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Douglas L wrote:
Big project Jim!

Went to see 100,000+snow geese yesterday, and some swans too. Check out the bird on the left of the first picture

Just excellent Douglas! Pure viewing pleasure!
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Feb 23, 2022 at 10:33 AM
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p.673 #2 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


After a couple of discussions today I am inclined to believe the 75-80MP Canon R5s is the real deal. Hope to be shooting at least a pre-production model at Alliance 2022.


Feb 23, 2022 at 03:35 PM
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p.673 #3 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


No work on our building project today, the roads to Tioga are a bit dicey.


Feb 23, 2022 at 03:39 PM
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Angelbird is coming out with some amazing media products. They are releasing CF Express Cards from 1 to 4TB. I have several of their SSD units for my Atomos Ninja V and they seem to work very well. Shooting 8K video and possible 80MP still frames will create a need for ever larger/faster media cards, Angelbird is a company to watch.


Feb 23, 2022 at 04:20 PM
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p.673 #5 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Ray Swindle wrote:
The second one makes me think of any freeway in Los Angeles. The third one reminds me of Tora, Tora, Tora.




Thank you Ray! The just released official estimate of snow geese count on Monday afternoon (when I was there) is 150,000~. If you haven't seen it, it's amazing when they all blast off at the same time, it truly is like a tornado.
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Why I need a 600/4, "The Douglas Effect".....................


Jim, I recall you got the RF 600 f4 already? That would match well with the R1, if the R1 has decent frame rate per second. 10 FPS in the past was good but now 20 is the minimum.

More 840mm images from Monday.



























Feb 23, 2022 at 06:28 PM
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Douglas L wrote:
Thank you Ray! The just released official estimate of snow geese count on Monday afternoon (when I was there) is 150,000~. If you haven't seen it, it's amazing when they all blast off at the same time, it truly is like a tornado.
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Jim, I recall you got the RF 600 f4 already? That would match well with the R1, if the R1 has decent frame rate per second. 10 FPS in the past was good but now 20 is the minimum.

More 840mm images from Monday.


The geese from Canada fly over our farm in the spring and fall going to and from their winter home on the Texas coast. They look like they are 2000-3000 feet up, yet I can hear every honk. There is always one flight that has a couple of trouble makers when they get over our place. They break away from the end of the echelon then they fly circles attracting the leader causing the flight to fly in circles. Eventually one with sense will take control to head them back on track to the Texas coast.


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Feb 23, 2022 at 06:51 PM
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p.673 #7 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hi Douglas,

No, I have been on the fence as to EF/RF, but I'm firmly headed to RF at this point, so I ordered an RF 600. Canon has me confused now, an R5s and then an R1? I used to keep four bodies at all times, but that wasn't necessarily my plan going forward. I guess I won't know until we see what the features are as they are released. Looking into the crystal ball one could surmise that the R1 will be 100MP with the R5s having 75/80. Interesting times.



Feb 23, 2022 at 09:01 PM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Hoping that this is true:

https://www.canonrumors.com/a-high-megapixel-camera-is-coming-cr2/


Apparently, the 1200mm is not a rumor...



Ray



Feb 23, 2022 at 10:02 PM
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p.673 #9 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


...as well as the RF 800mm...



Ray



Feb 23, 2022 at 10:03 PM
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p.673 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


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That last one is nice and sharp Douglas, pretty impressive given all the atmosphere you were shooting through. I watched the launch online.

I used to go to Florida for work, and I was lucky to see three shuttle launches from a few miles away in Titusville, including a couple at night. There is no way to describe the sound and the vibration that you feel throughout your entire body when something that big lifts off.

I'll also never forget standing outside on a beautiful winter day in Orlando in 2003 watching Columbia leave on what turned out to be her last
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Thank you Mark! Something is brewing in my head...There will be a big airshow at MacDill AFB in Tampa on March 26-27, Blue Angels, F-22, B-2, etc. Then there will be a rocket launch at the Kennedy Space Center on March 30, and birding in Florida is like cheating. Hmm... I have never gone this far for airshows. Need to talk to the wife....



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You know, those new lenses are very tempting but here's my take. I owned and loved my 800mm EF, the 800 is an incredibly fickle tool. The lens itself is wonderfully sharp and fast, but one has to be so cognizant of when and where to shoot it, that one of two things ends up happening, it sits in the case a lot or you shoot a lot of soft images just because you don't want the much money sitting in a case. When everything aligns the images can be spectacular, but the day, the air, the photographer all have to come to an understanding. Warm temps are not it's friend, neither are windy days, nor areas surrounded by concrete, like air shows.

I finally, reluctantly , came to grips with all of the above factors, the final straw was realizing that I just couldn't keep swinging my 800 to the sky, handheld, and not end up on a back surgeon's table. The lens sat in it's case for a couple of years as I wrangled with the idea of parting with it, but I finally just ripped that band-aide off. I owned my 800 for more than a decade, unlike all my other equipment it never came close to paying for itself. That being said, when everything came together it produced some one of a kind imagery. Not sure what they'll be asking for the new RF versions, but I'd guess 14K+ for the 800 and 20 something for the 1200.

On the other hand, look what Douglas does with his 600 + a 1.4! But cost wise, that's a combination that you can live with compared to an 800/1200 prime.



Feb 23, 2022 at 10:57 PM
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p.673 #12 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Just watched both those YouTubes, looks like they really pared down the weight on those two lenses.


Feb 23, 2022 at 11:59 PM
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Found pricing: "The Canon RF800mm f/5.6 L IS USM and Canon RF1200mm f/8 L IS USM are both scheduled to be available in late May 2022 for $16,999 and $19,999, respectively."


Feb 24, 2022 at 12:14 AM
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p.673 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


JWilsonphoto wrote:
You know, those new lenses are very tempting but here's my take. I owned and loved my 800mm EF, the 800 is an incredibly fickle tool. The lens itself is wonderfully sharp and fast, but one has to be so cognizant of when and where to shoot it, that one of two things ends up happening, it sits in the case a lot or you shoot a lot of soft images just because you don't want the much money sitting in a case. When everything aligns the images can be spectacular, but the day, the air, the photographer all have
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Thank you, Jim. Ideally, I would prefer a 600mm f4 with a built-in 1.4 teleconverter, instantly one could be at 840mm f5.6 and back to 600 mm f4. I would take that versatility over a fixed 800mm. Nikon just introduced a z mount 400mm f2,8 with a built-in teleconverter. I must admit, finding the target at 840mm is not always easy. I have lost some opportunities just because I couldn’t find the target in the view finder fast enough. Case in point, when I was shooting the rocket launch last week, all of the sudden the rocket was generating a long and wide white smoke trail, by the time I located the smoke trail in the view finder, the rocket was not in frame anymore, just the smoke trail. When I was watching a snowy owl on a roof few weeks ago, he sat there for a long time, then launched directly towards my direction, he was so close that I just didn’t have time to react and find him in the view finder, otherwise I could have gotten some real closeup portraits of the snowy owl in flight. Need more practice.



Feb 24, 2022 at 04:06 AM
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p.673 #15 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Ray Swindle wrote:
...as well as the RF 800mm...



Ray


Interesting, at 1:00 of the video, I recognize the location where he was shooting the ducks, it's the same place I was shooting several times recently, Oakley Street in Cambridge, Maryland. That location is called "Wall of Shame", because the ducks are in large numbers and they can get as close as 10' because people feed them. I am surprised he chose such an easy place to showcase the lens.



Feb 24, 2022 at 06:26 AM
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Advertisements are always looking for the sure thing...and I am sure they were under some kind of schedule crunch. BTW, your ducks and Jim's look better!


Feb 24, 2022 at 07:23 AM
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p.673 #17 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


EF 600/4.......................







Feb 24, 2022 at 02:18 PM
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p.673 #18 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


While the 600/4 does a wonderful job on subjects like the above, it's real strength lies in creating that shallow depth of field and compressed background that Douglas captures so elegantly.


Feb 24, 2022 at 03:29 PM
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p.673 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Sorry, more aviation from me. Hope you guys have big monitors, consider this the opposite of instagram to me.



AN-124 takeoff from LCK by John Hudson-2 by John Hudson, on Flickr

AN-124 takeoff from LCK by John Hudson-6 by John Hudson, on Flickr

AN-124 takeoff from LCK by John Hudson-13 by John Hudson, on Flickr

AN-124 takeoff from LCK by John Hudson-16 by John Hudson, on Flickr



Feb 24, 2022 at 03:46 PM
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p.673 #20 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Cool stuff AN 124 on the other hand read somewhere that the AN225 was destroyed during an attack on Hostomel airport Ukraine this morning it a rumor not confirmed yet.


Feb 24, 2022 at 03:54 PM
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