Esquire08 wrote:
I can understand this, but a better screen would likely come with a higher price tag increase. Take a look at serious pros, like at the olympics. No matter which system they were using (Canon v. Nikon), all of them had laptops with them checking the image directly after each heat.
It seems like the people that really need the high-resolution to check images just use a laptop with a nice screen, rather than a camera with a small 3" screen.
I think the costs of a high-res screen clearly outweigh the benefits.
The cost of a nice high-res screen (which I imagine is not too high) outweighs the benefits, but we should get an eee or macbook air to bring with us? :P
Emile Gregoire wrote:
On my 1D, all shots look OOF on the LCD, so here's a +1 for asking for a better LCD that provides a normal view of the image I just took. Granted, during high-paced events I wouldn't use it but at other times I definitely would.
+1 here, too. My dad was showing me some shots he got from his 40D and EF-S 60mm macro on his 3" LCD saying that they're soft!
I zoomed in and yes, they looked oddly soft. It took a bit of head-scratching to remember that I still had to view the photos on the PC to get a 1:1 view.....
Nikons have been doing this for a while. It's what I'd come to expect from a camera. Perhaps not the 40D (but would be nice) but from my 1Ds Mark II.. yes.. it's four years old, but the bloody D2X could do it... and that was.. half the price.
I can live with the standard resolution LCD that the Canons currently have - I just want a 1:1 view to tell me whether I've got what I had hoped to get.
Ralph Conway wrote:
My first DSLR D60 was replaced by 10D within less than that (when I remember right). After they created "digic I". If sales do not reach what is expected, prices went down (we already have) and a NEW leading horse (within a field) will be introduced.
450D already has 12 MP and digs imo from 40D sales. Next step could be 50D with crop and 12 MP. Or they already might think about the logic step. To put together 40D/5D and make the midrange FF. Than we would have 4 Levels: intro, consumer, semipro and pro.
Face it, when your entry level models have more advanced technology than your higher models, you are screwed. And that describes Canon for the past 24 months. When the 50D hits, they will bring old tech to the game and Nikon will trump them again.
AJ Nadershahi wrote:
Olympus and Matsushita (Panasonic) are working on new Four Thirds camera and lenses that will be P+S sized cameras with interchangable lenses.
That will be cute, a thimble sized lens. I have never lost a lens before, might happen with this new platform.
Ralph, the answer to your need to check results is that cameras should have wi-fi modules. They exist, but at a ridiculous price, which is not warranted by technology or cost of parts. A reasonably priced wi-fi module should be around 75-150$ if volume produced, depending on features, and you would get what you want. And the best compromise to check IQ would be IMHO not a large, heavy, slow, Vista-encumbered laptop, but a 7 -inch high-def screen with a large storage disk. Such a device should weigh one pound or less and cost less than 500$.
abam wrote:
just have acquaintances bring you photo items back from NA when/if they go there for vacations. it turns an 800-euro camera into a 500-euro camera.
And if you evade sales tax and import duty by Customs in the EU and get caught you will have the equipment confiscated, you will be HEAVILY fined, and given a criminal record. And, if the camera (not lens, which has international warranty) is faulty you are totally f****d because Canon Europe will not honor a NA warranty.
Colin Key wrote:
And, if the camera (not lens, which has international warranty) is faulty you are totally f****d because Canon Europe will not honor a NA warranty.
Not really a bargain, I would say.
Colin
I totally agree Colin! When the 1D3 was released I know 2 photographers who bought their 1D3 in the US for a much cheaper price, then laughed at me for the paying full UK price. But when they found they had AF problems, and then later Canon announced a fix, they had to send their 1D3s back to the US for service as Canon UK said they would charge them for the fix, and IIRC it wasn't a cheap fix!
As you know, I went through 2 bodies before pressuring Canon and my dealer so much they gave me a replacement. As helpful as B+H is, I can't imagine them being that helpful to a UK resident!!
too bad that your customs people aren't like they are in austria, france or germany. i have never been stopped by customs coming back to europe, even when traveling alone with three blatantly new sets of golf clubs. all they can do if i am stopped is fine me the difference in price. YMMV depending on country.
and as for the warranty, canon states on its USA homepage (http://www.usa.canon.com/support/slrfaq.html) that "...All models distributed by Canon USA have a 1 year parts & labor warranty which is valid worldwide..."
sure, canon aren't particularly obligated to do warranty repair on grey market imports - but they do. all they want to see is an original invoice. all shops i've dealt with will do warranty service as long as an original bill of sale can be produced.
abam wrote:
too bad that your customs people aren't like they are in austria, france or germany. i have never been stopped by customs coming back to europe, even when traveling alone with three blatantly new sets of golf clubs. all they can do if i am stopped is fine me the difference in price. YMMV depending on country.
and as for the warranty, canon states on its USA homepage (http://www.usa.canon.com/support/slrfaq.html) that "...All models distributed by Canon USA have a 1 year parts & labor warranty which is valid worldwide..."
sure, canon aren't particularly obligated to do warranty repair on grey market imports - but they do. all they want to see is an original invoice. all shops i've dealt with will do warranty service as long as an original bill of sale can be produced.
Your link to the Canon USA homepage does not load, but I can tell you (as will many very aggrieved Europeans who have purchased camera bodies in N America) that you are WRONG.
You say "all they can do if i am stopped is fine me the difference in price": this is also incorrect. There was a time when HMCR would give you the option, if caught attempting to evade excise duty, to "pay up" on the spot. That is now no longer the case; for high value items (e.g. a 1DsMk3 or a 600 mm f/4) you will have those items confiscated, receive a summons to appear at a Magistrate's Court and will receive a heavy fine and a criminal record. If you contest the action and your case is heard at a Crown Court then the penalty could even be a suspended custodial sentence. Believe me, I really do have the "inside info" on these situations. It is not long since there was a case in the U.K. for someone being fined £400 and receiving a criminal record for throwing a cigarette butt out of his car window, something which he contested because it was not a filter-tip cigarette and it was raining at the time and he assumed that the offending "litter" would just disintegrate in the wet; he was caught on CCTV and they "DID" him. By comparison, "smuggling" goods worth thousands of pounds/euros is a major crime.
Getting a criminal record in the EU is bad news, more so with the pending introduction of "chipped" I.D. Cards and Passports.
philber wrote:
Ralph, the answer to your need to check results is that cameras should have wi-fi modules. They exist, but at a ridiculous price, which is not warranted by technology or cost of parts. A reasonably priced wi-fi module should be around 75-150$ if volume produced, depending on features, and you would get what you want. And the best compromise to check IQ would be IMHO not a large, heavy, slow, Vista-encumbered laptop, but a 7 -inch high-def screen with a large storage disk. Such a device should weigh one pound or less and cost less than 500$.
That has been tried several times. It hasn't worked out so far. Either the hardware is very pricey, or the transmission speeds are too slow, or pictures get dropped and have to be resent, power consumption has been very high, etc.
Ralph Conway wrote:
As I remember, the D60 was replaced after one year by 10D (offering Digic I, higher and better Iso (1600/3200 instead of a horrible 1000) an an AF at an more affordable price of 1200$ less. As far I remember.
When 5D came out it was a stand allone genius work of camera engeniering. Its price now three years after dropped for about $ 2.000 (calculated on german prices). In electronics its just a normal thing, that follow ups introducing prices are lower than those (introducing prices) of their prereleases.
40D is the 4rth follow up of D60 and as far I remember its Intro was € 1299. Thats 45% less than D60 was 5 years earlier. And this was worth it any cent to me, too. But who would mention that 40D is not a much better camera in all points at a much lower price?
My 30D is in any point. And it still has not such an fast and accurate AF, (little) higher noise by 2MP less resolution and Digic II etc.
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Just to continue the price trend "backwards", the original - the D30 - was introduced at $2999 USD, and was still over 2500 about a year later, yet the D60 that replaced it started at $2000. So we've gone from a $3000 D30 to the 40D at less than half the price before even figuring monetary inflation.
I agree that a 5D replacement could be introduced at a much lower price than the original 5D.
I agree that a 5D replacement could be introduced at a much lower price than the original 5D.
and, yet, there is one more thing you guys are missing - steady depreciation of US currency, which should actually sink even a bit more in the future. Simply because of this 5D will not come out at the price we all hope for
EvilZardoz wrote:
+1 here, too. My dad was showing me some shots he got from his 40D and EF-S 60mm macro on his 3" LCD saying that they're soft!
I zoomed in and yes, they looked oddly soft. It took a bit of head-scratching to remember that I still had to view the photos on the PC to get a 1:1 view.....
Nikons have been doing this for a while. It's what I'd come to expect from a camera. Perhaps not the 40D (but would be nice) but from my 1Ds Mark II.. yes.. it's four years old, but the bloody D2X could do it... and that was.. half the price.
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yeah, it's silly. if the cam can process a raw into a jpg at a few frames per second it surely can show you a 1:1 review! ridiculous. they should've had this since at least the 10D days....
Oleksiy Shvets wrote:
and, yet, there is one more thing you guys are missing - steady depreciation of US currency, which should actually sink even a bit more in the future. Simply because of this 5D will not come out at the price we all hope for
Have you been watching the business news? The US dollar has strengthened each of the last 5 weeks.
Photon wrote:
I agree that a 5D replacement could be introduced at a much lower price than the original 5D.
Could is the operative word there, Jess.
Canon could do a lot of things, but probably won't. The latest 1-Series offerings (i.e. the MkIII's) would appear to be proof that Canon has no intention of lowering their current price points, despite any apparent pressure from Nikon. Coupl'a hundred bucks maybe, but nowhere near the technological 'trickle-down' prices we should be seeing, like the consumer end has seen.
I have a feeling we're stuck with the current price points of anything '5D-like' and above.
