RDKirk wrote:
You can't "patch" firmware at the camera. You replace it. The code could be patched, but what you do in the camera is replace the entire thing with the patch included.
yes, you donwload a firmware from canon (there is always at least on patch, so at some point in time one should be posted and the guy bases his patch off of that) then you download the patch code from the guy and it patches the firmware you got from canon as well as bumps up its internal # (to force it to work for people who have already put new firmware on their camera) and then uplaod the patched firmware to your camera.
skibum5 wrote:
although at 4fps you tend to no overlow the buffer as easily
i used some extreme III 8GB new edition and didn't get a slow down in a half of soccer
It depends on a number of things, such as how the camera processes a particular image, and so on. If you shoot RAW + High quality JPG's at the same time you would have problems.
skibum5 wrote:
yes, you donwload a firmware from canon (there is always at least on patch, so at some point in time one should be posted and the guy bases his patch off of that) then you download the patch code from the guy and it patches the firmware you got from canon as well as bumps up its internal # (to force it to work for people who have already put new firmware on their camera) and then uplaod the patched firmware to your camera.
You notice though, that the firmware mods for the Powershots remains on the flash card, and is removed with that card.
Pretty clever, and possibly can be done here as well.
Mel Gross wrote:
It depends on a number of things, such as how the camera processes a particular image, and so on. If you shoot RAW + High quality JPG's at the same time you would have problems.
i did. i gues i was doing a lot of one shooting or just a few shots since 4fps was a little slow to fire away like mad and perhaps it was just vagaries of that particular game too. the action tended to not come close as much as usual too.
skibum5 wrote:
i did. i gues i was doing a lot of one shooting or just a few shots since 4fps was a little slow to fire away like mad and perhaps it was just vagaries of that particular game too. the action tended to not come close as much as usual too.
The other thing to consider is that there are two versions of the Extreme III card out there.
There is the older model, which is slow by today's standards, and is the cheaper one.
then there is the newer 30MBs version, which is more expensive.
The first will fail. But the second, will likely work pretty well, except under the worst conditions.
Yes this is a great project and if it would get don trough there great then I would simply donate the money from canonhack.com to where they wanted.
The way I see it canonhack.com is just a way to get more attention to the problem. The more attention the more likely that it's fixed. Either trough chdk or not.
You notice though, that the firmware mods for the Powershots remains on the flash card, and is removed with that card.
I'm not sure of what you think you mean by that. Are you saying that you have to copy auxilliary software to each flash card used in the Powershot? That's certainly not a satisfactory solution.
yes, you donwload a firmware from canon (there is always at least on patch, so at some point in time one should be posted and the guy bases his patch off of that) then you download the patch code from the guy and it patches the firmware you got from canon as well as bumps up its internal # (to force it to work for people who have already put new firmware on their camera) and then uplaod the patched firmware to your camera.
That could be legal if it really works as you've described it.
If it's just replacing the file with a patched version of the same file (that is to say, if it actually has standalone code on the card), it would be a copyright violation.
Mel Gross wrote:
You notice though, that the firmware mods for the Powershots remains on the flash card, and is removed with that card.
Pretty clever, and possibly can be done here as well.
That's the best of both worlds.
Not really. When I installed the code on my S3 I found out it was an interpreter that runs whenever the camera is not in standby. The code dropped my battery life to less than 1/3 of normal. I promptly reformatted my card to remove the code and battery life returned to normal.
Even little things that have already been worked out for a later version. For example, the 40D and later, uses a single file folder on the CF card for all the pictures recorded, unlike earlier versions which incremented the folder name every 100 pics. This is a small thing but would be a really handy improvement to my 20D which I still use daily.
It's pretty expensive to keep a developer's "head in" a set of code that's no longer in development or being sold, and it provides not a dime of profit to support software the company is no longer selling just to keep people from having to buy the new software. That's why every software company ends support of defunct applications sooner or later.
What sense does it make for Canon to update your 20D so that you never have to replace it? Goodwill? Good grief. Go to the Salvation Army for that kind of goodwill.
Canon has to make a profit, and you're talking about them spending development money to prevent making a profit.
RDKirk wrote:
It's pretty expensive to keep a developer's "head in" a set of code that's no longer in development or being sold, and it provides not a dime of profit to support software the company is no longer selling just to keep people from having to buy the new software. That's why every software company ends support of defunct applications sooner or later.
What sense does it make for Canon to update your 20D so that you never have to replace it? Goodwill? Good grief. Go to the Salvation Army for that kind of goodwill.
Canon has to make a profit, and you're talking about them spending development money to prevent making a profit....Show more →
I started a response to this, and then I realized...you must be in management at General Motors, and therefore really see no value in goodwill. Goodwill makes people want to come back. Turn your back on customers, and eventually they turn their backs on you, and you're out of business.
Microsoft continued with updates--not just patches--for Windows 2000, Windows XP, Office 2000, Office 2002, Office 2003, and other programs, long after they had been replaced with new versions. Windows 2000 updates are posted regularly even now--after there have been two subsequent operating systems replacing that one. I have no hesitation about buying a Microsoft product, as I know it will be supported for as long as I need it. Indeed, I'll buy Microsoft any time that company has a product of a type I'm looking for, over a competitor's product.
OTOH, Adobe, Canon, and HP pull the plug on support the day after they announce a replacement product. I buy Adobe, Canon, or HP only if there is no alternative.
And I make regular contributions to the Salvation Army.
Mel Gross wrote:
It's fast enough for video, but just barely.
How do you figure that?
Canon states 8Mbs cards are fast enough to capture 5DII HD video. Since a 12 min 5DII HD video is about 4GB, this equates to ~5.556 MBs. This approximate card write data rate can be verified by a few unmodified 5DII clips that exist (ie no further compression).
Unaltered clips by Vincent Laforet on Canon's site (links now dead)
MVI_0492.MOV - (59,959,511 / 12 seconds = 4,996,625.92 = 4.996 MBs
MVI_0795.MOV - (86,032,331 / 17 seconds = 5,060,725.35 = 5.061 MBs
Could you be thinking of the 38.6 Mbs data rate? This equates to 4.825 MBs. 8MBs should be more than enough for video, and the 20-45MBs data rate for Extreme III-IV cards is only needed to lower the refresh time for 'still' bursts.
Are you implying that Adobe, Canon and HP will be out of business before too long because they don't appear to believe in goodwill?
burychka wrote:
I started a response to this, and then I realized...you must be in management at General Motors, and therefore really see no value in goodwill. Goodwill makes people want to come back. Turn your back on customers, and eventually they turn their backs on you, and you're out of business.
Microsoft continued with updates--not just patches--for Windows 2000, Windows XP, Office 2000, Office 2002, Office 2003, and other programs, long after they had been replaced with new versions. Windows 2000 updates are posted regularly even now--after there have been two subsequent operating systems replacing that one. I have no hesitation about buying a Microsoft product, as I know it will be supported for as long as I need it. Indeed, I'll buy Microsoft any time that company has a product of a type I'm looking for, over a competitor's product.
OTOH, Adobe, Canon, and HP pull the plug on support the day after they announce a replacement product. I buy Adobe, Canon, or HP only if there is no alternative.
And I make regular contributions to the Salvation Army....Show more →
AnthonyRhoades wrote:
I'd love to, but ritz won't ship me mine.
I gave up on Ritz, and called around to some smaller camera shops. Mine is on the FedEx truck now and will be here tomorrow morning. Try cameralandny.com and see if you have any luck. You'll have to call them to find out.
I had no problem with my Ritz order. I placed it in one of the store-fronts on 10/09, they charged my card on 10/14, it shipped on 12/1, and I picked it up at the store on 12/4.
I can't speak to the internet orders except that the internet support could not give me a status on the order anywhere along the way. But then, neither could the store until it shipped.
