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p.226 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Gil_W wrote:
Skibum, that was a nice write up on your experience with the 5D mkII and the 300 f/2.8. I have not shot that combo yet but that's my next trick. I've gotten up to my 200 f/2.8 and so far it's been good. Seems that AI Servo works fairly well so far.

I tried the center point expansion and don't seem to have had the luck as you with it. Seem to have more keepers with out using it (shooting deer). Perhaps I need to test it out some more but even on my mkIIn I was not fond of it
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it was a cloudy day, but the cam did seem to render it a bit cool.

it does seem my lenses do a vary a bit in terms of ideal MF adjustment, mostly reasonably, close although my macro is quite out there

yeah, i don't know if it was turning off the mistakenly set IS that helped the most or the center expansion, perhaps the expansion didn't do much, unfortunately I didn't note exactly when I switched it on.

when I used someon'es 1dmkiin they had the center expansion on and everything was good, not sure if the expansion made any difference though, but it certainyl didn't seem to hurt.

anwyay, back to watching women's NCAA college cup.....
too bad they decided to ban cameras there



Dec 07, 2008 at 02:38 PM
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p.226 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I'm a PC guy, but I have a Dell laptop with the "glossy" screen, and I can say this about it: 1. Thank goodness I don't use that computer for photo editing.

Amen to that. I have several laptops, including a generation-1 IBM thinkpad, and a new HP tablet. The HP's great as far as processor, memory and disk go, but the very shiny screen just drives me nuts. If there's one thing I don't like to look at when working on an image, or even on an office document, it's **myself**. I really hate it. I'm probably going to unload the damn thing on ebay. Very disappointing.



Dec 07, 2008 at 02:38 PM
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p.226 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


-rce- wrote:
I was just playing with my 40D and 5D mark II. The half-press on the 5dII is really mushy by comparison.

Does anyone else feel this?

Personally, I don't care for it. I like the more solid/defined half-press.


it is squishy so it's a little weird when using ai servo, since it feels almost no different from when you are tracking or not, but not the end of the world.



Dec 07, 2008 at 02:38 PM
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p.226 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobbytan:

It can be used either way as Gil_W has noted.


floris:

I have not. I've only had a 10D and now the 40D and 5dII. Could be. Maybe others will chime in.

Thanks,



Dec 07, 2008 at 02:39 PM
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p.226 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


If anyone wants a 5D2 and is willing to pay sales tax, check out Best Buy. I saw a thread on dpreview and checked out the local Best Buys using the web. There were none close by that had the 5D2, but there was one about 50 miles away (okay, those of you out west may consider 50 miles close by) that had them in stock. I can not afford to get one for another 4 or 5 months or I would be on the road and not typing this. None are abailable on the web for purchase but you can reserve one at a store.


Dec 07, 2008 at 03:01 PM
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burychka wrote:
I'm a PC guy, but I have a Dell laptop with the "glossy" screen, and I can say this about it:
1. Thank goodness I don't use that computer for photo editing. Turning up the brightness to compensate for room reflections would be a major conflict with calibrating and profiling a monitor.
2. "Getting used to it" seems to mean changing your seat or turning sideways or closing the blinds. I had to get used to that, except for the closing the blinds thing, for weak wireless signals. Thank goodness I could get a repeater for the wireless. Glossy screen is still
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I've had a glossy screen laptop since I bought the original MacBook in May of 2006, and while I won't say that I'm wild about the glossy screen, I did get used to it. And by "getting used to it", I don't mean moving myself, the screen, etc - I mean I stopped looking at the reflection, and started looking "through" it. Some people are more sensitive to the reflections than others, though, and I don't know where I fall on that spectrum.

It's like driving in a very light rain - I won't necessarily turn my wipers on immediately, because I'm always looking WAY down the road, and the rain has to get pretty bad before it bothers me as much as the wipers sweeping through my field of vision. This drives my fiancee nuts, because she can't stop looking at the spots on the windshield (but she's easily distractable, in general).

I don't tend to see a laptop (and, more precisely, the laptop's screen) as something I would be doing "color critical" work on. My laptop is temporary storage for my pictures while I'm on vacation, with all the real work done on my desktop at home. I'm more concerned with checking focus than color while I'm on the road, but I do realize that there are working pros for whom that isn't really an option.

That said, I've read several pro's accounts of their misgivings about the glossy screens on the new MacBook Pro, and they generally end up feeling pretty favorably towards the machines, and the screens, after a period of use.

It will be interesting to see how people react to the new 24" LED Cinema Display, as it's the first glossy standalone display from Apple. Those that don't care for the glossy screens on the newer iMacs will probably have a similar reaction to the new Cinema Display, but it will be interesting to see how the LED backlight effects things, as the brightness of the LED backlight on the new laptops does seem to make a difference in the overall impression they make.



Dec 07, 2008 at 03:52 PM
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p.226 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


thrice wrote:
You just press the "AF-ON" button next to the * button on the back to focus in video mode. You also can't use the viewfinder, as the mirror has to be flipped up to record video. So it's all live-view.

What he said. Also there is a gotcha that I got to see first hand mentioned in the manual - the brightness can bloom substantially while trying to attain lock. The manual makes it seem it's a screen effect but it does indeed come across in the movie. But my God is this feature cool as hell! I didn't have too much trouble tracking with focus by hand. I imagine if I do it enough and sufficiently motivated I could get pretty good at it. I also didn't have a lot of luck with face recognition but admittedly it was dim fluorescent lighting when I tried it. I am puzzled by the slowness of the focus in live view. You get this little rectangle and it will struggle for many seconds to get lock when it finally flashes green and beeps. My old Minolta D7 used such a focusing system and it was pretty snappy at it (relatively speaking of course but certainly not several seconds). I checked it and my memory was accurate - the old D7 is much quicker to acquire focus.



Dec 07, 2008 at 04:03 PM
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bobsofpa wrote:
If anyone wants a 5D2 and is willing to pay sales tax, check out Best Buy. I saw a thread on dpreview and checked out the local Best Buys using the web. There were none close by that had the 5D2, but there was one about 50 miles away (okay, those of you out west may consider 50 miles close by) that had them in stock. I can not afford to get one for another 4 or 5 months or I would be on the road and not typing this. None are abailable on the web for purchase but you
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Well I'll be darned. Our local Best Buy had two 5D2 bodies in stock...the sales personnel didn't even know they were there. Right after seeing this post, I checked the website and saw it was in stock at our local store.

Now they have only one.



Dec 07, 2008 at 04:30 PM
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p.226 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


RDKirk wrote:
Well I'll be darned. Our local Best Buy had two 5D2 bodies in stock...the sales personnel didn't even know they were there. Right after seeing this post, I checked the website and saw it was in stock at our local store.

Now they have only one.


Congrats and welcome to the Black Dot/Red Blob club

Seriously, it's a great little camera and I'm enjoying the heck out of mine. Hope you enjoy it.
Gil



Dec 07, 2008 at 04:57 PM
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I went out today and shot video and stills with a 100-400 on a wimberly. I have a very sharp copy of the 100-400 I found the af a little off with the 1dmkII and 40D shooting sports. It was stellar with the 5DII. VIDEO it was good for set plays actually excellent. Following action so so.
skibum5 wrote:
Initial 5DMkII Sport Shooting Thoughts:

so I got to shoot half a match of men's NCAA soccer today.

originally, before release, I harped a lot on the 5dmkii's old AF,shutter,mirror. I guessed the AF would be the most annoying thing for sports, followed by mirror blackout, fps and then shutter lag. I have changed my mind about some things and certianyl that ordering.

I went out today and shot video and stills with a 100-400 on a wimberly. I have a very sharp copy of the 100-400 I found the af a little off with the 1dmkII and 40D shooting sports. It was
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Dec 07, 2008 at 05:55 PM
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p.226 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


floris wrote:
Have you used a 5D? The 5D is 'mushier' than the 20D I know. Perhaps the 5D II uses the same shutter button as the 5D?


The shutter button on my 5D was the worst feeling shutter button on any camera I have ever used. It was the single thing I really disliked about that camera and I thought at the time mine must just have been defective but now believe that it must have been the norm.



Dec 07, 2008 at 08:48 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
The shutter button on my 5D was the worst feeling shutter button on any camera I have ever used. It was the single thing I really disliked about that camera and I thought at the time mine must just have been defective but now believe that it must have been the norm.


Normal for the 5D, and (much to your chagrin no doubt) normal for the 5D II as well. I wish they had stuck with the on/off button from the 5D, but they didn't, so I really don't like the on/off button on the 5D II, but that's REALLY nitpicking.



Dec 07, 2008 at 09:08 PM
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WilliamG wrote:
Normal for the 5D, and (much to your chagrin no doubt) normal for the 5D II as well. I wish they had stuck with the on/off button from the 5D, but they didn't, so I really don't like the on/off button on the 5D II, but that's REALLY nitpicking.


I opted out of waiting for the 5DII but that is disappointing to hear.



Dec 07, 2008 at 09:15 PM
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>>The shutter button on my 5D was the worst feeling shutter button on any camera I have ever used. It was the single thing I really disliked about that camera and I thought at the time mine must just have been defective but now believe that it must have been the norm. Normal for the 5D, and (much to your chagrin no doubt) normal for the 5D II as well. I wish they had stuck with the on/off button from the 5D, but they didn't, so I really don't like the on/off button on the 5D II, but that's REALLY nitpicking....Show more

What? C'mon, those are purely subjective points that may or may not be important to anyone else.

The feel of the 20D shutter release was no different, the sound of the shutter was just harsher...and a heck of a lot people complained bitterly about it at the time...funny how little time it takes for people to get nostalgic for "good old days" that they were griping about at the time.



Dec 07, 2008 at 09:49 PM
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RDKirk wrote:
What? C'mon, those are purely subjective points that may or may not be important to anyone else.

The feel of the 20D shutter release was no different, the sound of the shutter was just harsher...and a heck of a lot people complained bitterly about it at the time...funny how little time it takes for people to get nostalgic for "good old days" that they were griping about at the time.


On my 5D at least, it was sometimes very difficult to predict when the camera would actually fire, the feedback of the shutter button was so bad. I would often release the shutter button accidentally in fact. Even after years of using the 5D extensively, this was still the case. No other camera in my thirty year history of shooting was this poor including Nikons, other Canons, Olympus, Pentax, Minolta, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Rollei you name it. If my experience is the norm for the 5D, then it should have been fixed for the 5DII or does Canon think a shutter button with good user feedback is something reserved for the 1 series only?



Dec 07, 2008 at 10:09 PM
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RDKirk wrote:
What? C'mon, those are purely subjective points that may or may not be important to anyone else.

The feel of the 20D shutter release was no different, the sound of the shutter was just harsher...and a heck of a lot people complained bitterly about it at the time...funny how little time it takes for people to get nostalgic for "good old days" that they were griping about at the time.


I don't find anything wrong with the 5D's shutter button.



Dec 07, 2008 at 10:09 PM
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I also have never had an issue with the 5D, 1DS II or III


Dec 07, 2008 at 10:11 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
On my 5D at least, it was sometimes very difficult to predict when the camera would actually fire, the feedback of the shutter button was so bad. I would often release the shutter button accidentally in fact. Even after years of using the 5D extensively, this was still the case. No other camera in my thirty year history of shooting was this poor including Nikons, other Canons, Olympus, Pentax, Minolta, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Rollei you name it. If my experience is the norm for the 5D, then it should have been fixed for the 5DII or does Canon think a
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What are you saying, that the difference between the half position and release isn't different enough? Or that the whole action is too soft?



Dec 07, 2008 at 10:11 PM
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Mel Gross wrote:
What are you saying, that the difference between the half position and release isn't different enough? Or that the whole action is too soft?


Yes, on my 5D at least, there was practically no feedback or feel difference between a half press and actually releasing the shutter.



Dec 07, 2008 at 10:14 PM
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AnthonyRhoades wrote:
I also have never had an issue with the 5D, 1DS II or III


Do you notice any difference in the feel of the shutter button between these three cameras?



Dec 07, 2008 at 10:16 PM
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