The UK D700 price - was it the original price when introduced or the price now?
The 5D dropped in price after about 4-6months in the UK so I expect the same to happen when the 5DII has been on the shelves for a while.
httivals wrote:
And given that the UK prices include VAT, what does it say about Nikon's U.S. pricing policies?
Well, since US and Japan prices are roughly the same, probably not to much. Because of the VAT in the UK, I think(as I implied earlier) it speaks more about the UK pricing policies. Excluding VAT, the UK price is $400 -$450 less than the Japan and US prices.
All I can say is that I am glad I don't live in the UK - not a good place to be if you are a Canon shooter. You guys should send a strong protest to Canon UK.
brainiac wrote:
The 5D2 is another matter, and if I were the fellow at Canon taking this decision, I would make the mirror extend out to the very limit to try to get some of us mean b*s**rds to buy more Canon glass.
Haha. I've never been brave enought to say this out loud before, but there it is.
By the way, before anyone goes and sells their 1DsIII, I thought I would bring up something I read concerning the 5DII sensor. One of the ways that canon achieved lower noise with the 5DII sensor was by making the color filter array more transparent so that more light could reach each photosite, thereby increasing efficiency and resulting in less noise. It will be interesting to see if this has any affect on color accuracy and, in particularly, if it results in more washed out or muted colors. OR, perhaps canon simply made a breakthrough of some sort and there is no change in color response or density.
Now, Tariq, don't you know we're not allowed to question the IQ of the 5DII?
The audacity!
Oh, wait- this is the alt forum. I guess it's safe. Most of the fanboys seem to never leave the Canon forum. Whew ......
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Personally, I'm just DYING to see some direct comparisons to the original 5D at ISO 100, (do the tighter sensors compensate for 21 mp?) and also some high-ISO raw pics, without the in-camera processing.
The filters issue is interesting, but would Canon really sacrifice color to gain ISO? On the 5D replacement? That's a stretch. Maybe there's a way of adjusting the chip to compensate?
Well, it's all jun a fun guessing game until we see some careful tests.
Does anyone know if the new 5D MKII needs to be mirror modified like original 5D to fit all alt lenses?
I really don't want to go through that again...
Cableaddict wrote:
The filters issue is interesting, but would Canon really sacrifice color to gain ISO? On the 5D replacement? That's a stretch. Maybe there's a way of adjusting the chip to compensate?
Well, it's all jun a fun guessing game until we see some careful tests.
I doubt it very seriously. I'm sure they have figured it out.
Paul Yi wrote:
Does anyone know if the new 5D MKII needs to be mirror modified like original 5D to fit all alt lenses?
I really don't want to go through that again...
The mirror is the same as the original 5D from what I have read.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
By the way, before anyone goes and sells their 1DsIII, I thought I would bring up something I read concerning the 5DII sensor. One of the ways that canon achieved lower noise with the 5DII sensor was by making the color filter array more transparent so that more light could reach each photosite, thereby increasing efficiency and resulting in less noise. It will be interesting to see if this has any affect on color accuracy and, in particularly, if it results in more washed out or muted colors. OR, perhaps canon simply made a breakthrough of some sort and there is no change in color response or density....Show more →
A very good point as the reason stated by the manufacturer of one MF digital back for their superior colour reproduction over DSLR's( and worse high ISO performance) was the higher density of the colour filters over the sensors.
shirozina wrote:
A very good point as the reason stated by the manufacturer of one MF digital back for their superior colour reproduction over DSLR's( and worse high ISO performance) was the higher density of the colour filters over the sensors.
Could this be the reason for the outstanding colors and ugly noise on the A900?
"My favourite UK dealer has some nice deals on 5D2's"
Blimey brainiac, I went hotfoot over to the link you kindly gave me, expecting to find the 5D2 body at £1999 or something! (which to be fair it probably will be next year). Have to admit the option of buying the 5D2 with free grip and battery is very tempting.
Tell you what, if the US congress approve their $700 bn Wall Street bank rescue then I'll start saving for that 5D2.
Shirozina, all my lenses performed better on the 1ds3 than on my 5d, including my zooms, non of them are clearly outresolved by the 25% more resolution. The 5d2 wil also have features like live-view which will allow better focus accuracy and better high ISO. These are important for better IQ.
If your concernet about bokeh and resolution I wouldnt recommend cz50 or R50/2 and get a new ZeissF/E 50mm with the 9blad aperture.
Andi Dietrich wrote:
Shirozina, all my lenses performed better on the 1ds3 than on my 5d, including my zooms, non of them are clearly outresolved by the 25% more resolution. The 5d2 wil also have features like live-view which will allow better focus accuracy and better high ISO. These are important for better IQ.
If your concernet about bokeh and resolution I wouldnt recommend cz50 or R50/2 and get a new ZeissF/E 50mm with the 9blad aperture.
If my 24mm TS-E has soft edges and corners (but is sharp in the center) I can't see the edges becoming any better with nearly double the pixels. BTW where did the 25% figure come from - I thought it was 50% resolution increase with a doubling of the pixels? I can focus perfectly accuratley with my series 1 focusing screen and as I shoot at F8-F11 I can't see live view bringing much advantage - in other words my pictures are not degraded by focusing issues. I never shoot above 200 ISO so high speed performance is not a concern. Thanks for the advice on the ZF 50 but if I shoot wide open how do 9 aperture blades make a difference and with my CZ50 the bokeh is hugley better at F2.8 when the mere 6 aperture blades are in the optical path than at 1.7 when the optical pathis perfectly circular.
Most of the fanboys seem to never leave the Canon forum. Whew ......