Ineound wrote: Desmolicious wrotezi464 wroteDesmolicious wroteIneound wrotezi464 wroteSo even the M4P has 28 framlines but you still have difficult time look thru the viewfinder ?
I wear glasses too and also consider to get a M4P.Yes, quite surprising to me. The 35 is already hard to see, for the 28 I need to hover around in the viewfinder. But I also have very bad eyes which may cause additional difficulties. Unfortunately the M4P is not available with the 0.58 viewfinder.The .72 just is not very good with the 28mm frame lines. The 28 lines are hard to see without glasses on any of my .72 Leicas - you have to move your eye around the vf with it jammed in there. And if I had glasses on? Nope.
.58 really is the one if you like 28mm lenses, and also I think it is the best vf for 35mm lenses as the frame lines are perfect for that too.
The .58 finder IMO is the best finder if you shoot in the 28-50 range. And if you decide to use 50 a lot, you can just screw in a magnifier. The rf base length is the same in all the Ms (apart from the M5) so the accuracy is the same. The only thing that differs is the magnification.So between M6 and M7 which one you will pick ?
I know MP has 0.58 but just too expensive, I rather save those money for the lens.I prefer my M7 to my M6, because AE and AE lock is so darn convenient!
But the smart move would be to get whichever .72 M you want and a Voigtlander 28mm optical hotshoe finder as @madNbad@@ pointed out. I have that finder and it is super bright w excellent frame lines. You would save huge money instead of getting a .58.Sure, though that kind of contradicts for me the idea of being able to use fast lenses / faster than SLR lenses. Because you would need to step down for focusing first and then composing through the viewfinder.... right?
You don't NEED to use the optical VF, it just makes framing easier. It gives you best of both worlds.
I still struggle a bit with the Leica viewfinder and wearing glasses. Hard to see the 28mm framelines. Also, I have not yet shot something that makes me go "wow" this one I could not have taken with a Pentax and the 28mm F2. Not yet willing to give up though...
Ferry | Leica M4P | Kodak Ultramax rated at Iso 640 and developed at Iso 800 | Valoi Easy35After my first visit with a new ophthalmologist, she commented she was surprised I could see as well as I do.
I've used 28mm lenses with M cameras that have the 28mm frame lines and ones that don't. I used a M2 with a 28 for a year just using the entire finder. I do a quick scan of the corners and that works well. A few years back, I decided to make the move to a dedicated finder for the M4 and M4-2. I use the 28 quite a bit and it makes framing easier. I have since sold both of the 28's in the photo and bought a Zeiss Biogon.
Did you ever have parallax issues using a 28 with the M2? As I understand, the entire viewfinder is effectively a 28 frame line, but you don't get parallax correction.
I still struggle a bit with the Leica viewfinder and wearing glasses. Hard to see the 28mm framelines. Also, I have not yet shot something that makes me go "wow" this one I could not have taken with a Pentax and the 28mm F2. Not yet willing to give up though...
Ferry | Leica M4P | Kodak Ultramax rated at Iso 640 and developed at Iso 800 | Valoi Easy35After my first visit with a new ophthalmologist, she commented she was surprised I could see as well as I do.
I've used 28mm lenses with M cameras that have the 28mm frame lines and ones that don't. I used a M2 with a 28 for a year just using the entire finder. I do a quick scan of the corners and that works well. A few years back, I decided to make the move to a dedicated finder for the M4 and M4-2. I use the 28 quite a bit and it makes framing easier. I have since sold both of the 28's in the photo and bought a Zeiss Biogon.
The one of the couple in front of the record store in Ashland was taken using a 28 Biogon and a accessory finder. I was about two meters from the subjects. I have never noticed any problems with parallax using just the finder.
I still struggle a bit with the Leica viewfinder and wearing glasses. Hard to see the 28mm framelines. Also, I have not yet shot something that makes me go "wow" this one I could not have taken with a Pentax and the 28mm F2. Not yet willing to give up though...
Ferry | Leica M4P | Kodak Ultramax rated at Iso 640 and developed at Iso 800 | Valoi Easy35After my first visit with a new ophthalmologist, she commented she was surprised I could see as well as I do.
I've used 28mm lenses with M cameras that have the 28mm frame lines and ones that don't. I used a M2 with a 28 for a year just using the entire finder. I do a quick scan of the corners and that works well. A few years back, I decided to make the move to a dedicated finder for the M4 and M4-2. I use the 28 quite a bit and it makes framing easier. I have since sold both of the 28's in the photo and bought a Zeiss Biogon.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53104791197_e46da1f775_b.jpg[Did you ever have parallax issues using a 28 with the M2? As I understand, the entire viewfinder is effectively a 28 frame line, but you don't get parallax correction.The one of the couple in front of the record store in Ashland was taken using a 28 Biogon and a accessory finder. I was about two meters from the subjects. I have never noticed any problems with parallax using just the finder.
rji2goleez wrote: bjhurley wroterji2goleez wroteWalking in Split, Croatia
M11 + CV35/1.4I think you might have posted this in the wrong thread, Bob! Unless you figured out how to shoot film with your M11. You're right, I did post in the wrong thread. I knew I posted it wrongly and couldn't find it to delete . . . oops!
S’alright, I post Leica film images in the M mount thread and no-one has complained yet.