DavidP, congrats on forcing canon to put micro focus adjustment into the user interface. Must be satisfying to see your years of hard work finally pay off
To me the live view seems more useful in the field, when combined with the remote viewing option - as someone above mentioned, on the tops of backboards, on the rail at a horse race, directly above the Start/Finish line at an F1 race - all the places a Photographer can't be, but a camera on a clamp and boom/rail/board - whatever - can be. Now you can see 'through the lens' from a block away (well, maybe not that far - but I exagerate for effect).
In the studio, I'm not sold on the live view so much, save for big productions where you'd have art directors, clients etc chimping over your shoulder - now you can broadcast to a computer and have them all shuttled off to a corner, and out of your way. Come to think of it - that must be one of the main reasons this was developed!
rockitman wrote:
Any dealer's taking pre-orders ? I would appreciate any dealer recommendations doing so outside of New York State. Thanks
Now that the announcement honeymoon is now over and reality has set in, I think that I will wait until the first guinea pig lot is produced and shipped. History has shown that the first production run is NOT as reliable as the later runs. I am sure there may be a few snafu's/bugs....Darn !!! I so much enjoy instant gratification...guess I will hold my horses.
Nill Toulme wrote:
Well I'm pretty well floored. I really didn't want to buy a new camera this year (other than maybe a used 1DsMkII after the prices tank on the 1DsMkIII announcement...), but sheesh this is going to be hard to resist.
You can't say they haven't been listening to the users. There's something there for everybody and almost every issue (other than perhaps physical size) seems to have been addressed. Did they leave anything out? Auto ISO?
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I'm surprised the buffer isn't bigger. Still not back to 1/500 flash sync. I'm hoping the pleasant surprise to come is meaningfully nicer files than the 1DII.
chris78cpr wrote:
I for one after reading the specs in detail think that to anyone who isn't a sports/pj shooter this wont be a big deal.
I tend to disagree. As a studio only camera, this may not be the best option. For people who do a wide range of shooting, the 1DMkIII is a pretty compelling camera. Sure 10+ FPS is overkill for most people but the improved AF isn't. The benefit of improved noise and the improved handling highlights are certainly not limited to sports/pj shooters. Shedding a half a pound will be appreciated more by the hiker than the guy on the sidelines using a monopod. I won't need to be at the White House or the SuperDome to appreciate the sensor cleaning and the improved ergonmics. The list pretty much goes on and on.
IMO, this is a camera that covers most of the bases in an exceptional manner and as such represents a milestone in digital photography.
dcmiller wrote:
DavidP, congrats on forcing canon to put micro focus adjustment into the user interface. Must be satisfying to see your years of hard work finally pay off
Hrow wrote:
IMO, this is a camera that covers most of the bases in an exceptional manner and as such represents a milestone in digital photography.
Henry, if this was full frame I would agree with you. While I am impressed with the technologies that went into the 1DIII, the fact that it has a crop sensor rules it out as an all-around camera for me.
That does not mean that it is not a milestone camera or that it won't be used to cover a lot of the bases. It does mean, though, that the first full-frame camera to do 10 fps (just like the EOS 1V does) will be THE all-around camera! One that can be used for ANY assignment.
Numfar wrote:
To me the live view seems more useful in the field, when combined with the remote viewing option - as someone above mentioned, on the tops of backboards, on the rail at a horse race, directly above the Start/Finish line at an F1 race - all the places a Photographer can't be, but a camera on a clamp and boom/rail/board - whatever - can be. Now you can see 'through the lens' from a block away (well, maybe not that far - but I exagerate for effect).
Can you also adjust the focus remotely? Without that, you'll have to rely on preset focus. Which, for some applications, will be OK, I'm sure.
Couple of detail I think are important.
- exposure sensor on the 580EX II for ambient. PC socket!
- photodiode size on the III is the same as the IIn. So the resolution increase may not be the usual two steps forward (pixel count) and one step backward (quality per pixel)
- "second generation on-chip noise reduction" is new language
- is "improved highlight handling" any different that underexposing one stop and moving the grey point in photoshop? I doubt it.
So why does Phil from DPReview seem to be in such a tizzy about this? It seems like he takes the fact that Canon didn't give him all the info as a personal affront.
"As has become 'the norm' with Canon we had no information on this product before announcement, so no preview or analysis. I'm sure many were expecting an EOS 30D update, well not yet.
Phil: As has become Canon's approach we had no information on this camera before embargo, this lack of trust they show with their most important (and reliable) publications only continues to damage their image within the industry."
rudiphoto wrote:
Henry, if this was full frame I would agree with you. While I am impressed with the technologies that went into the 1DIII, the fact that it has a crop sensor rules it out as an all-around camera for me.
That does not mean that it is not a milestone camera or that it won't be used to cover a lot of the bases. It does mean, though, that the first full-frame camera to do 10 fps (just like the EOS 1V does) will be THE all-around camera! One that can be used for ANY assignment.
Rudi, one "nice" thing this camera does for Canon is push people into the 1DsII replacement. The "better" 1DIII rumored -12mp FF with dynamic crop mode- would have taken sales from the more expensive camera. So perhaps smart product placement by Canon.
rudiphoto wrote:
Henry, if this was full frame I would agree with you. While I am impressed with the technologies that went into the 1DIII, the fact that it has a crop sensor rules it out as an all-around camera for me.
That does not mean that it is not a milestone camera or that it won't be used to cover a lot of the bases. It does mean, though, that the first full-frame camera to do 10 fps (just like the EOS 1V does) will be THE all-around camera! One that can be used for ANY assignment.
While I understand your perspective, I would have been disappointed if it had been FF. 20-21mm on the wide side is more than enough for me and the 1.3x lets me tinker with birding without spending $5K + on a 500mm.
dcmiller wrote:
Rudi, one "nice" thing this camera does for Canon is push people into the 1DsII replacement. The "better" 1DIII rumored -12mp FF with dynamic crop mode- would have taken sales from the more expensive camera. So perhaps smart product placement by Canon.
Looks like they are milking the market for all it's worth. The two models will become one eventually, apparently now is not the time. Not yet!
Casey L. Buell wrote:
So why does Phil from DPReview seem to be in such a tizzy about this? It seems like he takes the fact that Canon didn't give him all the info as a personal affront.
"As has become 'the norm' with Canon we had no information on this product before announcement, so no preview or analysis. I'm sure many were expecting an EOS 30D update, well not yet.
Phil: As has become Canon's approach we had no information on this camera before embargo, this lack of trust they show with their most important (and reliable) publications only continues to damage their image within the industry."...Show more →
He played by the rules (no leaks) while others didn't. He's recognized as the premier DP web site. "MOM, why should I be punished".
I expect a related thing happened when Michael R. wrote that "nothing new at Canon" article a couple of months ago. He heard about a lot of cameras being tested, yet he was out of the loop.
It would seem there's no impact on sales to the 1 series by not giving these guys a preview. Demand can't be met for months anyways. But it is nice to get their opinions.
dcmiller wrote:
Rudi, one "nice" thing this camera does for Canon is push people into the 1DsII replacement. The "better" 1DIII rumored -12mp FF with dynamic crop mode- would have taken sales from the more expensive camera. So perhaps smart product placement by Canon.
I think you nailed it on the head. There are thems that need FF and there are thems that don't. Really two pretty different markets and a dynamic crop mode wouldn't serve anyone (including Canon) as well as two separate bodies.
Hrow wrote:
While I understand your perspective, I would have been disappointed if it had been FF. 20-21mm on the wide side is more than enough for me and the 1.3x lets me tinker with birding without spending $5K + on a 500mm.
That is what cropping is for! A full frame sensor with the same pixel size would be more than enough, and you could always crop it to the 10 megapixels that you get with the smaller sensor anyway. BUT... you can never get those extra pixels if you ever need to go WIDE, not with a crop sensor.
