Google includes in its search the links pointing to what you are looking for.
The page you found is eos1d_terms_conditions.html, and a link to this page was certainly made in dpreview [with other words like 5d, mark and ii]
In this case click the 'cached' link to view why Google returns a match - if it is actually just a link pointing to canon, it will say something like 'These search terms are highlighted: canon mark ii These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: 5D'.
[a working example: try your same search with one more word, 'dpreview' and then click 'cached' to see for yourself: canon does not mention dpreview in most of its pages]
This is pretty confusing, and I'm not sure Google got the right idea...
mabidally wrote:
Both Canon USA and Canon UK sites are down at the moment - I am trying to access from Sri Lanka.
Maybe the Internet in Sri Lanka is down?
stanj wrote:
The AF ACCURACY. It's not the number of points, I never use more than 9 on my 1Ds3 either. But the accuracy of the 1D series compared to my 40D is ... startling.
Really? I have used 3 xxD bodies alongside my 1D series, and while the 1D tends to have faster AF, I dont recall it being a big deal-breaker for me. Each to their own, I guess.
The 50D is supposed to have faster AF as well, as per that review floating around, so let's see. What I dont like about those 9 points is that asinine diamond formation. Would a simple 3x3 grid have been too much to ask for? Still, for $1200, I cant complain.
Could we come back to a usefull and friendly content of this thread?
As far as I remember its still a rumor 5DII thread. And now the todays marketing start of Canon WW let us know "something" is coming for real. Nothing more. I guess it does not make much sense now to fight about not known specs, or the sence of having a pop up flash or not. We still do not know. What we know is there is a shape of a cameras body that HAS a 100% VF with no flash (imo). And the pic might show something with an integrated power grip. The curve manipulation shows nothing than a bad overworked and down below plastered image with millions of compression artefacts.
The other (german and UK) drifter pic ahows a (for me) unknown shaped front of the VF housing. With a smal line beneath the Canon logo. Imo this is no flash indication. Because a popupflash integrated can not use that smooth rounding without destroying 25% of the VFs capacity (if its not a totally new flash technologie). The pic to looks overworked. There are no visible buttons, nor is there a wheel on the opposite side. That image looks more than a painted graphic (or strongly overpainted photograph) to me. The only thing we know technically is that Canon just introduced the 50D with Digic IV High Iso capabilities and a gigantic 15 MP sensor. Idt does not really matter if this makes sence. They will not go and introduce the successor of one of worlds most innovativ (IQ) cameras since digital photography and go a step back behind Nikon.
On the otehr hand I really do not see eny sence in discussing what that new camera must, should or might have, guys. Its already done. They will not change it because of any discussion. They will show us and we might discuss sense or nonsense later. Right now I am really exited. And I am sure what comes will be better than what we could use before.
It is only my opinion, but I followed the 50D thread, too. And I am really astonished.
Ther 40Ds AF (and 30Ds and 20Ds before) is exellent! Maybe the tracking is not what sports pros wish. But this (40D) was a semipro camera. The 50D is, too. People who say "OMG the same AF like 40D - I will cancel my order!" sound stupid to me (sorry if its you). Its aurely even better than 40Ds great one. The only failure Canon did the last decade was to try to make an exellent AF (MK II) "phantastic by doing something complete new. My tip to the semipro users: Learn to use your gear and the AF is brilliant for most of any semipro use.
5D was a highend prosumer product, too. Not professional. But it was so exellent in IQ that lots of pros use it and will do in future, too. Those who cry I want a Nikon with Canons IQ, may not get what they want. They have to wait for Nikon hits Canons IQ or Canon Nikons features and build. Maybe that might happen now. Lets wait before we destroy the pleasure to see a new product without seeing it.
We had great Iso performance at an excellent IQ and still not reached (by competitors) resolution. At an affordable price. That was set by 5D 3 years ago. I worked with it and for me that was what counted. I never had a problem with feeling and handling this camera. Others have and I respect their wishes. What counts for me is enhanced resolution (a bit 16-18 MP would be enough for me), higher ISO at even enhanced IQ (and I am shure we will get - FF with that res by using the 50D sensor know how would make the best IQ camera on the market again) and an (for me) affordable price (2000-2200 €). If that is what we get I am happy and will buy it. Who is not should think about his sense for reality. One can wish but not get high tech with all professional features at a consumer or semipro price level.
vkalia wrote:
Really? I have used 3 xxD bodies alongside my 1D series, and while the 1D tends to have faster AF, I dont recall it being a big deal-breaker for me. Each to their own, I guess.
I never talked about speed per se. At the end of the day what I care about is number of shots in focus vs. not, and there, my 1Ds3 comes always ahead of my 40D. Whether it's speed, accuracy, combination of both, I don't care. And no people don't come with the argument of $1k vs. $8k, because the original question was about what one _may_want_, from a "this is technically possible" perspective, and "what about the D300" which -- for many -- is a competitor to the 40D/50D. My $500 1D (mk1) focuses better than the 40D, and I am sure it will be able to take it up with the 50D as well.
I think you are missing a big chunk of people who want professional features in a body (i.e. accurate and reliable AF with full weather sealing) in a compact 5D body i.e. without the grip. There are A LOT of people out there who simply HATE grips .... as it does nothing for them except add more bulk and weight. Canon, therefore, need to offer a 3rd option .... and I can guarantee you that this 3rd option will be MAJOR hit .... like the 5D was.
vkalia wrote:
Canon has both options there - you really need the features AND the IQ? Get the 1Ds3. If you can live with fewer features, there was the 5D and now, looks like the 7D/5D2/whatever.
The camera that floats across the banner on the Canon Europe site does not have a mode selection dial as per the image posted by ulrikft above. More like the 1D body silhouette.
First off, let me preface this by saying that I have been waiting for the 5DMk2 since the day the 5D was replaced (it did everything for me except I needed 5fps), and now, as a 3 year wait draws to a close, I am getting *really* impatient, which may account for my edgy post earlier.
Having vented, I feel a lot better now!
bobbytan wrote:
I think you are missing a big chunk of people who want professional features in a body (i.e. accurate and reliable AF with full weather sealing) in a compact 5D body i.e. without the grip. There are A LOT of people out there who simply HATE grips .... as it does nothing for them except add more bulk and weight. Canon, therefore, need to offer a 3rd option .... and I can guarantee you that this 3rd option will be MAJOR hit .... like the 5D was.
I think we can agree that no matter WHAT Canon releases, there probably will be a large chunk of people who are have different requirements and, even if the requirements are similar, different perceptions as to whether a product meets the requirements or no (eg, Stanj and I seem to have similar requirements for AF, but we perceive the 40D as meeting our needs differently).
With every camera, there are "MUST HAVE" features, without which the purchase decision doesnt make sense. And there are "NICE TO HAVE" features which one can still work around.
As an example: If someone finds the AF inadequate for their purposes, that makes the camera a no-go. On the other hand, for someone who really shoots in the rain, a proper raincover is essential. It isnt enough to merely have a functional camera in the wet - you need to keep water off the front elements and from blurring up wth VF.
For the "nice to have" features, there are workarounds. They may not be ideal, but it is all about compromises (after all, that is why we all buy bodies other than the 1Ds3, right?).
For sure there are a lot of people who really need a certain feature that is missing; and for some people, what I consider "nice to haves" may be "must-haves." But I suspect that for the vast majority of people crying for feature X, it is more about "nice to have" and keeping up with Nikonses than any "must have" reason.
Take the 51-pt AF & weathersealing, the two hot topics of the day. Ask yourself - until the D300 was released, how many people were clamoring for these features in the xxD? There were a few, definitely - but compare that to the number of people who apparently simply CANNOT take a photo now with 51-pt professional AF and a weather-sealed body. What gives?
And my apologies to those who DO need these features but not the rest of the feature set of the 1D series.... you know who you are, and you are not the ones I am talking about.
stanj wrote:
And no people don't come with the argument of $1k vs. $8k, because the original question was about what one _may_want_, from a "this is technically possible" perspective, and "what about the D300" which -- for many -- is a competitor to the 40D/50D.
No beef there (and I think the merits of the xxD vs xD AF is best left to a different thread, anyway.. let's talk pop-up flash instead! :P).
I would not have a problem if people said "this body doesnt meet my needs - I wish they would release such-and-such feature set." We are all hoping that the up-coming bodies meet our requirements and budgets.
What had gotten to me was the litany of "it doesnt meet my needs, so it is crap/Canon doesnt care/Canon doesnt know what they are doing/I am switching" yadayada. Hey, the 5D didnt meant my specific requirements and I didnt buy it, but I didnt spent 3 years complaining what a lousy body it was either.
It's a tool, it's a compromise, so find the one that best suits your needs. Why the histrionics?
ulrikft wrote:
Care to tell me how you are planning to weather seal my 30d or an old 5d for $50? what about bracketing? What you call "inconsequential" may be be all end all for some. So instead of trying to have some kind of "this is -the- right opinion", what about stating "for my use..."....?
stanj wrote:
The AF ACCURACY. It's not the number of points, I never use more than 9 on my 1Ds3 either. But the accuracy of the 1D series compared to my 40D is ... startling.
Agreed... AF accuracy is the main reason I bought a Ds2. I never really use more than 11 points out of the 45 available but those 11 points are guarenteed to nail focus every time. That is what defines "professional" AF such as that in the D300 and D3, IMO, not the total number of points.
As far as the teaser ads go, the expression "Destined evolution" in my mind means the "incremental improvement everyone expects". Of course, it could be a dodgy Japanese translation but Evolution, by definition, is only an incremental process and the word "destined" makes it sound even less like the evolutionary step will surprise anyone.
I would be happier if instead it said "shocking revolution".
Canon has released a teaser on their site about the new evolution coming. Assumed to be the new 5D.
Canon has just added a mysterious teaser to its US website. The page shows a silhouette of a camera with the words 'Destined Evolution.' Maybe it will be updated to include more detail in the future, we don't know. It's almost as if the company is building up to the launch of a camera to replace one of its older models. We have no specific information but it doesn't require any profound market insight to predict an EOS 5D replacement is coming.
I think you may be thinking too hard. I doubt that they are trying to build excitment by indicating an incremental improvement.
I'm not sure what we are supposed to read from it but i imagine we are supposed to think of where we have eledgedly come from as humans (sludge once) to where we are now, what we were destined to be.
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