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p.131 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Can anyone tell the difference btw the 50D and 5DII weather seal door for the CF card. It seems like the one on the 50D is no much better than the 5D with just a piece of thin electrical masking black tape at the leading edge. There is still penty of opportunities for moisture to get in along the sides.
So how would a 5DII weather seal for the CF card door look like? Any pictures?



Oct 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM
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p.131 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I wouldn't take a 1 series out in rain that heavy - that's monsoonal and IMO it's a load of crap.


Oct 22, 2008 at 12:10 AM
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p.131 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


lexvo wrote:
I wouldn't call the 300/4 "junk".

This is with the 300/4 plus 1.4x tele, wide open:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~lex1963/images/v-011web.jpg

And a 100% crop:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~lex1963/images/v-011crop_usm60.jpg


either i mis-typed or you clipped that out of context
i DID NOT mean to include the 300 f/4 in the junk pile, i might've accidentally implied it by composing my msgs too quickly and carelesly though.
anyway, i did not intend to that, in fact, i had meant the opposite.



Oct 22, 2008 at 01:25 AM
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p.131 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


anorphirith wrote:
yeah seriously guys, this threat is already overloaded, can we have some news on the orders ??!!


news is they are still handing out pre-prods THIS week so we are not likely to get a timely release it seems

basically there is nothing more to say at this point until they release it or some major known entities give it a thorough review, so the off tangents....

they kinda blew the release imo, first all the moon stuff got people so worked up that a 3D was coming and now they can't even get it out until kinda late.

missed the fall foliage, sports, weddings, etc. seasons, releasing it WAY after D700 and right when economy tanks.
maybe it'll be here by christmas, but i seriously dont see this type of cam as a stocking stuffer, so i dont see what that matters.

maybe next year they will be finally back on track after nikon has handed it to them a bit (just like nikon finally got it after stinking it up for a few years)

plus: maybe by the time they finally release it they will have to knock it down $400 to get it to sell in the worried economic situation.

anyway, my uplifting 5dmkii post for the night




Oct 22, 2008 at 01:30 AM
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skibum5 wrote:
either i mis-typed or you clipped that out of context
i DID NOT mean to include the 300 f/4 in the junk pile, i might've accidentally implied it by composing my msgs too quickly and carelesly though.
anyway, i did not intend to that, in fact, i had meant the opposite.


OK, no problem!



Oct 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM
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hans98ko wrote:
Can anyone tell the difference btw the 50D and 5DII weather seal door for the CF card. It seems like the one on the 50D is no much better than the 5D with just a piece of thin electrical masking black tape at the leading edge. There is still penty of opportunities for moisture to get in along the sides.
So how would a 5DII weather seal for the CF card door look like? Any pictures?

I think the "masking tape" is hydrophobic foam.
I'm guessing that instead of the foam, there is a rubber gasket that sits against the card door, along with an additional groove cut in the plastic (kind of like a buffer) that solidly prevents any water from getting in. If you've seen a 1d card door, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Either that, or they could have kept the same foam and claimed it to be weather sealed.
Of course, someone with experience on the pre-production model could probably tell us- it is the same plastic door though, just the insides may be different?



Oct 22, 2008 at 10:51 AM
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p.131 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


does anyone know the shipping date of the 5d mk ii? or the amazon shipping date?


Oct 22, 2008 at 11:20 AM
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p.131 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


matt drazin wrote:
does anyone know the shipping date of the 5d mk ii? or the amazon shipping date?


early 2009



Oct 22, 2008 at 11:29 AM
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p.131 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Can anyone who handled the 5DmkII comment on the sealing?


Oct 22, 2008 at 11:30 AM
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p.131 #10 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Looks like we were wrong

http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-16876-Canon+5D+Mark+II+Unboxing.html

Pre-production model, not production.



Oct 22, 2008 at 01:04 PM
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p.131 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


The first review, as far as I know, on the new Sony a900 is out:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra900/

Very interesting.

Good sharpness, very good highlights, poor noise (RAW).



Oct 22, 2008 at 01:31 PM
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p.131 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Mel Gross wrote:
The first review, as far as I know, on the new Sony a900 is out:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra900/

Very interesting.

Good sharpness, very good highlights, poor noise (RAW).



Above iso800, noise performance is rather disappointing.


However, dynamic range was a pleasant surprise!

Camera ____Shadow range Highlight range Usable range
Canon 5D _____-4.7 EV ______3.5 EV ________8.2 EV
Sony -A900____ -5.1 EV ______4.2 EV ________9.4 EV



Oct 22, 2008 at 03:33 PM
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They also have a blurb in there when comparing the A900 to the 5D and say on page 32, "Ignoring for a moment the obvious depth of field issues and differences in lens performance (the Canon 85mm appears to offer better edge to edge sharpness than the Sony) what really strikes me about these results is just how good the 3 year old EOS 5D is."
In their conclusion they also go on to say, "The biggest challenge to the Alpha 900 is probably the as yet untested Canon EOS 5D Mark II, which promises a similar resolution and a bag full of features (live view, video mode and so on) at a price that's around 10% lower. There's no doubt that existing Sony SLR and legacy Minolta film SLR users now have a fitting flagship model to salivate over and save up for, but in the face of such strong competitors the Alpha 900 may have a tough job persuading anyone to switch systems for it."
It will be really interesting to see the first real hands on tests with a production 5DII.



Oct 22, 2008 at 05:18 PM
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p.131 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Does JR charge your CC when you place the order or when it ships?


Oct 22, 2008 at 06:08 PM
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p.131 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


fraga wrote:
Above iso800, noise performance is rather disappointing.

However, dynamic range was a pleasant surprise!

Camera ____Shadow range Highlight range Usable range
Canon 5D _____-4.7 EV ______3.5 EV ________8.2 EV
Sony -A900____ -5.1 EV ______4.2 EV ________9.4 EV


Those numbers are for JPG's. They have a chart later on showing dynamic range as RAW. It's greater.



Oct 22, 2008 at 06:08 PM
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p.131 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


george malamis wrote:
They also have a blurb in there when comparing the A900 to the 5D and say on page 32, "Ignoring for a moment the obvious depth of field issues and differences in lens performance (the Canon 85mm appears to offer better edge to edge sharpness than the Sony) what really strikes me about these results is just how good the 3 year old EOS 5D is."
In their conclusion they also go on to say, "The biggest challenge to the Alpha 900 is probably the as yet untested Canon EOS 5D Mark II, which promises a similar resolution and a
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Yup, that's why I've been saying in the Sony a900 thread that the camera looks like a good one, but not a great one. They come close to matching last years models, not the new ones out at about the same time, like the 5D mkII. From what we can see, they tried to match the 1Ds mkIII, and go just a bit higher for the pixel count crown, but didn't think about what would replace it, or others.

It's great to have a slightly better viewfinder, and in-body stabilization, which wasn't thought possible for FF, but it's the IQ that, in the end, determines what people go out and buy.

I don't see this taking too many away from either Nikon or Canon.



Oct 22, 2008 at 06:15 PM
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p.131 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


MartyCastilla wrote:
Does JR charge your CC when you place the order or when it ships?


I just read their entire page about ordering, paying, and shipping, and it doesn't say!

Tells you everything else you might ever want to know though.

Check it out, maybe I missed something.

http://www.jr.com/information/help.jsp#payments



Oct 22, 2008 at 06:35 PM
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Mel Gross wrote:
I just read their entire page about ordering, paying, and shipping, and it doesn't say!

Tells you everything else you might ever want to know though.

Check it out, maybe I missed something.

http://www.jr.com/information/help.jsp#payments


They charge it when it ships. I ordered 2 mark2's from them a month ago and they have not charged my card. Make sure you make your purchase through www.live.com so you can get the 6% back!

Don



Oct 22, 2008 at 06:48 PM
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p.131 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


MartyCastilla wrote:
Does JR charge your CC when you place the order or when it ships?


They charged mine.



Oct 22, 2008 at 07:16 PM
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p.131 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


RDKirk wrote:
They charged mine.


They didn't charge me ... were you using a credit or debit card? Here is a quote straight off of my order status: You are only charged for items when they are shipped.



Oct 22, 2008 at 07:31 PM
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