You may as well say that it's a conspiracy to drive us towards Nikon and Sony!
rsg_1 wrote:
I think this delay and hype is a ploy by Canon to force us to upgrade to a 1D or 1Ds or to spend the money we set aside for the 5DMkII on new glass.
I downloaded the new DPP and played around with the akihabaranews raw files last night. ISO 3200 converted in DPP, no sharpening, transferred to PS. In PS, Noise Ninja showed a noise index of only 22, which is what I get with ISO 400 and 800 on the 30D.
Not a scientific test at all, but I just wanted to see what it could do, and it's looking very good so far.
But, it's not uncommon for initial shipments to be delayed for a week or two.
People have been expecting this now for the second half of November. If it's available the beginning of December, it's not much of a delay. Certainly not enough to cause people to buy something else.
It's very possible that the pent up demand was more than Canon bargained for, and delayed a small bit to get more cameras produced, and into the first shipment, so that they wouldn't have to rush out another too quickly, which would cost them more to do.
Unfortunately, there is no "tounge-in-cheek" emoticon. If you saw my earlier post about Chuck Westfall's comment; he did say by end of year. The 5DMkII is not exactly something you necessarily buy for Christmas. For this amount of money, most people (the serious amateur or pro) know they need one for some very specific use. Therefore timing is not a real issue. What is the issue is that people have been waiting nearly 3 years for this camera and are tired of waiting.
The 3 years we've been waiting shouldn't be an issue. Another week or two is meaningless in the face of three years.
Actually, 18 months. We've been waiting 18 months. no one expected a new camera before the first 18 months.
Even so, a week or two shouldn't be an issue.
What I've been saying is that until the camera is in hand, no one should be making plans for its use. One can never count on exact delivery dates for anything.
Certainly not enough to cause people to buy something else.
Unless they didn't have much of a clue to what they really needed or wanted in the first place. I used to make my kids make up a priority list and wait 30 days, then re-assess their priorities.
Actually, 18 months. We've been waiting 18 months. no one expected a new camera before the first 18 months.
And when it didn't show up after 18 months, they should have folded their arms to wait another 18 months.
Well I called Amazon and this time got someone in India, completely clueless He said he can't see anything about the camera period. I guess when I got thru to the people in Virginia they had access to a better tool set then the off shore support people. I'm leaving for Colombia on the 23rd so I really hope this makes it this week but it's not looking good
RDKirk wrote:
Unless they didn't have much of a clue to what they really needed or wanted in the first place. I used to make my kids make up a priority list and wait 30 days, then re-assess their priorities.
And when it didn't show up after 18 months, they should have folded their arms to wait another 18 months.
It's a matter of thinking, "I've waited 18 months, another week or two won't make a difference.
As I've said, there's never a guarantee of exact delivery dates. Any number of reasons could be responsible.
Where did Chuck Westfall give an ETA by the end of the year? He has been conspicuously absent the past year (basically since he said that Canon were investigating the 50 f1.2L issues, hardly heard from him since then)... except what Rob Galbraith reported just 2 weeks ago today, saying that Chuck had indicated that Canon USA are on track for end of November : http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9318-9723
Has there been anything reported since then indicating Chuck said end of 2008?
As I understand it, Canon Japan advised the worldwide subsidiaries of a November date, which in turn was highly publicised by them. So I agree wholeheartedly with dcmiller's post (#9 on this page) that December shipment would not be okay with Canon Japan (where I would expect commitment and punctuality to rank fairly highly).
stits wrote:
Well I called Amazon and this time got someone in India, completely clueless He said he can't see anything about the camera period. I guess when I got thru to the people in Virginia they had access to a better tool set then the off shore support people. I'm leaving for Colombia on the 23rd so I really hope this makes it this week but it's not looking good
hope you get it in time.
i would like the firday release too since last event is on the 22nd.
every day DOES matters in some cases.
i really wish it has been out by mid-october.
otoh, if it doesn't then i may start thinking about whether or not the economy will slam sales and if they may end up dumping them off for lower price in a few months and maybe waiting for that perhaps, so perhaos i could gain monetarily by the delay at least.
stits wrote:
Well I called Amazon and this time got someone in India, completely clueless He said he can't see anything about the camera period. I guess when I got thru to the people in Virginia they had access to a better tool set then the off shore support people. I'm leaving for Colombia on the 23rd so I really hope this makes it this week but it's not looking good
Unless your Amazon order status says order is being prepared for shipment, it is not going to make it this week.
braddo_99 wrote:
OK, so which of you web monkeys is smartypants enough to scrape the real time container importing data located at the bottom of this page:
UCSB wrote:
Unless your Amazon order status says order is being prepared for shipment, it is not going to make it this week.
Perhaps. But I've also had goods ordered from Amazon that showed up before Amazon's website even indicated that it had been shipped (and it was a product sold by Amazon and shipped from one of their warehouses) so I generally put little faith in the status they provide (unless it says shipped and gives me a tracking number.)
Thanks rsg_1 , that's the missing piece of the puzzle I was after. That blog's date is Sept 17 and Chuck said end of November two weeks ago. So what does this prove? Nothing, except nobody really knows yet when it's going to arrive :-)
I'm gonna blame America. And by America, I mean Customs. I have no proof but it's a good way to not get angry with canon or anyone else that has a complaint department.
While we are in the second half of November, we are not to "the end of November" yet. Keep the faith, we'll get our cameras soon. (Whatever "soon" may mean )
He said he can't see anything about the camera period. I guess when I got thru to the people in Virginia they had access to a better tool set then the off shore support people. I'm leaving for Colombia on the 23rd so I really hope this makes it this week but it's not looking good 
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