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p.3 #11D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Alistair Watson wrote:
I bet the flower was moving so fast it was difficult to track in AI-Servo mode.
Well I find triffids very difficult to photograph as they can move without warning.
I bet the flower was moving so fast it was difficult to track in AI-Servo mode.
Well I find triffids very difficult to photograph as they can move without warning.
Oct 15, 2007 at 08:22 AM
p.3 #21D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
How long after the Mark II was introduced did they release the N?
Oct 15, 2007 at 09:26 AM
p.3 #31D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
GeneO wrote:
I am waiting for the 1D Mark III N, or I might switch to Nikon if they cannot get their act together.
Gene
ooouch... I can't wait till the D3's come out and people start posting the real world photos with the D3, this will be the true test to jump ship (not that I would) if I remember right when the 1DM3 came out the photos online that were published looked pretty amazing to me as well, until the real world shooters start posting and commenting, this is when you need to make your decision.
I have been torn between getting my money back on my 1D3 and purchasing a 1D2n until canon gets there $hit together. Only problem... there are so many things to like about this camera it makes the decision hard to make.
AI servo problem (yep, thats a biggie), if this is cleared up in the upcoming firmware, this camera will rock! (I sure hope its soon).
jomor wrote
So do you think I'm wise to wait, or should I just jump on the band wagon and hope they fix it?Gene
ooouch... I can't wait till the D3's come out and people start posting the real world photos with the D3, this will be the true test to jump ship (not that I would) if I remember right when the 1DM3 came out the photos online that were published looked pretty amazing to me as well, until the real world shooters start posting and commenting, this is when you need to make your decision.
I have been torn between getting my money back on my 1D3 and purchasing a 1D2n until canon gets there $hit together. Only problem... there are so many things to like about this camera it makes the decision hard to make.
AI servo problem (yep, thats a biggie), if this is cleared up in the upcoming firmware, this camera will rock! (I sure hope its soon).
Oct 15, 2007 at 09:46 AM
p.3 #41D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
72chevelle454 wrote:
ooouch... I can't wait till the D3's come out and people start posting the real world photos with the D3, this will be the true test to jump ship (not that I would) if I remember right when the 1DM3 came out the photos online that were published looked pretty amazing to me as well, until the real world shooters start posting and commenting, this is when you need to make your decision.
I have been torn between getting my money back on my 1D3 and purchasing a 1D2n until canon gets there $hit together. Only problem... there are so many...Show more →
I totally agree, with the AI-Servo problem sorted this camera will rock, even more than the 1D2N did!
Like you I am in the same situation, so very close to asking for my money back and even this is going to be nigh on impossible given that I have had it since July. I spoke at length to Canon today, discussing my post calibration troubles, I understand a new firmware, 1.1.2 is coming out shortly (next few weeks) though a beta version is available. If a beta version comes out and fixes the issue, fine I will be happy. However if Canon do nothing and simply release a 1D3N this is when I get seriously scared and want to return my current body. All in all a -expletive deleted- up situation and an impossible decision!
My cautious side says go for the refund however since the clocks go back soon and it is dark so much more, clean ISO 3200 shots and accurate AI-Servo in low light is much needed for what I do.
ooouch... I can't wait till the D3's come out and people start posting the real world photos with the D3, this will be the true test to jump ship (not that I would) if I remember right when the 1DM3 came out the photos online that were published looked pretty amazing to me as well, until the real world shooters start posting and commenting, this is when you need to make your decision.
I have been torn between getting my money back on my 1D3 and purchasing a 1D2n until canon gets there $hit together. Only problem... there are so many...Show more →
I totally agree, with the AI-Servo problem sorted this camera will rock, even more than the 1D2N did!
Like you I am in the same situation, so very close to asking for my money back and even this is going to be nigh on impossible given that I have had it since July. I spoke at length to Canon today, discussing my post calibration troubles, I understand a new firmware, 1.1.2 is coming out shortly (next few weeks) though a beta version is available. If a beta version comes out and fixes the issue, fine I will be happy. However if Canon do nothing and simply release a 1D3N this is when I get seriously scared and want to return my current body. All in all a -expletive deleted- up situation and an impossible decision!
My cautious side says go for the refund however since the clocks go back soon and it is dark so much more, clean ISO 3200 shots and accurate AI-Servo in low light is much needed for what I do.
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:45 AM
p.3 #51D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
stuuke wrote:
How long after the Mark II was introduced did they release the N?
1D2 released 29/01/04, 1D2N released 29/08/05.
Now going for a shower after visiting drpreview to get that information!
How long after the Mark II was introduced did they release the N?
1D2 released 29/01/04, 1D2N released 29/08/05.
Now going for a shower after visiting drpreview to get that information!
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:49 AM
p.3 #61D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
I returned my last Mk III for a refund and am about to buy a 40D since I'm without a camera at the moment.
The precise moment my 40D is nonreturnable, the solution for the Mk III will be announced. I guess it's called "taking one for the team".
The precise moment my 40D is nonreturnable, the solution for the Mk III will be announced. I guess it's called "taking one for the team".
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:57 AM
p.3 #71D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
I think you are all correct, I will wait until the get the AI issues all sorted out. In the mean time I will use my 5d and look around for a replacement 1Dmk2. I just sold mine with the thought of picking up a mk3. UGH!!!
Oct 15, 2007 at 12:18 PM
p.3 #81D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
jomor wrote:
I think you are all correct, I will wait until the get the AI issues all sorted out. In the mean time I will use my 5d and look around for a replacement 1Dmk2. I just sold mine with the thought of picking up a mk3. UGH!!!
Seriously? You sold your 1DII to get a Mark III even with all the talk of AF issues? Brave soul.
Alistair, I feel for you. I had a 10D that Canon couldn't properly calibrate for the better part of a year and 6 trips. Over the 1st year of ownership, Canon had it at their facility longer than I had it in my possession. I was incredibly frustrated, and that was a much cheaper camera and the problem was simple and fixable. Sadly, I'm beginning to think Canon can't (or won't) fix the AF on the 1DIII. If you decide to work up the management food chain to get a refund, I wish you good luck. If the UK is anything like the US, that will be a real uphill battle.
I think you are all correct, I will wait until the get the AI issues all sorted out. In the mean time I will use my 5d and look around for a replacement 1Dmk2. I just sold mine with the thought of picking up a mk3. UGH!!!
Seriously? You sold your 1DII to get a Mark III even with all the talk of AF issues? Brave soul.
Alistair, I feel for you. I had a 10D that Canon couldn't properly calibrate for the better part of a year and 6 trips. Over the 1st year of ownership, Canon had it at their facility longer than I had it in my possession. I was incredibly frustrated, and that was a much cheaper camera and the problem was simple and fixable. Sadly, I'm beginning to think Canon can't (or won't) fix the AF on the 1DIII. If you decide to work up the management food chain to get a refund, I wish you good luck. If the UK is anything like the US, that will be a real uphill battle.
Oct 15, 2007 at 12:54 PM
p.3 #91D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Alistair Watson wrote:
I have been torn between getting my money back on my 1D3 and purchasing a 1D2n until canon gets there $hit together. Only problem... there are so many things to like about this camera it makes the decision hard to make.
AI servo problem (yep, thats a biggie), if this is cleared up in the upcoming firmware, this camera will rock! (I sure hope its soon).I totally agree, with the AI-Servo problem sorted this camera will rock, even more than the 1D2N did!
Like you I am in the same situation, so very close to asking for my money back and even this is going to be nigh on impossible given that I have had it since July. I spoke at length to Canon today, discussing my post calibration troubles, I understand a new firmware, 1.1.2 is coming out shortly (next few weeks) though a beta version is available. If a beta version comes out and fixes the issue, fine I will be happy. However...Show more →
If you can get a refund, and they fix the problems, then you can purchase a new one then, and you are way better off since you have 1DMk2n to carry you over. If you don't get a refund, and they don't fix the problem, then you are semi-screwed.
Just my opinion.
Gene
72chevelle454 wrote
ooouch... I can't wait till the D3's come out and people start posting the real world photos with the D3, this will be the true test to jump ship (not that I would) if I remember right when the 1DM3 came out the photos online that were published looked pretty amazing to me as well, until the real world shooters start posting and commenting, this is when you need to make your decision.I have been torn between getting my money back on my 1D3 and purchasing a 1D2n until canon gets there $hit together. Only problem... there are so many things to like about this camera it makes the decision hard to make.
AI servo problem (yep, thats a biggie), if this is cleared up in the upcoming firmware, this camera will rock! (I sure hope its soon).
Like you I am in the same situation, so very close to asking for my money back and even this is going to be nigh on impossible given that I have had it since July. I spoke at length to Canon today, discussing my post calibration troubles, I understand a new firmware, 1.1.2 is coming out shortly (next few weeks) though a beta version is available. If a beta version comes out and fixes the issue, fine I will be happy. However...Show more →
If you can get a refund, and they fix the problems, then you can purchase a new one then, and you are way better off since you have 1DMk2n to carry you over. If you don't get a refund, and they don't fix the problem, then you are semi-screwed.
Just my opinion.
Gene
Oct 15, 2007 at 04:36 PM
p.3 #101D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
GeneO wrote:
If you can get a refund, and they fix the problems, then you can purchase a new one then, and you are way better off since you have 1DMk2n to carry you over. If you don't get a refund, and they don't fix the problem, then you are semi-screwed.
Just my opinion.
Gene
Damn good point Gene if you put it like that! Thanks
If you can get a refund, and they fix the problems, then you can purchase a new one then, and you are way better off since you have 1DMk2n to carry you over. If you don't get a refund, and they don't fix the problem, then you are semi-screwed.
Just my opinion.
Gene
Damn good point Gene if you put it like that! Thanks
Oct 15, 2007 at 04:40 PM
p.3 #111D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Canon will throw in a 1D III with every 800 f/5.6L IS + 200 f/2.L IS combo they sell, to make sure you see lot's of BWL at Bejing.
Oct 15, 2007 at 05:46 PM
p.3 #121D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Alistair, you have my sympathy. Mine is wonderful in One Shot mode working on butterflies and scenics but just plain sucks when it comes to action shooting. Fortunately, I don't do much of it as I would have beat myself to death with the camera by now but I must say that I am feeling increasingly pissy toward Canon right now. Once the leaves are off the trees it is going into visit the fine folks at Canon repair.
The thing that throws me is how some people are getting very good results while others who obviously have some pretty good experience have lost the ability to take an in focus picture. There are only X numbers of things that it could be so I can't believe that Canon hasn't figured out the problem yet. My guess is that they know exactly what is wrong and it is expensive to fix. I suspect that they are trying to do a workaround with firmware to fix or at least hide the problem because they don't want to do a recall.
The thing that throws me is how some people are getting very good results while others who obviously have some pretty good experience have lost the ability to take an in focus picture. There are only X numbers of things that it could be so I can't believe that Canon hasn't figured out the problem yet. My guess is that they know exactly what is wrong and it is expensive to fix. I suspect that they are trying to do a workaround with firmware to fix or at least hide the problem because they don't want to do a recall.
Oct 15, 2007 at 07:11 PM
p.3 #131D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Wow, looks like it's about time for a Class Action.
Oct 15, 2007 at 10:40 PM
p.3 #141D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Can you get a refund when the camera is already a few months old?
Oct 16, 2007 at 01:20 AM
p.3 #151D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Chris Dees wrote:
Can you get a refund when the camera is already a few months old?
I am trying at present with my retailer.
Canon don't want to help so I am hopeful of a positive outcome from my store, fingers crossed.
Canon ignored my e-mails for almost a month, I then got a reply today saying send it in for calibration. I replied referring them to Alistairs post and his experience after he parted with his own cash to have all his gear calibrated.
Can you get a refund when the camera is already a few months old?
I am trying at present with my retailer.
Canon don't want to help so I am hopeful of a positive outcome from my store, fingers crossed.
Canon ignored my e-mails for almost a month, I then got a reply today saying send it in for calibration. I replied referring them to Alistairs post and his experience after he parted with his own cash to have all his gear calibrated.
Oct 16, 2007 at 01:53 AM
p.3 #161D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Chris Dees wrote:
Can you get a refund when the camera is already a few months old?
In Europe you should based on "conformity". If a product doesn't perform in a way that you reasonably might expect it to (so it doesn't conform to specs), the retailer should be given a chance to solve the problem and if that doesn't work, should give a refund. They have a right to deduct a small and reasonable amount for the time you've used it though. The retailer can in turn hold the producer (or wholesale organization from which he got the product) responsible for his loss.
Now there's a difference between the law and real-world practice. They always try to get away with a broken product and gamble that you won't press charges because of all the hassle, time and money involved. Talking from experience here (though not with cameras but with a typical monday-morning excuse for a car).
Can you get a refund when the camera is already a few months old?
In Europe you should based on "conformity". If a product doesn't perform in a way that you reasonably might expect it to (so it doesn't conform to specs), the retailer should be given a chance to solve the problem and if that doesn't work, should give a refund. They have a right to deduct a small and reasonable amount for the time you've used it though. The retailer can in turn hold the producer (or wholesale organization from which he got the product) responsible for his loss.
Now there's a difference between the law and real-world practice. They always try to get away with a broken product and gamble that you won't press charges because of all the hassle, time and money involved. Talking from experience here (though not with cameras but with a typical monday-morning excuse for a car).
Oct 16, 2007 at 02:19 AM
p.3 #171D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Alistair Watson wrote:
Now going for a shower after visiting drpreview to get that information!
Best to burn your clothing and do some therapy too (PTSD).
Now going for a shower after visiting drpreview to get that information!
Best to burn your clothing and do some therapy too (PTSD).
Oct 16, 2007 at 08:09 AM
p.3 #181D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
CPS in Holland put firmware 1.1.1 on my 1DMkIII.
I did some initial testing tracking Gul's with my 500mm and so far it's looking better than I hoped. A sequence of 17 and all were in focus.
Of course I have to do some better (real life) testing and the wetter is not hot but for me it looks promising!
I did some initial testing tracking Gul's with my 500mm and so far it's looking better than I hoped. A sequence of 17 and all were in focus.
Of course I have to do some better (real life) testing and the wetter is not hot but for me it looks promising!
Oct 16, 2007 at 10:37 AM
p.3 #191D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Thanks Chris.. keep us posted on your results
Oct 16, 2007 at 11:41 AM
p.3 #201D Mark 3 Update - Post Calibration
Does focussing seem any faster Chris? ie if you are lined up on a target and you drift off then reacquite, does this reacquire seem faster than before?
Oct 16, 2007 at 03:22 PM