Reading about this I almost downloaded & then just as I was about to hit the button noticed that this is not compatible with CS2. So for any of you that notice this new update I thought this might help. Often times you only see the Download Button.
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Camera Raw 4.3.1 update
This new version of the Camera Raw plug-in replaces the original Camera Raw plug-in that was installed with Adobe Creative Suite 3, Adobe Photoshop CS3, Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0 and 6.0 and Premiere Elements 3.0 and 4.0 software.
Important notice:
Read the following installation instructions carefully. Incorrect installation will prevent Adobe Bridge and Camera Raw 4.3.1 from reading raw images correctly.
Support for the following camera has been added in this update. Visit the Camera Raw page for a complete list of supported cameras.
* Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III
* Canon PowerShot G9
* Nikon D3
* Nikon D300
* Olympus E-3
* Olympus SP-560 UZ
* Panasonic DMC-L10
Refer to the following ReadMe file for other updates in this version:
* Camera Raw 4.3.1 ReadMe
The Camera Raw 4.3.1 plug-in is not compatible with versions of Photoshop earlier than Photoshop CS3 or versions of Photoshop Elements earlier than Photoshop Elements 4.0 for Macintosh or Photoshop Elements 5.0 for Windows, or Premiere Elements 3.0 for Windows. The latest versions of the Camera Raw plug-in available for previous Adobe software titles are listed below:
you needed to see that? i sure hope you're not waiting for a CS2 raw update. when CS3 came out the raw updates started only for that version. adobe is done with CS2. you might want to think about CS3 as ACR 4 is a good improvement over the previous version or your other option if you feel CS3 is not worth it is lightroom or any other external raw converter of your choosing. but then either way its going to cost at minimum $100 for a good one and CS3 upgrade w/ ACR 4 is $150.
By now you might want to wait for CS 4 or LR 2 to save on another update - especially if you intend to buy a camera after the next software version is released (in which case Adobe will update ACR for your new camera but only for the newest software)
I don't use PS much and I may get a 5D2 before kong. I decided I'll get the camera first and then get the software. Meanwhile I'm happy enough with using DPP for raw conversions (which I rarely do) and raw image browsing and tweaking, and I use PS occasionally to edit jpegs or 16-bit tiffs as required. I nearly bought LR recently but it was suggested that version 2 is expected in February and I'd rather not waste an update fee unnecessarily.
I don't like Adobe's marketing approach and so I support it as little as possible without resorting to pirate software. Imagine you wanted wet-weather tyres instead of general purpose tyres for your car and you had to buy a new current model car to get them. That's the Adobe approach and it sucks. PS CS2 works fine. All I need or want is a new ACR plug-in (and it is just a plug-in). It does not need a new PS but they insist that you get one or go without.
there are other packages that will do the job. each has its strengths and weaknesses and their acompanying price to be payed. i have ACDsee Pro 2 and i'm less then enthusiastic with their raw conversion but i do like the rest of the product overall and use it as my light table.
here are the facts
if you want to get consistant updates to ACR you will update the the entire product and that is CS 3 and beyond
if you choose not to accept this find you need to find another product that you feel does the job to your satisfaction and use that and go on from there.
OutsideShooter wrote:
I've been thinking about either Lightroom or iView Media Pro. Any thoughts?
They're pretty different products. You're comparing apples and oranges. Does iView (which actually doesn't exist anymore -- it's Microsoft Expression Media now) do conversions? It didn't when it was iView.
LR does conversions and has some image management features which may or may not be enough for you.
Maybe a better choice would be to update to CS3 and get the new Bridge and ACR with it. Both Bridge and ACR are much-improved from CS2.
about 18 months from the original CS3 release and its going to be a slightly different product from the past ones
have you seen the price for lighroom? you might want to thing about the advantage disadvantage columns. now i have it and use it so i will just advise it is a different path vs CSx and will most likely be part of CSx in a generation or 2.
iView or as it is known now as Expression is an asset management program with no capability to raw convert.
if you are looking for an asset management program w/conversion thats where ACDsee Pro steps in but again i'm not a fan of its raw handling.
Well I don't know who to respond to first or last, so let me suffice to say that I am reasonably happy with CS2 & ACR 3.4 (?). But if I decide to upgade, I'll wait.
As for comparing iView (MS Expression media) with Bridge I am trying to accomplish 2 things with 1 package. Namely that I want to RAW convert & Organize within the same application.
I am, as I said, reasonably happy with what ACR does, and very happy with what PSCS2 does, but Bridge is terribly disappointing, in that it seems to allow drifting of images from location to location. Now I must confess that I wonder why as sometimes I am in a particular folder from where I opened an image, then as I am working I think of another & wish to compare, so I'll move to another folder & inadvertantly save within that folder. So I suppose I will have to properly lay blame on myself. At the same time I think Bridge is not good at saving sidecar or xmp files where they always belong either.
Thanks for the heads up on updating. But tomrock feels there is a significant improvement when comparing CS2 & CS3. I suppose it depends on what one needs to accomplish. I am a fairly basic PS user, not that I don't use masks & layers but I do a smaller amount of tricky stuff. I am rather new to this so perhaps when CS4 comes around. I need organization skills & am currently about to start reading the DAM book, ughhh.
Perhaps it is indeed LR that I need.
Edited by OutsideShooter on Dec 09, 2007 at 04:45 PM GMT (Reason: added )
hey i don't use all the capabilities of PS but i like the plugin capability(more so some of the plugins themselves) and the more unified structure to work in. i came from picture publisher many years ago and hated PS. now i'm finding it a very usable program.
you may not have a use for it now but its there and when you do you will be happy you have it.
you are in the pipeline with CS2. it is a $150 outlay for the upgrade. Lightroom is about a $200 outlay. anything else in the same class tends to be in the $150 initial outlay to get in their pipeline at minimum.
It's not the added cost that bugs me, more the utilitarian REAL increase in usability. Don't get me wrong I really like PS & use it often. But I want to be able to easily find my files without it taking 15 minutes.
sjms wrote:
i came from picture publisher many years ago and hated PS. now i'm finding it a very usable program.
Hey, I used to be a PP fan, too! That transition from PP to PS wasn't easy was it? I always thought MicroGrafx threw in the towel too early but I guess they just felt it wasn't worth going up against the Adobe juggernaut.
i hate to say this but thats an asset management issue on you the users part and is not even involving PS. you need to set up your images in a way you can find them. programs like ACDsee will help you learn how to do that
You are probably right, but why do I find entire folders moved into other folders at times? I know I haven't consciously moved them. It's very frustrating.
Alan321 wrote:
By now you might want to wait for CS 4 or LR 2 to save on another update - especially if you intend to buy a camera after the next software version is released (in which case Adobe will update ACR for your new camera but only for the newest software)
I don't use PS much and I may get a 5D2 before kong. I decided I'll get the camera first and then get the software. Meanwhile I'm happy enough with using DPP for raw conversions (which I rarely do) and raw image browsing and tweaking, and I use PS occasionally to edit jpegs or 16-bit tiffs as required. I nearly bought LR recently but it was suggested that version 2 is expected in February and I'd rather not waste an update fee unnecessarily.
I don't like Adobe's marketing approach and so I support it as little as possible without resorting to pirate software. Imagine you wanted wet-weather tyres instead of general purpose tyres for your car and you had to buy a new current model car to get them. That's the Adobe approach and it sucks. PS CS2 works fine. All I need or want is a new ACR plug-in (and it is just a plug-in). It does not need a new PS but they insist that you get one or go without.
While I understand your frustration, I don't think all the blame can be placed on Adobe. If the camera manufactureres would stop playing with their file formats it would be a lot easier on Adobe. You can't expect Adobe to give free updates every time a new camera hits the market. They would be doing free updates once a month if not more often.
the first thing i do is remame the folder (DCIM) to the date i shot starting out with the year 2007 then month 12 then day 10 as in 20071210 then everything lines up by year and works its way down.
20071106
20071202
20071210
OutsideShooter wrote:
It's not the added cost that bugs me, more the utilitarian REAL increase in usability. Don't get me wrong I really like PS & use it often. But I want to be able to easily find my files without it taking 15 minutes.
Then you might want to look into Lightroom. It incorporates the new ACR and provides you a way to manage your files.
My current workflow uses LR for exposure adjustments and then some minor CS3 changes. LR will work with CS2.
Thanks Jim. This is considered a browser not a catalog software right?
Adobe describes it as "New Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom® software is the professional photographer's essential toolbox, providing one easy application for managing, adjusting, and presenting large volumes of digital photographs so you can spend less time in front of the computer and more time behind the lens."
I might be fine with LR.
sj, Good point. Year first makes it easier & quicker to read. Yah I can recall shoots seasonally myself. Then I just start wandering through seasonally until I hit it. Doing a search necessitate that one remembers how he named it.
