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p.5 #1 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


EB-1 wrote:
Jeff, how much is all this suffering and stress worth over the past year? Sometimes, as with a lemon car, it is better to bite the bullet and move on even at some monetary loss.


Gary Petersen wrote:
I agree. Sometimes you just have to dump the thing and move on.


Move on to what? I need a sports camera, and I need a D300-like FF camera, one that is not the 5D. The 1D MkIII is the camera that I need in my bag, and Canon does not currently make the full-frame camera that is its complementary. The MkIIn won't do it after experiencing files from the MkIII.

My only option at this point would be to dump Canon all together, and move into the unknown realm of Nikon. Some of my future lenses (which I currently REFUSE to buy) would be cost-prohibitive on the Nikon side.

Yes, I'm between a rock and a hard place. Not sure which I prefer.



Jul 06, 2008 at 10:42 PM
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p.5 #2 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


I meant to suggest that you ditch the current 1D MK III, buy another one and test it thoroughly. Or do you feel that the model is still inherently unreliable?

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Jul 06, 2008 at 10:48 PM
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p.5 #3 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


I feel that the model is still inherently unreliable.


Jul 06, 2008 at 10:50 PM
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p.5 #4 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Jeff wrote:
Move on to what? I need a sports camera, and I need a D300-like FF camera, one that is not the 5D. The 1D MkIII is the camera that I need in my bag, and Canon does not currently make the full-frame camera that is its complementary. The MkIIn won't do it after experiencing files from the MkIII.


$8k aside, 1Ds3 won't fit the bill? 5fps is not _that_ bad...



Jul 06, 2008 at 10:51 PM
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p.5 #5 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


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Move on to what? I need a sports camera, and I need a D300-like FF camera, one that is not the 5D. The 1D MkIII is the camera that I need in my bag, and Canon does not currently make the full-frame camera that is its complementary. The MkIIn won't do it after experiencing files from the MkIII.

My only option at this point would be to dump Canon all together, and move into the unknown realm of Nikon. Some of my future lenses (which I currently REFUSE to buy) would be cost-prohibitive on the Nikon side.

Yes, I'm between a rock
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I wonder if anyone has simply sued Canon over this. My 1D functions perfectly. Granted I've only had it a week but have worked it under harsh Arizona desert conditions and it does all it's supposed to do. Make Canon give you a new one. There's probably an equal chance to get a bad Nikon at this point.



Jul 06, 2008 at 10:55 PM
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p.5 #6 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Jeff wrote:
I feel that the model is still inherently unreliable.


I have to agree with this statement as my personal experiences from last June to the Blue_Dot, but i am not sure about the newest production Mark III, say serial above 570xxx... I am thinking to give it a last try.....


Edited on Jul 06, 2008 at 11:02 PM



Jul 06, 2008 at 11:01 PM
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p.5 #7 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


When is the MK IV going to be released?


Jul 06, 2008 at 11:17 PM
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p.5 #8 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


camera schamera. That's 21 year-old single malt! Nice


Jul 06, 2008 at 11:17 PM
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p.5 #9 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


stanj wrote:
$8k aside, 1Ds3 won't fit the bill? 5fps is not _that_ bad...


Although the 5 fps might be close enough to be tolerable, the $8k is a bit too much to stomach after my experiences the last year. I don't really need an $8k camera, and paying an extra $4k to solve a problem my camera shouldn't have seems counter-productive.

Gary Petersen wrote:
As far as I can tell in a few hundred shots the new one work just fine. I just got mine last week and can't make it misbehave.


After only a few hundred shots mine worked fine, too. It took me 8000 shots to get to this point with this second (replacement) camera. Before this, it was all 'close enough' to be tolerable.

Not anymore, I can't continue to rationalize this camera's faults, however infrequent they may be.



Jul 06, 2008 at 11:21 PM
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p.5 #10 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


forestmage wrote:
camera schamera. That's 21 year-old single malt! Nice


Don't forget the $31.00 cigar to go with it. I lost my wife a week ago and decided a celebration of her life was a good thing to do. I didn't want to cheap out on her.



Jul 06, 2008 at 11:29 PM
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p.5 #11 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Sorry to hear that Gary, that's hard to imagine.

Peace.



Jul 06, 2008 at 11:31 PM
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p.5 #12 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Garylv wrote:
I occasionally see photos like Jeff's from my 1DIII also. It's an early serial number body and had all the repairs and upgrades from Canon. For the most part it does ok now but I see those weird ghosted ones too. I'm not sure it's an AF issue, but I can't explain it.

None of you other people see photos like that? Ever? Maybe only certain bodies are affected. Jeff's replacement is a newer one. Whatever the cause, apparently Canon still doesn't have a handle on it.

I guess that's why a number of people feel they just couldn't trust the
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Ditto. Been back to Canon twice.. Works well in some conditions, then unexplained performance just like pictured here rear it's head. Maddening.




Jul 06, 2008 at 11:50 PM
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p.5 #13 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


It would be interesting to track down a body with a serial number very
close to Gary's and test that one. Maybe the good ones come from certain
batches.

Still sounds like Canon's having problems with this body.



Jul 07, 2008 at 12:33 AM
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p.5 #14 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Hrow wrote:
Having been through exactly this situation (with Jeff's kind assistance) and seeing how this has been a problem for Jeff for some time, I don't think any of the typical suggestions are going to yield much in the way of results. My only offerings would be to try turning completely off the sensor cleaning from the menu (I think you can) and if that doesn't work (I doubt that it will), just sell the camera.

Dumping my piece o' s@*t 1DMkIII was the best thing I have done photographically in a very long time. My mood improved dramatically, I don't
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The 1Ds Mk III and 1D Mk III share the same focus mechanism. In light of this one has to wonder how one is misbehaving so bad while the other is behaving so well.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Jul 07, 2008 at 03:10 AM
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p.5 #15 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Jeff wrote:
I feel that the model is still inherently unreliable.


I agree with this. When I got my 1st 1D3 at the beginning of June last year, after 3 weeks I returned it for a refund. In August I bought a 2nd one, after a long and protracted argument with my dealer and Canon, the latter eventually agreed to exchange it again at the end of October for a new blue dot from the factory.

I am actually very very pleased with this one but had I received a 3rd duff body I would agree with Jeff and got rid of it and stuck with my Ns until the Mk4 series came out

As good as the 1D Mark 3 14-bit files are, if I had received a 3rd duff body I would not use and could not trust a Mk3 to do the job for me. Filewise it might be a small step back to the N but I know I can trust an N to take the shot I want and that is worth far more to me than whatever differences there are in the files.

Edited on Jul 07, 2008 at 04:10 AM



Jul 07, 2008 at 04:06 AM
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p.5 #16 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Yakim Peled wrote:
The 1Ds Mk III and 1D Mk III share the same focus mechanism. In light of this one has to wonder how one is misbehaving so bad while the other is behaving so well.


There are also AF problems with the 1Ds3. Different problems than with the 1D3, but problems nontheless...

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/662996/0

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/664057

Edited on Jul 07, 2008 at 04:36 AM



Jul 07, 2008 at 04:27 AM
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p.5 #17 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


With only 9 voters to date, I think I'll wait for a more substantial number to pass judgement.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Jul 07, 2008 at 04:40 AM
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p.5 #18 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


Yakim,
Try this. It has more votes:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/663002


Yakim Peled wrote:
With only 9 voters to date, I think I'll wait for a more substantial number to pass judgement.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Jul 07, 2008 at 04:56 AM
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p.5 #19 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


morganb4 wrote:
Yakim,
Try this. It has more votes:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/663002



This is not a poll and does not speak about AF problems. Am I missing something?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Jul 07, 2008 at 05:06 AM
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p.5 #20 · This frickin' 1D MkIII just ain't right!


What a bummer man! I am a pro photographer and before that I used to process transparency film for a large magazine company. I have seen a problem like this before this was in the manual focus film days. It was a weird out of focus problem that moved to different parts of the image after much swearing and hair puling the photographer took it to a tech who discovered a loose lens element that tilted around and moved depending on the angle of the lens, problem fixed. Have you tried using a different lens?
Manual versus auto focus? Maybe a lens test shooting a page of text with a tripod going through a the f.stops and shutter speeds might reveal something a bit more scientific. Otherwise send it back for a full refund or replacement you paid good money for it and it should work.
Good luck.



Jul 07, 2008 at 05:15 AM
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