DynoMoHum wrote:
Li-ION batteries.. of course they have had them on most of the Canon cameras since at least the 300D... (but not on the 1D models prior to the MIII). Li-ION provide much higher power to weight ratio, and in my humble opinion are clearly superior to NiMH.
Couldn't agree more. What's interesting was when the 1D II still persisted with NiMh and the D2X shipped with Li Ion, many Canon users claimed Canon stuck with NiMh because it was superior battery and of course they didn't want to leave 1D users with a pile of useless batteries. Now that Canon has delivered exactly the same battery as the D2X it's suddenly a great idea and much better than NiMh. Not a single negative word.
The bottom buttons don't look that bad to me. They are recessed and don't appear as if they would be all that easy to accidentally pushed. As for using them for their intended function, it should not be that difficult, but then I guess until I held the camera in my hand, I would not be able to say that for sure.
J.D. wrote:
The button layout along the bottom of the screen is hideous. They'd be an ergonomic disaster. I can't imagine using it without the battery grip. Other than that it looks okay but I still have the impression the pics have been jacklegged together.
Hopefully we'll find out soon. Anyone got any idea of a release date or is that just a bit of navel gazing?
$2000 seems a bit on the high side... I'd expect more like $1600 to start and then drop to $1100 or $1200 by next summer. However, these numbers might depend on what lens that comes on it. I personally would like to get a body only... but then I suspect that in the early going, it will likely be easiest to find in some form of a kit...
Aug 04, 2007 at 07:50 AM
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Of course nobody knows the release date, but some publications have reported that Canon has a press conference scheduled for August 21. Others have speculated on the second week in September. For reference the 20D, 5D, and XTi were all released the third week in August.
about the ISO speed showing. Why would the ISO speed in the main display have an LCD design of "A888" and the ISO speed in the viewfinder is displayed with "8888?"
seems kind of odd that they're different if that "A" is so important.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Of course nobody knows the release date, but some publications have reported that Canon has a press conference scheduled for August 21. Others have speculated on the second week in September. For reference the 20D, 5D, and XTi were all released the third week in August.
XTi (400D) and 20D was announced during PhotoKina. But that's only in the even years. So I guess it matters less.
Still I would guess 2. part of August as well.
And if it doesn't come before september this thread might very well be the longest on fm
DynoMoHum wrote:
$2000 seems a bit on the high side... I'd expect more like $1600 to start and then drop to $1100 or $1200 by next summer. However, these numbers might depend on what lens that comes on it. I personally would like to get a body only... but then I suspect that in the early going, it will likely be easiest to find in some form of a kit...
Historically it seems that Canon did give all they wanted to give to a given camera series as soon as they had it ready. It's not like 1Ds have to have before 1D can have, then 5D... and finally the 400D. If it's ready the camera that is due will have it.
So will live preview be a "high-end only" thing? I don't think so. So I am quite sure the 40D will have this.
It's a lot harder to guess if it's going to have ISO 6400. I mean obviosly they could. But how usefull will it be.
It works on the 1D mk III (I assume, haven't actually tried one, but I am quite confident that Canon wouldn't ship a 1D with a useless ISO setting), but it also have 50% more sensor area than the 40D is going to have (I don't believe they are going the change the 1.6x factor).
We don't know what resolution the 40D will have yet, but assuming the same 10 megapixels that 1D mk III have, it means each pixel is 66% of the size as it is on the 1D mk III. It means that the noice level will be 23% better on the 1 D mk III. So if the 1D mk III have a specific quality at ISO 6400, the 40D (at 10 megapixels) would have the same quality at ISO 5200 - if they decide to use same technology and quality of sensor.
So, - since megapixels, ISO and other easily measurable and quantifying things sell better than the somewhat more fussy imagequality. I am quite sure it will have ISO6400 as well.
If Canon decides to change the resolution to 12 megapixels instead the 'same quality' ISO will of course be a bit lower, but I still think they will include that.
Some have speculated on weather sealing. And the image might actually suggest that. Mind you though that the image might not be true.
It might have, but I don't think it will. I think this is one of the selling points of the 1D series.
DynoMoHum wrote:
What exactly does 'jacklegged' mean?
The bottom buttons don't look that bad to me. They are recessed and don't appear as if they would be all that easy to accidentally pushed. As for using them for their intended function, it should not be that difficult, but then I guess until I held the camera in my hand, I would not be able to say that for sure.
Jacklegged means badly put together, like it was done in a rush. Just looks like a slightly dodgy Photoshop job to me but I could be wrong. I've probably seen too many of these sort of "leaked" pictures to be totally convinced.
To my way of thinking they are far too close to the bottom of the camera. I don't know if they would be prone to accidental pushing but they look to me as though they would be very difficult to operate comfortably in that position.
DynoMoHum wrote:
$2000 seems a bit on the high side... I'd expect more like $1600 to start and then drop to $1100 or $1200 by next summer. However, these numbers might depend on what lens that comes on it. I personally would like to get a body only... but then I suspect that in the early going, it will likely be easiest to find in some form of a kit...
Meanwhile I've been considering a 30D. They are already pretty well priced but once the 40D hits the shops, the 30D will be a blue-eyed bargain!
DaDane wrote:
Historically it seems that Canon did give all they wanted to give to a given camera series as soon as they had it ready. It's not like 1Ds have to have before 1D can have, then 5D... and finally the 400D. If it's ready the camera that is due will have it.
So will live preview be a "high-end only" thing? I don't think so. So I am quite sure the 40D will have this.
It's a lot harder to guess if it's going to have ISO 6400. I mean obviosly they could. But how usefull will it be.
It works on the 1D mk III (I assume, haven't actually tried one, but I am quite confident that Canon wouldn't ship a 1D with a useless ISO setting), but it also have 50% more sensor area than the 40D is going to have (I don't believe they are going the change the 1.6x factor).
We don't know what resolution the 40D will have yet, but assuming the same 10 megapixels that 1D mk III have, it means each pixel is 66% of the size as it is on the 1D mk III. It means that the noice level will be 23% better on the 1 D mk III. So if the 1D mk III have a specific quality at ISO 6400, the 40D (at 10 megapixels) would have the same quality at ISO 5200 - if they decide to use same technology and quality of sensor.
So, - since megapixels, ISO and other easily measurable and quantifying things sell better than the somewhat more fussy imagequality. I am quite sure it will have ISO6400 as well.
If Canon decides to change the resolution to 12 megapixels instead the 'same quality' ISO will of course be a bit lower, but I still think they will include that.
Some have speculated on weather sealing. And the image might actually suggest that. Mind you though that the image might not be true.
It might have, but I don't think it will. I think this is one of the selling points of the 1D series....Show more →
I'll have a double shot of the same thing he's having! I love it!
If those photos are a 'dodgy photoshop job', I'd like to see a good photoshop job.... I can't see anything in that photo that would lead me to believe it's not real. I've seen a lot of fakes too, and I don't consider this to be one of them... but yes, I could be wrong.
30D bargains... Yeah, even at todays prices (roughly $1000 USD) a 30D is a good value. However to some degree it's like buying a year end card model... It's also worth less if you ever wanted to sell it and it's simply not the new model. Then the new camera buyers will pay a premium during the first few months it's out... and after that the price will drop and it will be worth much less then they paid for it. Not that many of us buy and sell cameras that often. I don't typically rush right out and buy new things... but I really want a new camera to replace my 300D... and while the 30D is a nice camera... I want something NEW... partly because I will have this next camera for a long time to come and when technology moves as fast as it does today, I'd rather have the newest technology in a camera I intend to be using for at least 3 years form now.
-> 6.5fps and 3fps selectable
-> RAW of12 MB (3888 x 2592) and sRAW of 7 MB (1936 x 1288)
-> 24 custom functions (C-Fn) and 3 personalized setting (C1,C2 and C3)
-> 3″ LCD with 230.000 pixels and 7 brightness adjustments
-> ISO in the viewfinder
-> new wireless transmitter WFT-E3
-> New kit lens: Canon 18-55 f3,5-5,6 IS
I really like the specs, specially moving from a 350D
I would like to know about the VF, weather sealing and noise levels, but as it is, I think the upgrade is worth.
Mauro Moretti wrote:
OK, I will translate new information from Rafa Irusta, at http://www.dsmcomunicacion.net/blog/
(Rafa leaked exactly the specs of the 1dmkIII)
-> 6.5fps and 3fps selectable
-> RAW of12 MB (3888 x 2592) and sRAW of 7 MB (1936 x 1288)
-> 24 custom functions (C-Fn) and 3 personalized setting (C1,C2 and C3)
-> 3″ LCD with 230.000 pixels and 7 brightness adjustments
-> ISO in the viewfinder
-> new wireless transmitter WFT-E3
-> New kit lens: Canon 18-55 f3,5-5,6 IS
I really like the specs, specially moving from a 350D
I would like to know about the VF, weather sealing and noise levels, but as it is, I think the upgrade is worth.
Regards....Show more →
Thank you for the specs however there are a couple more that will probably be there, one for sure. These have been talked about all over the place.
Self Cleaning Sensor (for sure)
Live view (good possibility)
Mauro Moretti wrote:
OK, I will translate new information from Rafa Irusta, at http://www.dsmcomunicacion.net/blog/
(Rafa leaked exactly the specs of the 1dmkIII)
-> 6.5fps and 3fps selectable
Good speed.
-> RAW of12 MB (3888 x 2592) and sRAW of 7 MB (1936 x 1288)
3888 X 2592 is the same resolution as the XTi - 10.1 MPX. The RAW files are coming out around 12 MB though in terms of file size.
-> 24 custom functions (C-Fn) and 3 personalized setting (C1,C2 and C3)
-> 3 LCD with 230.000 pixels and 7 brightness adjustments
-> ISO in the viewfinder
-> new wireless transmitter WFT-E3
-> New kit lens: Canon 18-55 f3,5-5,6 IS
I really like the specs, specially moving from a 350D
I would like to know about the VF, weather sealing and noise levels, but as it is, I think the upgrade is worth.
Regards.
Seems like a respectable upgrade in terms of what's mentioned. As a 5D owner, I can appreciate the 3 personalized settings. I believe that the 30D already has ISO in the viewfinder, though only during the setting mode.
The IS kit lens is an interesting move. I wonder what the price will be on that. I'm sure that it'll be cheaper than the 17-85. Wonder if they'll pull out a 17-200 type zoom.
I also wonder about any changes in the viewfinder, AF, and noise levels. I would expect DigIc III processing, as well as the sensor cleaning function - those are almost guaranteed.
One question that comes to mind is whether the ~10 mpx sensor in the new 40D (assuming this is true) will be the same one as in the XTi, or if it will be an updated one. I know that the 30D and 350D/XT did NOT share the same sensor.
The most important thing to me, moving from 350D with C. EF-s 10-22(was pretty expensive 
)