Thank you for the comments , the setup for this shot was pretty funny looking. The cage the chondro lives in opens from the top. So I extended the tripod legs so they were flat and placed the tripod on the cage upside down so the camera was inside the cage. I had to focus looking through the glass of the cage into the viewfinder that was a few inches away. I used the self timer to avoid camera shake.... it was an interesting experience. Think I got lucky.