I spent 5 minutes in Sony Vegas & removed them. Admittedly I'm new to video, new to Sony Vegas so this is a first attempt. But it wasn't too hard & I'm sure if I did a bit more research it could be improved. But it wasn't rocket science.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Hey Brainiac, can you post an example from the 5DII?
Not yet! I may be speaking out of my oratory, but from everything I've seen so far, 5D2 results are as good as identical to the 1Ds3 at all isos, so I'm guessing 5D2 users will say exactly the same things we heard about the 1Ds3: "per pixel sharpness is inferior and images aren't nearly twice as sharp". First, make sure you're not criticising the bandwidth limit of the lens, and secondly remember that a 29% increase in linear sharpness isn't a quantum leap, but marginal progress. Your 2nd link to the crop of the van in traffic illustrates the resolution increase perfectly. Moire is all about interference: at one distance a pattern will trigger moire in the 5D2, and at another distance it will trigger moire in the 5D. Across a large range of subject matter, moire will be less intrusive on the 5D2 since the pixel grid is finer. Many subjects don't contain much detail at the frequency of the sensor. The right brick wall, at the right distance, can look about the same on a D30 as on a P25. Meanwhile, look at the text on the back of the van. Looks like about 29% better resolution to me.
Brainiac, in order to achieve the expected 29% finer detail, would not the per pixel quality have to be the same between the 5DII vs 5D. That would seem to be your underlying assumption which I think is not a foregone conclusion.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Brainiac, in order to achieve the expected 29% finer detail, would not the per pixel quality have to be the same between the 5DII vs 5D.
Yes, and to test it you would need to ensure that what filled the 4368 by 2912 pixels in some part of the 5D2 frame was exactly what filled the 4368x2912 pixels of the 5D frame, i.e. a 29% wider lens on the 5D2. It's very hard to assess per pixel quality without looking at the same image data, because of moire and psychology, so the best way to try to assess the 5D2 your way would be to use a zoom which had consistent and adequate performance at both focal lengths at f5.6. You would also need to find some way to ensure that you had zoomed to a 5616/4368 increase in magnification, which is quite tricky really. Once you've done all that and pixel-peeped, then you can declare that the per pixel quality of the 5D2 is 3% worse than that of the 5D or whatever, and therefore the 5D2 is really only 27% better than the 5D, instead of 28.6% better and everyone will understand precisely what you mean and will be able to ignore the thoroughly misleading practice of uprezzing crops like the ones you have just linked to, which show very adequately the real scale of the improvement.
And note, btw, that the 5D2 reveals that this van model is called 'expert', not 'repent', not 'emport', and not 'rupert'. I can't believe that such a tangible increase in resolution is really only 29% or less.
What the heck does "per pixel" quality actually mean, anyway? A pixel is an image atom ("atom" as the Greeks originally coined the term) that's going to have a hue and an intensity.
It seems to me that any comparison of the resolution of two images comprised by pixels of two different sizes must necessarily be on a "multi-pixel" basis. An image doesn't exist on a "per pixel" basis, nor can resolution of two images be compared on a "per pixel" basis.
Otherwise, it's like comparing water to alcohol on a "per atom" basis. You have to consider at least a single molecule or you don't even have "water" or "alcohol."
Got mine yesterday, and my shoot for today got canceled. Love it so far, but all I've been able to take shots of is my 30D i'm putting in the B&S Forum:
Hope to be able to put up some real shots soon. I will say that the shutter release does feel a bit mushy compared to the 30D, but it won't take long to get used to. The sound is quiet, and the screen is just phenomenal. This new body will serve me well for a really long time.
Out of curiosity, were you fully naked when you, or someone, shot your avatar? Maybe you should have an animated gif that pans down as far as your belly button, just to scare us. A good first test of 1080p ;-)
I don't know about the few that aren't amazed by the quality of the images of well done photos by the 5DII, but I am amazed. There seems to be a fine quality that reminds me of shooting 6X7 and even my smaller prints with my 4X5. Very nice tonal qualities.
These pictures are "borrowed" from a Swedish photo forum. They are shot by Mikael Risedal who is a professional photographer, and has been testing cameras and lenses since 1978!
In his thread he has been using 50/1,4 and 100/2,0 plus the 24-105/4L.
Well, I finally found a 5D Mark II. I had an Amazon order in since 18 September, but no shipping date as of yesterday. I was doing some Christmas shopping at the Columbia Mall (Maryland) on Saturday, and dropped by Ritz Camera. I asked them if they had any 5D Mark II's in stock, with the expectation that the answer would be no. Instead, I was told they had two in stock
After the battery charged, I tried taking some night pictures to see if I could generate any black dots. My subect was very bright street lights against a very dark background. I shot with default camera image settings, and in RAW/Jpeg-L mode, with a 24-105L lens. All of the Jpeg images had very small black dots to the right of the bright lights. None of the RAW files had these artifacts when using DPP. I tried fiddling with the camera settings to see if any particular combination would cause the black dots to vanish. They did indeed go away, and despite shooting for the rest of the evening, I could not get the black dots to reappear.
So, black dots appear to be a non-issue for me. Image quality is very high, which is the real reason I purchased the camera. Enough lab work, and now on to actual photography....
Dave King wrote:
Well, I finally found a 5D Mark II. I had an Amazon order in since 18 September, but no shipping date as of yesterday. I was doing some Christmas shopping at the Columbia Mall (Maryland) on Saturday, and dropped by Ritz Camera. I asked them if they had any 5D Mark II's in stock, with the expectation that the answer would be no. Instead, I was told they had two in stock
After the battery charged, I tried taking some night pictures to see if I could generate any black dots. My subect was very bright street lights against a very dark background. I shot with default camera image settings, and in RAW/Jpeg-L mode, with a 24-105L lens. All of the Jpeg images had very small black dots to the right of the bright lights. None of the RAW files had these artifacts when using DPP. I tried fiddling with the camera settings to see if any particular combination would cause the black dots to vanish. They did indeed go away, and despite shooting for the rest of the evening, I could not get the black dots to reappear.
So, black dots appear to be a non-issue for me. Image quality is very high, which is the real reason I purchased the camera. Enough lab work, and now on to actual photography.......Show more →
Congrats on the new camera They do seem to be available, it's just a matter of tracking them down.
I was one of those who stated that I did not have the black dots but after repeated tries to reproduce the issue I detected a few small ones at 100-400%. Since they showed up on images I normally would not be taking, especially at that crop level,
it becomes almost a non issue for me.
However, I do hope Canon comes out with a firmware fix soon especially for others that do take the images where the dots appear to ruin the image.
So I think I've decided to cancel my 5d II order. With the black dot issue and the banding issue I read about, I may just save my cash and get a used 1dmII. I think it's a little too much to spend for something that might not be right out of the box.
