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p.2 #1 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Thanks for the test and image file, Mark. The 14-24 looks to be the winner I was hoping it'd be. Once your adapter is ready, my wallet is going to be much lighter.

Cheers!



Dec 06, 2007 at 02:47 PM
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p.2 #2 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Mark: thanks and I am very glad you were able to get a copy quicker than I could. My D3 and the 14–24/2.8 are on the way; I expect both Monday/Tuesday my time.

Very impressive review, and probably not much more needs to be said. Wide and Ultra wide performance is what brought most if us here in the first place, a year or two ago. Amazing times.

Personally, even when N comes out with a higher MP camera, I will stick with the D3; IMHO, there is something special about 12–13Mp and that is enough for all my work, too. The high ISO for me is not about shooting in the dark, but higher shutter speeds when hand-holding longer lenses.



Dec 06, 2007 at 05:10 PM
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p.2 #3 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


I had the D3 and 12-24 in my hands. That combo really is a monster. These enormous pro cameras sort of puts the joy out of photography for me. But of course it also depends on how you work, tripod, studio, commercial and so on.


Dec 06, 2007 at 06:35 PM
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p.2 #4 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Well, for me it means one less workout a week—even the D300 (without a grip) and the 80–200/2.8 is a wrist workout, if you hold it for long enough.

And the Distagon 21/2.8 we pretty hefyt on the 1Ds, as I recall.

I would prefer lighter cameras too, but you can't have everything, it seems.



Dec 06, 2007 at 07:28 PM
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p.2 #5 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Hey Mark any chance of seeing a photo of the adaptor? Does the heavy Nikon lens tend to flex the adaptor? Also what material will the adaptor be made of?
Dan



Dec 06, 2007 at 07:31 PM
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p.2 #6 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


That looks like an impressive lens, if we could mount it on a Canon with AF and AutoAperture fully functional, I would say we have a shift in the force. For reportage this is an important question, maybe not so for landscape and architecture. The lens is quite large and heavy, excellent built quality.


Dec 06, 2007 at 07:47 PM
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p.2 #7 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


The file seems to be sharpened a bit. Any chance we can see it without sharpening other than the default ACR sharpening?

It has good contrast and looks sharp out to the edges judging by the mesh on the trampoline net on the far right.

BTW, if you have Photoshop, the file format is supported, but needs to be installed from the Photoshop CS CD.

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=329546&sliceId=1



Dec 06, 2007 at 08:02 PM
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p.2 #8 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


The performance of Nikon 14-24 is very impressive. Its 3 aspherical elements got to count for something. I hope Canon will eventually come out something that can compete with Nikon 14-24.


Dec 06, 2007 at 09:05 PM
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p.2 #9 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


One thing has to be remembered!
A Canon 5D is not a Canon 1DsMkIII.
The 5D is a lot more forgiving,the 1DsMkIII will the the true colours of this 14-24 Nikkor!
Remember,Nikon designed this lens for their 3D flagship.




Dec 07, 2007 at 12:09 AM
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p.2 #10 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


wil_ret wrote:
One thing has to be remembered!
A Canon 5D is not a Canon 1DsMkIII.
The 5D is a lot more forgiving,the 1DsMkIII will the the true colours of this 14-24 Nikkor!
Remember,Nikon designed this lens for their 3D flagship.


Absolutely . . . as I say in the review, we'll really see what it's made of when we test it against the Zeiss 21mm, Leica 15mm f2.8 and Canon 14mm II on the 1Ds III. But it feels to me like it has resolution to spare, over and above the 60lpmm demands of the 5D – much as the 21mm Distagon inspires confidence.



Dec 07, 2007 at 04:09 AM
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p.2 #11 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


robsteve wrote:
The file seems to be sharpened a bit. Any chance we can see it without sharpening other than the default ACR sharpening?


For robsteve and jonboring (!), I'll upload the RAW file for a week so you can play with it uncorrected or sharpened:
http://www.16-9.net/raw/_MG_2088.CR2



Dec 07, 2007 at 04:12 AM
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marbrink wrote:
I had the D3 and 12-24 in my hands. That combo really is a monster. These enormous pro cameras sort of puts the joy out of photography for me. But of course it also depends on how you work, tripod, studio, commercial and so on.


It is a pretty huge lens, but it's not as heavy as it looks: though it's longer than the 17-35AFS, and looks like it will make the camera lurch over frontwards the moment it's not braced in your hands, the heavier elements seem to be concentrated at the rear of the lens and it balances better than expected. In practice it's slightly less of a handful than the similarly mighty Contax N zoom.



Dec 07, 2007 at 04:15 AM
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p.2 #13 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Kit Laughlin wrote:
Mark: thanks and I am very glad you were able to get a copy quicker than I could. My D3 and the 14–24/2.8 are on the way; I expect both Monday/Tuesday my time.

Personally, even when N comes out with a higher MP camera, I will stick with the D3; IMHO, there is something special about 12–13Mp and that is enough for all my work, too.


Kit: thanks a lot for your loan offer, but Adorama came through with the lens faster than I expected. A pixel pitch close to 10 microns does seem to have a special quality . . . with our current level of technology, it seems the best compromise between resolution and 'unstressed' high ISO performance. No doubt there's a baseline technological explanation for that . . .



Dec 07, 2007 at 04:18 AM
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p.2 #14 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Nikon has really upset the natural balance of things with this lens, and my Zeiss heart hurts too. Not only does it apparently leave its adapter-issues, mirror-shaving-so-it'll work, etc. competition behind (and apparently embarrass Canon's 16-35II), but just like Spinal Tap uses Marshall amps because they go to 11, the Nikon goes to 14. It goes to 14! Man do I want one. And a FF D300-type body to go with it.


Dec 07, 2007 at 04:23 AM
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p.2 #15 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


hubsand wrote:
http://www.16-9.net/raw/_MG_2088.CR2


PS won't open it; "Not the right type of document". DPP says, "This image is corrupted." Could it be the underscore at the beginning of the file name? Or it is just me?



Dec 07, 2007 at 04:27 AM
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p.2 #16 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


The capture is 16.2mb (always a good sign!), so it may not have finished uploading when you asked for it. However, I have also renamed it more helpfully in case of a naming glitch . . . forgot UNIX doesn't like caps . . .

http://www.16-9.net/raw/nikon1424_14mm_f5.cr2



Dec 07, 2007 at 05:36 AM
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p.2 #17 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


I downloaded the file without problems.

I notice there is a bit of CA in the window frames. The edges seem sharper than the middle. I have seen this on some of the Leica ASPH lenses that weren't set up right. It may just be something you have to live with in a zoom or the focus was at a distance closer to the edges.

I prefer testing lenses for focus or sharpness using a scene at infinity so the distance of objects in the frame do not affect focus/sharpness.

Robert



Dec 07, 2007 at 08:58 AM
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p.2 #18 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


That particular shot was focused close to the grass in the foreground than the trees in the background. You'll note that if you track across the bottom edge of the frame from Zone B to Zone C that the more central parts of the image circle are in fact a little better resolved than the edges. More tests and examples, soon . . . .

I see very slight traces of CA in the Nikon D3 captures with this lens, too: but they're very well controlled.



Dec 07, 2007 at 09:52 AM
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p.2 #19 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Is the Nikon a true 14mm at the 14mm setting, or closer to a 15mm?


Dec 07, 2007 at 10:10 AM
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p.2 #20 · Nikon 14-24mm tested on Canon 5D/1Ds III


Wow. While that is really, really impressive...I'd love to see how it fares at f/2.8 and f/16. If it does well there too, it might just replace my Sigma 12-24 and Leica 19mm.

Thanks for the initial comparison Mark.

EDIT:
20 minutes later, I'm even thinking thinking about getting a Nikon FF body to put it on!



Dec 07, 2007 at 12:57 PM
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