Marked as discontinued means inventory is running low. The last batch of 1vs could have been made several years ago. Web information supports the retail channel.
If i were Canon I would probably make a bunch of 1vs in the last batch. This would seem to be a highly meaningful event for the company. How many of the older execs at Canon would have envisioned during their first week at Canon that in 2007, they are the largest camera company in the world, but no longer making film camera?
Geoff Costello wrote:
Thanks Lordcarl - gives Canon a great excuse to release more products and lenses for us in August / September this year...
I remember hearing (how true it is I don't know) that Canon made it's L series lenses in large batches and the egineering resources to design new ones meant that it could generally only design and release 2-4 new lenses a year... So that will be fun too.... An indefinite refresh upgrade of the lenses twice a year, matched by the same for DSLRs...
You are welcome.
According to the video link I provided a few pages ago, the narration says all L lenses' are hand-assembled (elements, barrels, IC chips and other parts)rather than mass-assembled by robots or other sophisticated machineries, hence the limited production capacities per year for all types and their higher prices as compared to consumer EF lenses and non-L types.
RikWriter wrote:
Ummm...tell me you didn't REALLY believe that, right?
I believe it's possible. Maybe someone with knowledge of Japanese business can chime in.
Or someone spilled their coffee into the Little Erwin sensor making machine. I hate it when that happens.
lordcarl wrote:
According to the video link I provided a few pages ago, the narration says all L lenses' are hand-assembled (elements, barrels, IC chips and other parts)rather than mass-assembled by robots or other sophisticated machineries, hence the limited production capacities per year for all types and their higher prices as compared to consumer EF lenses and non-L types.
But the Canon Japan start to finish process shown in the video is only true for the four super tele lenses, as I understand it.
dcmiller wrote:
and now carl suggesting a sort of governmental intervention asking Canon to slow down.
That camera council is not a government watchdog, just a panel/grouping that oversees the camera industry in Japan and its members are made up of influential business people from both the camera industry and outside as well as some representatives of Japan's MITI (Ministry of International Trade and Industry). dcmiller wrote:
If i were Canon I would probably make a bunch of 1vs in the last batch. This would seem to be a highly meaningful event for the company. How many of the older execs at Canon would have envisioned during their first week at Canon that in 2007, they are the largest camera company in the world, but no longer making film camera?
I agree. The last batch was assembled even before the EOS-1D MK II was announced. Success of the original 1D mean the assembly line could not cope with maintaining 3 models at the same time = EOS 3, 1v and 1D. Furthermore, the first two were no longer selling like hot cakes ever since the 1D came into the picture.
Canon has been the world's largest camera maker from the film days - since 1983 onwards. I doubt any of the original execs who joined Canon 70 years ago are still around today or working there still.
I am sure that council did advise Canon for 2006 but neither the council nor Canon is gonna admit it as this would embarassed the competitions (a lot) and to a certain extent, making Canon looking a bit silly too for agreeing to it.
RikWriter wrote:
That wiki article says nothing about what we're discussing really.
Not with specifics, no, but the wiki paints a very telling picture of government involvement in Japan. It may not have the impact it once had, but at least it leaves me with the impression that an informal request to Canon to slow down in order to keep the competition, and thus the market, healthy, is entirely in the Realm of the Possible.
lordcarl wrote:
I am sure that council did advise Canon for 2006 but neither the council nor Canon is gonna admit it as this would embarassed the competitions (a lot) and to a certain extent, making Canon looking a bit silly too for agreeing to it.
Well, anyways. I want my Big Erwin. I want it small and I want it at PMA. What's the phone number for this council and how do I say "Knock it off" in Japanese?
Back to rumours: If the 800 5.6 DO is announced, what will be its front diameter? Is it as larger or larger than a non-DO 800 would have been? Each item in EOSfun's lens list makes a lot of sense. Doesn't mean it will happen, of course. But each lens addresses a specific concern of a market segment.
Back to rumours: If the 800 5.6 DO is announced, what will be its front diameter? Is it as larger or larger than a non-DO 800 would have been? Each item in EOSfun's lens list makes a lot of sense. Doesn't mean it will happen, of course. But each lens addresses a specific concern of a market segment.
Simple optics dictate that the front element has to be at least 800/5.6 = 142.8 mm in diameter. Allow for a little margin, and I'd say that it'd have a 150 mm diameter front element. The fact that it uses diffraction optics will only shorten the lens length, not magically compress the light path diameter of the frontmost lens element.
jamesf99 wrote:
The thought police are one their way, but the FBI won't take you down until your phone has been tapped, your family and relatives have been put under surveillance, and Gitmo has been notified of your arrival.
Stay strong and remember, the beatings and torture are only physical. They can take your eyes, your limbs, and most of your internal organs but you'll survive unless you see Dick Cheney walk through the door with a shotgun, in which case you better duck!
C'mon, you make the FBI sound like the Scientologists
Just noticed that the specs on my new Pocket Wizard II Plus show it capable of triggering at 12 fps... any chance that they'd have had some insight into keeping up with the soon-to-be released 1D replacement?
What is the one specific camera product you are confident will be announced at PMA?
Don't answer with what you want to happen. You don't even have to like the product.
Donald, I think you should get yourself admitted to an Erwin Anonymous Clinic, because this Erwin obsession of yours is getting out of hand
As far as your question goes ... tough call, but if I would have to put money on one candidate, I'd say the 40D is the most urgent. It's not just lost sales in a lucrative segment of the market, it's also the biggest money maker lens-wise, because the average xxD buyer will get more glassware than a typical xxxD user.
netexpress wrote:
That 800 DO would make one heck of a little bird lens! I would love it!
I couldn't see it going for less than the current 600, could you?
Gosh no. Hopefully under $10K USD. If people are going to freak out about a full frame Little Erwin, this might be a good time to announce a new longest lens.
(Yes, I know that a 1200mm custom lens can be ordered. A new Hubble can be custom ordered)
