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DragonflyDM wrote:
But the Bible quotes Jesus often as saying that no one should be the one to judge anyone. Not to judge the adulterous women, or anyone. In fact, read Matthews and you will see that it says clearly that the judgments you hold against other people are the judgments and measuring sticks that will be held against you and that those who judge are hypocrites.
You have to understand the context. The judgement you refer to in Matthew refers to judging other people for something while you are doing the same thing yourself. That is hypocrisy. However, John 7:24 tells us to judge righteous judgement. Also, in 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Pauls exhorts the saints to judge matters in this life. So, according to the Bible, we have the right to judge according to His Word.
If you want to go through Biblical sins, you will have a lot of conflicts and problems. It IS NOT a sin to drink or be drunk. It IS a sin to laugh at your father if he is drunk (read about Noah).
Ephesians 5:18 And don't be drunk with wine, in excess, but be filled with the Spirit of God.
It IS NOT a sin to sleep with all three of your daughters if you think you are the last people on the planet and you are drunk. It IS NOT a sin to get your dad drunk and trick him to get you pregnant if you think it is for a good cause. (read the story of Lot)
Just because these stories are listed in God's Word does not mean He approves of their actions. A good cause does not justify sinful actions.
So we already have a VERY clear situation when you should not be able to justify shooting people's weddings-- if the kids are going to laugh at their dad when he is drunk. You also have a VERY clear situation when you should forgive people.
The difference between the two is intention. WHEN Noah's children laughed at Noah, they did it out of malice. When Lots children slept with their father they did it out of noble good intentions.
Good intentions do not get you in right standing with God. Only Jesus does.
Jesus says that it isn't the sleeping with your neighbor's wife that is the sin, but the lustful desire to cheat on with his wife.
Screeeeeeeeeech (me hitting the brakes)! No, Jesus was elaborating on the liberal pharisees of His day that said unless you physically slept with another woman, everything was okay. Jesus gave a much stricter interpretation of their law, which said it wasn't just the physical act, but willfully thinking about it was sin, as well.
The actual greek is "Thou shalt not murder" not "Thou shall not kill." Killing is not a sin, but killing for revenge and hatred is. This allows for killing necessary for the state or by accident to be forgiven.
No problem here!
Sin is about intention.
Sin is not just about intention, it also involves the act itself.
So unless gay people are being gay to spite God, then you have to assume it is because they are gay because they are sincere in their love. It is not a sin then, even by a Christians' true standard. They should be treated by Christians as someone who has not yet fully understood the grace of God.
Assumptions can be a dangerous thing. Just because they may be sincere in their love, doesn't bring God's blessing or approval. People can be sincerely wrong. It is a sin, based on God's true standard.
If you would shoot the wedding of an agnostic, or an aethiest, because you feel that they are just lost and haven't found that revealed word of Jesus--- then you should shoot a gay couples wedding.
Not true. As I stated in a previous post, I will not be involved in a commitment ceremony that God does not endorse or approve of. (NM law does not endorse or recognize it either).
If you don't it is only because you are prejudiced, not because you are Christian.
Well, you are half right: prejudiced, no; Christian, absolutely!!!
Patrick
Edited on Apr 14, 2008 at 05:08 PM
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