with lack of sharpness.

1/100 f/2.0 ISO 400
http://www.mlkimages.com/photos/213543611_Y58LZ-L-2.jpg


1/160 f/2.0 ISO 400
http://www.mlkimages.com/photos/213543226_ctxXv-L-2.jpg


1/200 f/1.6 ISO 400
http://www.mlkimages.com/photos/213543424_JqsTY-L-2.jpg


Michael



Oct 04, 2008 at 09:45 PM
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p.1 #17 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Michael, you've posted that last image a couple times now... that shot has all but convinced me to get the 1.4. I only wish I had an FX camera to throw it on!


Oct 04, 2008 at 10:04 PM
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p.1 #18 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Somehow, the larger image doesn't have the pop the smaller size shows in spade. It seems that it has to do with the higher contrast level of the smaller image.


Oct 04, 2008 at 10:08 PM
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p.1 #19 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Some lovely images Peter and Michael, as much as the price point of the 85mm f/1.8 has me wanting to grab one, there just seems to be a quality to images from the 85 f/1.4 that makes them something special.


Oct 04, 2008 at 10:37 PM
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p.1 #20 · Not impressed by the 85 f1.4.


Marc Kurth wrote:
This looks better than anything I got from my 85 1.4 wide open when I had it. The difference being a crop camera and no micro adjust I assume. Thanks for posting the full image on this - interesting...........

Marc


I haven't done any micro adjustments.. As someone else pointed out, it doesn't look quite as good in full size, but pics seldom do, do they? I always think all my pics look like crap, before i reduce the size by at least 50%.



Oct 04, 2008 at 11:39 PM
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