From reading the postings about the mk III it seems like this camera is a lost cause. I gave up and bought a used mk IIn in immaculate condition. So far I love this camera!
Canon should move on and start making the mk IV as soon as possible. Most of the parts are available for a perfect camera, which (in my opinion) be the following:
- mk III sensor
- mk III battery
- 8.5 fps and focussing hardware and software from mk IIn. I can't help wandering if the re-designed sub-mirror assembly was a requirement to get to the faster 10fps. 8.5 fps is plenty fast enough and the combination of this frame rate and the mk IIn focussing system works. The fps race is getting ridiculous, much like the MP race in P & S cameras.
- 3 inch LCD with the same pixel/dot density as the Nikon D3. I have seen the Nikon LCD and it is a dramatic improvement over Canon LCD's. I can't believe Canon has almost quadrupled the LCD screen size from early cameras but kept the number of pixels/dots the same.
- maybe a discount for all the suckers that bought mk III's?
the mk3 is a remarkable camera, despite the few flaws it had in it. Since it still is a relatively new camera, I say we give canon some time to revise it, and then lets make some decisions about it :-)
andrewd01 wrote:
- maybe a discount for all the suckers that bought mk III's?
Ouch, I would change the word "suckers" to something else. No need to add salt the wound.... . Indeed, more than just isolated MarkIIIs are duds but not all of them.
andrewd01 wrote:
From reading the postings about the mk III it seems like this camera is a lost cause. I gave up and bought a used mk IIn in immaculate condition. So far I love this camera!
Canon should move on and start making the mk IV as soon as possible. Most of the parts are available for a perfect camera, which (in my opinion) be the following:
- mk III sensor
- mk III battery
- 8.5 fps and focussing hardware and software from mk IIn. I can't help wandering if the re-designed sub-mirror assembly was a requirement to get to the faster 10fps. 8.5 fps is plenty fast enough and the combination of this frame rate and the mk IIn focussing system works. The fps race is getting ridiculous, much like the MP race in P & S cameras.
- 3 inch LCD with the same pixel/dot density as the Nikon D3. I have seen the Nikon LCD and it is a dramatic improvement over Canon LCD's. I can't believe Canon has almost quadrupled the LCD screen size from early cameras but kept the number of pixels/dots the same.
- maybe a discount for all the suckers that bought mk III's?
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Well said Andrew, I couldn't agree more or said it any more clearly.
Cheers-Red
Hmmm, lost cause...
No. I guess for some it has become just that, but for many it is a great body that does what it's supposed to.
So, guess I'm a sucker huh? Well at least this sucker is happy with his purchase.
Funny that you,..... never owning this body..... would start a thread like this
Considering there were possibly several hundred or possibly thousand(s) bodies repaired, only a handful of "fixed" bodies seem to still have issues. I think that is to be expected, nothing will be 100%. Alot of complaints on the focusing issue are people that haven't even had the repair done yet. Small issues are always greatly amplified on the net.
Absolutely bloody marvellous camera. Amazing how another company brings out a camera that finally competes and all of a sudden its game over for the Canon. LMFAO.
Wait until the fuss dies down and the flaws begin to rear their heads and maybe the D3 will come back down to earth with a bit of a bump. There's bugger all wrong with the mk3 and any N version would only need a couple of tweaks to keep the marketers happy.
FF 16.4MP and 10.1MP in 1.28x crop mode
6fps FF, 10fps crop
UDMA support
1MP LCD with wide gamut, scratch resistant
ISO 25-12800 with 0.5 stop improvement in noise above ISO 400)
Totally revised AF, with all 19 points x-type to f/5.6, all can be used with f/8 lenses.
AF EV -2-19
2% spot meter
Grid lines on demand in VF
Dual CF cards
1 stop improvement in DR
14 bit, dual digic 3+ (improved speed and capabilities)
Joystick selection of AF as option
Wireless transmitter built-in
slightly smaller form factor (10mm shorter, 100g lighter)
Liveview 2, with phase detection AF
Ability to use liveview for a monochrome view to see how a B&W shot will look
MLU button, but liveview will eventually obviate need for this.
DEP mode
battery level shows 5% increments, further 20% improvement in shooting life
HDMI output, 1920x1080p
$4499
Who cares if it makes the 1Ds III look like poor value, the 5D II will already do that and that's the nature of technology.
Edited by Pixel Perfect on Jan 09, 2008 at 04:48 PM GMT (Reason: Added more features)
selectable FF 16.4MP (1.28x crop 10.1MP)
12fps
UDMA support
1MP LCD with wide gamut, scratch resistant
ISO 25-12800 with 0.5 stop improvement in noise above ISO 400)
All 52 cross sensors with dual active&passive tripple redundancy AF system
Masking AA filter mechanism
AF EV -2-19
2% spot meter
Gridlines on demand in VF
1 stop improvement in DR
16 bit, tripple digic 3+ (improved speed and capabilites)
1Gbyte onboard memory (expandable)
Joystick selection of AF as option
slightly smaller form factor (10mm shorter, 100g lighter)
Liveview 2, with AF
DEP mode
HDMI output, 1920x1080p
Build in wireless & remote
GPS interface
Well, from someone who owns a "3"
1. Live View with functioning focus for God's sake
2. 2 CF slots instead of 1CF and 1 Lame SD; who uses both types neway??
3. Internal wireless for transmitting and for pocketwizards
4. An LCD where I could tell if my focus is working...
Some honest design principles:
* Retain as much of the MkIII features and components as practical, most importantly the sensor (Mp). Go back to square one with the AF design, evolve a new one in a restrained fashion, building on something that is proven to work well.
* "Detune" the live view feature if/as required to achieve excellence in the still camera operation mode.
* Make the design more stable vis-a-vis assembly and component variations.
* Reduce the emphasis on predictive AF algorithms and increase AF responsiveness, accuracy/precision and focus lock stability.
* Subject the prototypes as well as first production camera units to more rigorous evaluation program. The camera AF should be tested on static and dynamic target models ( physical models, not computer simulation garbage) in the shop. In addition, AF should be field-tested by top-notch photographers in extreme environmental and subject applications.
* Simplify AF related CF's, make them truly effective, provide smartly written user instructions in the camera manual.
* (MSRP to be < $4k.)
So, guess I'm a sucker huh? Well at least this sucker is happy with his purchase.
Funny that you,..... never owning this body..... would start a thread like this
I started the thread because I wanted to buy the mk III, It clearly produces excellent images when it can focus. I know some of you have never had problems but there will always be the thought in the back of your mind that under certain temperature conditions it will let you down. For me to buy a pro camera I want 100% confidence that it will perform as designed.
. Indeed, more than just isolated MarkIIIs are duds but not all of them.
? Well at least this sucker is happy with his purchase.
