Think different and you will better understand Canon (not Apple )
I can see why you have EOSfun in playing to be an EOSengineer, but don't forget Canon engineers have family too. They want to eat their slice of bread every day too. So involve earning money in your design.
(BTW the next 5D camera has been boxed already, so no possibilitiy to change features anynmore )
RDKirk wrote:
Except that the buttons on the left and the hotshoe has also disappeared...meaning that image is nothing more than a sloppy masking job.
I really hope the C-mode knob is still there. It is much easier to use than the method for setting mode on the 1-series. And 1-series C-mode is a joke. Absolutely useless. It either saves settings to your memory card, so they are gone when you switch cards, or it fails to save ISO, so when you engage saved settings you have to remember to set that also. Either way it takes a whole lotta fiddling around. Ten times quicker on the 5D. But worst of all, on the 1-series you can only switch to saved settings, you can't switch back to where you were before. Sucky. 5D C-mode is like having 2 cameras, each ready in an instant, and you can flip the switch reliably in the dark.
This kind of devolved into a 5DII Rumors thread, which I was not going for. So to all who are weary of those threads, I apologize.
In case anybody questions my motives, the real issue I was trying to bring up was the desire to see grips on non-1D bodies and to stimulate thought about internal memory. Not to beg for features on the 5DII.
orangefirefish wrote:
It actually baffles me that Sony would release such a camera aimed at the pro market, especially when so few pros shoot Sony, and their lenses aren't exactly the cream of the crop. To me it seems like marketing suicide, unless they are pricing it for the prosumer.
Wowa! Steady there....the Minolta 70-200/2.8 was universally considered to be the best 70-200/2.8 available. Sharper than both the Canon and Nikon variants.
If you look athe old Konica/Minolta and Now Sony lens list there's a lot of very exotic glass there and lets face it Zeiss is a very recognised lens maker.
35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4 (also considered to be one of the finest), 85mm f1.4 and their sublime 135mm f1.8. There's little to complain about in the Sony camp, except their camera bodies.
Don't underestimate Sony, Canon aren't. Canon have stated many times that they are more worried about Sony than Nikon.
On board memory? No. The only memory I'd like to see on board is additional (raw) buffer space. I have yet hooked a camera up to a computer to download photos, and I'm not about to start now.
Built in grip? No, some of us like the smaller, less "threatening" camera, and the flexibility to go with or without.
gazzajagman wrote:
Don't underestimate Sony, Canon aren't. Canon have stated many times that they are more worried about Sony than Nikon.
It's something I myself have problems comprehending. Nikon has all the fanbase and lenses. Sony does not. What Sony really has is a lot of marketing power.
gazzajagman wrote:
Wowa! Steady there....the Minolta 70-200/2.8 was universally considered to be the best 70-200/2.8 available. Sharper than both the Canon and Nikon variants.
If you look athe old Konica/Minolta and Now Sony lens list there's a lot of very exotic glass there and lets face it Zeiss is a very recognised lens maker.
35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4 (also considered to be one of the finest), 85mm f1.4 and their sublime 135mm f1.8. There's little to complain about in the Sony camp, except their camera bodies.
Don't underestimate Sony, Canon aren't. Canon have stated many times that they are more worried about Sony than Nikon. ...Show more →
Well, they had better start getting worried about Nikon too. My sister broke her 5D in sea water. I had to tell her that the best current replacement is a Nikon D700. The pop-up flash is an important factor for her.
Many of the Minolta lenses are superb. I am using a Minolta 58 f1.2 on my 1Ds3, and it's as good as the 50 L (but you can focus it).
photoLoKo wrote:
...I was trying to bring up was the desire to see grips on non-1D bodies and to stimulate thought about internal memory.
I've got a revolutionary idea: a grip that you can detatch! That'll keep grip lovers and grip loathers happy. I'm going to go and see if it's patented right now.
Seriously, two less than insightful ideas. Better suggestions might have been:
pop-up flash
video
af points nearer the corners/edges
face detection in liveview
infinite resolution using the time domain by slowly moving the sensor
optionally huge dynamic range by using some pixels in a low gain mode
face detection not in liveview via a broader submirror
EF-S crop mode
a very compact viewfinderless liveview only version
a joystick/button in the middle of the big wheel
white balance adjustment for each white balance mode
5 stops of exposure compensation
sensor IS
brianric wrote:
It wasn't the auto focus superiority that won a huge segement of Nikons market, it was the low noise of the Canon sensor versus the Nikon sensor. That's changed since the D3 and the debacle of the iDMKIII.
Wrong. It was USM and the electronic mount in the early nineties - long before digital.
gazzajagman wrote:
Wowa! Steady there....the Minolta 70-200/2.8 was universally considered to be the best 70-200/2.8 available. Sharper than both the Canon and Nikon variants.
If you look athe old Konica/Minolta and Now Sony lens list there's a lot of very exotic glass there and lets face it Zeiss is a very recognised lens maker.
35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4 (also considered to be one of the finest), 85mm f1.4 and their sublime 135mm f1.8. There's little to complain about in the Sony camp, except their camera bodies.
Don't underestimate Sony, Canon aren't. Canon have stated many times that they are more worried about Sony than Nikon. ...Show more →
Sorry but the Sony Minolta 35 1,4 and the 50 1,4 do net get the best test results (eg photozone.de). The Zeiss glass is another story and superb (= same quality as Canon 85L and 135L)
Brainiac,
I have issues with the detachable grip: the tightening wheel comes loose after 2 years of use. Especially when using long, fast lenses in portrait mode. And I wouldn't call my ideas "less than insightful" - they're just questions.
While we're on the subject of grips, I think it would be nice to implement writing to multiple cards in the grip, perhaps with dual-write capability to protect against failures. So maybe you could slap in two or three pairs of CF cards, and as the camera filled one it would go to another without the need to change anything.
Brainiac wrote: I had to tell her that the best current replacement is a Nikon D700.
Terrible advice, maniac You must have been brainwashed by the Nikonians Someone who drops her 5D in the sea should either have it replaced by a new 5D, because it still is such a nice camera that she already knows. Else she should wait a few weeks until the next thing is there. Anyway, how good the 700 maybe, how much coolpix she is gonna shoot, she will miss the real EOSfun.
photoLoKo wrote:
Brainiac,
I have issues with the detachable grip: the tightening wheel comes loose after 2 years of use. Especially when using long, fast lenses in portrait mode. And I wouldn't call my ideas "less than insightful" - they're just questions.
I don't see harm in offering an integrated-grip version of the 5D. It would certainly please people full of angst over whether their 5D is a pro camera. I just don't see how it would push the 5DII ahead of the competition.
photoLoKo wrote:
Brainiac,
I have issues with the detachable grip: the tightening wheel comes loose after 2 years of use. ...
If you plan to use a grip full time and never remove it, just put a dab of blue loctite on the mounting threads - it is removable (with some added effort) should you wish to remove the grip sometime in the future.
photoLoKo wrote:
Brainiac,
I have issues with the detachable grip: the tightening wheel comes loose after 2 years of use. Especially when using long, fast lenses in portrait mode. And I wouldn't call my ideas "less than insightful" - they're just questions.
Then glue your grip on, or better yet just buy a 1 series. You'll then get the added benefit of much better AF and a second card slot (much better than internal memory) to go with your new grip.
Seriously, two less than insightful ideas. Better suggestions might have been:
Let me add a few others:
popup video (makes people smile immediately; except for D90 owners)
wireless joystick (a la Wii)
cornerless image (since no issues with AF in the corner anymore and no vignetting or edge abberations)
I have to agree on the ultrabroad submirror, but then with fix button connected to the MLU setting(Rob Galbraith mode)
no white balance mode (for special FX picture style)
stepless crop mode (not only EF-S, but also four thirds, micro four thirds and other important sensor modes)
tilt and shift sensor (no need for TS lenses anymore)
instead of face detection we need: butt detection (for nude art photographs)
also butt detection in live view mode (handy in macro setup)
huge viewfinder like Nikon F Photomatic (for better professional looks)
I could go on, it's not even a start. You probably get the message: the real EOSfun is not in features. It's in image quality, that's why we want more megapixels, always more megapixels, there is no substitute for megapixels. Even Nikon knows
and you will better understand Canon (not Apple 
Someone who drops her 5D in the sea should either have it replaced by a new 5D, because it still is such a nice camera that she already knows. Else she should wait a few weeks until the next thing is there. Anyway, how good the 700 maybe, how much coolpix she is gonna shoot, she will miss the real EOSfun.