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p.36 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


eosfun wrote:
And you will be able to hold in your own hands and have the EOSfun from it at an amazing price as a result of incredible engineering and great marketing!


Actually, I personally find the 'marketing' around here to be horridly simplistic, lacking in several key areas (substance being one of them), and overtly annoying in several key areas...

eosfun wrote:
But I know we are photographers, with the love for light (and bodies )


You actually take pictures? C'mon now, I think you're pulling our legs! I'll post one if you post one!



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:31 PM
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p.36 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


That is probably why canon crippled the 5DII - and let's be honest it would NOT have cost much more to put the more advanced AF or a faster framerate at sRAW in this body but it would have killed their 50D sales, which who knows, may be a more profitable body for Canon on a per-camera basis.

It's not "crippling" a camera merely not to include features present in a higher-priced model. A Toyota Camry is not a "crippled" Lexus.

The only camera Canon actually "crippled" was the 300D, which actually had 10D-level features in its firmware that Canon had turned off (many of which a hacked version of the firmware could be turned back on).



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:31 PM
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p.36 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


For those of us not printing large ads for sides of buses, if the AF is not as accurate as we would like, particularly in low light, a better file is meaningless and will not happen.

and everyone else that doesn't use AF to shoot everything or finds it accurate enough will pleased with every other improved feature of the camera. Sure, I'd love the same af as my 1dsmkII, but at the price, I'm not complaining. If you want to see horrible AF, try any of the recent medium format cameras to be released. They're throwbacks to the 1990s...



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:32 PM
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p.36 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Jeff wrote:
You actually take pictures? C'mon now, I think you're pulling our legs! I'll post one if you post one!


Count me in as well



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:33 PM
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p.36 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


No one is asking for 1D type AF. We were surely expecting a reworked AF like the 50D and that didn't happen. Shame on Canon for trying to milk us.


Sep 17, 2008 at 02:34 PM
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p.36 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Acutally, the 5D is unique in that it uses a separate microprocessor to control the AF, unlike the 40 and 50D which use the Digic chips.

Evan



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:34 PM
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p.36 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


From RG:

"The 5D Mark II does include two changes in its AF system, relative to the 5D: it now has the ability to detect scene colour temperature and light flicker, then incorporate that as part of the camera's autotofocus calculation, plus AF Microadjustment, to compensate for focus calibration error in the camera body or combination of body and attached lens, has been added."



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:34 PM
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p.36 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


PasiM wrote:
Amongst all these whiners i see EOSfun very refreshing exeption.
Maybe it“s just because we europeans have different type of attitude to life, not so worried all the time...


Not everyone is whining - & not all of us are uptight! But I agree with your general point, the reaction to this announcement has been surprisingly overwrought & vitriolic.



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:35 PM
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p.36 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Ok this camera to me is exactly what i want.

Now the important question... Any idea when this will be shipping?

Chris



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:37 PM
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p.36 #10 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread



This makes me even more in love with my D3..



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:37 PM
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p.36 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Sure, because on the weekends we shoot our kids at swim meets and soccer games and we don't want to drop the cash on a 1 series, or a 50D also ;-)

Daniel Heineck wrote:
Lastly, and maybe I'm weird, but why would wedding pros, landscape dudes (liveview is probably best here), etc need an absolutely crushing af system?




Sep 17, 2008 at 02:38 PM
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p.36 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


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Yes - but I am afraid that all three of them decided they loved me and I took pity and married them all. Big o' me, don't you think?


Married them all You are a GOD!



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:39 PM
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p.36 #13 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


chris78cpr wrote:
Ok this camera to me is exactly what i want.

Now the important question... Any idea when this will be shipping?

Chris


Says November. Let“s see. I waited my 1D3 5 months after release!



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:39 PM
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p.36 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Jeff wrote:
He posts so much, it becomes quite hard to overlook without an 'IGNORE' button.

Develop one of those Richard, and we wouldn't be having this conversation!

Respectfully,

Jeff


GOOD LORD there is a "hide me" button now!!!

Just when I thought I would leave these forums because of that special someone. Bye bye, you know who you are!

Long live FM forums and its developers!


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Sep 17, 2008 at 02:42 PM
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p.36 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Just order two. Can't wait.


Sep 17, 2008 at 02:43 PM
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p.36 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


eosfun wrote
Tschuss!


Žaš er meš tveim punktum ofanį, sko.

Og viltu vera svo vęnn aš tala bara ensku ķ žessu spjalli? Betra fyrir alla.



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:43 PM
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p.36 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I think this new one has everything that most of us realistically expected it would, and its actually cheaper by a few hundred than I thought. We hoped for the addition of a new AF system that is better than the 50D, but not quite as good as a 1D. That didn't happen. Oh well I guess. My main gripe...and maybe its an odd one, but why the heck can't they spread out those 9 AF points MUCH further. I don't own a 5D, but I've used a friend's several times. I loved the files but man I just do not like focus/recompose. I'm used to putting a point on the exact spot I want with my 1D, and with it I'm even sometimes wishing those 45 were spread out a little more. It was awkward for me shooting with the 5D because of this. I can't remember if I've read a decent technical explanation as to why these 9 points can not be spread out further to cover a bigger % of the frame to make them more useful in composing. Is there one?


Sep 17, 2008 at 02:43 PM
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p.36 #18 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Wow. HD video. This is a good answer to the newer Nikons.


Sep 17, 2008 at 02:44 PM
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p.36 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


is says on the canon site this: "High performance with 3.9 fps continuous shooting, new shutter with a durability of 150,000 cycles and improved weather-resistant body."

So where is everyone getting that there is no weather-resistant body?

And, Rob Galbraith says:

"Canon USA's Westfall says the reason for that is the "6 Assist AF points plus center point were deemed to provide a higher level of performance for AI Servo AF than the center point-only arrangement of the [40D and] 50D." Given that we've previously found the overall autofocus performance of the 5D to be decent, while the 40D's tracking capability has been erratic at best, Canon has likely chosen the better of the two AF systems for the 5D Mark II."

Now I've been reading English my entire life, in fact I speak it every day because its my native language but if someone wants to clarify for me, isn't Galbraith saying that they chose the better autofocus for this camera with the intention of making servo better?




Sep 17, 2008 at 02:44 PM
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p.36 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


ichiro17 wrote:
So where is everyone getting that there is no weather-resistant body?

isn't Galbraith saying that they chose the better autofocus for this camera with the intention of making servo better?

I think the discontent is arising from the lack of weather-proofing (w-resistance is not quite the same ) & I think the complaints about the AF relate mainly to the number of focus points ...

In other words, your English comprehension is just fine, it's just that we have a demanding set of folks around here.



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:49 PM
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