netexpress wrote:
Man you guys are fast. I didn't even see that. Yes, the 1DIIn has a bigger LCD than the 1DsII or 1DII. Could they just have been 1DIIn's?
Well, obviously 1D MkII N has a larger LCD, but that camera had
even a large one that that... At least that's what I think I saw...
stanj wrote:
With all due respect, the question was "what would GPS be good for", not "what would everyone want to use it for". Did you hear about the questions about the "usefulness" of the ENIAC back in the days? Or, today, how useful is digital zoom? Still, pretty much all P&S cameras have it. Sometimes, adding a feature only as a marketing gimmick is exactly reason enough, even if _some_ people end up actually using it.
Bad analogy, unless you think that GPS in a mass-marketed camera (when handheld GPS units are a dime a dozen) is a comparable giant leap forward in technology to that which ENIAC represented.
ENIAC: world-shaking technological event which changed the face of everyday life for all humans. GPS in camera: useful for small percentage of photographers. I'm not seeing the correlation.
But if Canon puts one in their cameras, it's no skin off my nose. (it won't change my world, however)
danmitchell wrote:
"And I yearn for a 25-324mm f/2 MegaMoolahgon Whamulator, Dan. So how is the CA on that on the wide end anyhow?"
Nothing you can't correct in PS, even wide open. And it diminishes once you get past about f/2.8.
I tend to avoid PS for corrections - it's too common. Instead try CaptureFlexPro v10.4 and pipe the output into LightLux 11.6. Just avoid version 12 and above which crashes a lot. It works best on Linux running on a quantum computer. I rent computer time from fermilab to process my images. Once processed photograph them on film and drum scan them for best results. Nothing like the look of film!
Joel Slack wrote:
Bad analogy, unless you think that GPS in a mass-marketed camera (when handheld GPS units are a dime a dozen) is a comparable giant leap forward in technology to that which ENIAC represented. ENIAC: world-shaking technological event which changed the face of everyday life for all humans. GPS in camera: useful for small percentage of photographers. I'm not seeing the correlation.
ENIAC: minor specialist computer architecture not much used (Harvard architecture). Not even the first electronic computer. GPS: world-shaking technology affecting every day life more and more.
Just wait till GPS really gets going and your clothing RFID weave includes a GPS interface to wireless connect to your car, your laptop, your house, your bicycle, your iPod/iPhone/wristwatchphone, your cross-trainer shoes, your briefcase, oh and by the way your P&S, your DSLR, and your Holga. You ain't seen nothing yet.
"The future's already here, it's just not very evenly distributed." William Gibson.
Geoff, yep... I was just... _poke_ Seems people talk about the Canon stand as if the booth is going to be filled with ONLY the lastest new DSLR. They sometimes get so caught up in their own hype!
Funny thing about that Canon rep. Hasn't shown his face much lately. He knows I'm going to bail him up in the corner about the 1Ds. It occured to me that when they said no changes in the first half of the year, that that doesn't include the 1 series (we don't stock on the shelves, but we can get them).
Both of you do not have to wait until PMA 2007 to see what Canon has in store for us - that trade show is just a venue for the first public viewing of the latest EOS-related items - those that are not able to visit it can read about the specs and drool over the images of any new EOS DSLR from most of Canon's own websites dedicated to the new products, at about the same time as the show or a few days earlier - March 1.
Ha! If Canon DO announce something pre-PMA, I'll be in a training seminar learning about the new camera and the new features BEFORE anyones had a chance to get their grubby little hands on it. (I'll make a point of sitting in the front row this time!)
I even have it on tape. In one shot there are two and then then three 1Ds right next to each other obstructing the TV camera's view of Mannings' face. The two on the left have an LCD that looks to be considerably larger than the one on the right.
But isn't that part of the "N" upgrade?
A few seconds later another 1D intrudes on the left that appears to have an even larger LCD but I can't tell if it's an optical illusion or not.
Not an optical illusion - Canon reps have been talking about the possibility of featuring a 3-inch screen on a 1-series ever since the 1D II N was announced together with the 5D; they even mentioned it may no longer be an LCD-type but an OLED version. Of course, those reps never said the next 1-series would definitely uses a 3-inch screen, it is possible to fit one on the existing design!
netexpress wrote:
Am I the only one that would be excited to see Canon launch a whole new line of printers? They seem to be very interested and capable. I love my little Epson but I wouldn't mind seeing some competition from Canon. I hate the tiny little bits of ink they make you buy for example. Wouldn't some competition end that kind of nonsense? Also I really like Canon support and I think they would be really nice to deal with in terms of printer support. They seem to me to be interested in the high end photo printer space...
I've posted this before, but it will, sadly I might add, answer your questions regarding competition in the printer business.
I attended a "photo show" sponsored by a local retailer here in Boston last October and spent time with the Epson rep. I asked him point blank about the cost of inks and would Epson do anything to produce a bulk feed system or the like. He looked me directly in the eye and said "we're in the ink business, not the printer business". Case closed. Epson gives you the printer, and they take you to the cleaners every time you need new ink. Think Gillette. It's the razor and the blades. Give away the razor, and charge a 10,000% markup on the blades.
As I'm sure you know, Canon has extensive printer experience (more B&W) and will do the same if they approach the top. The ink is where the money is, not the hardware. No one wants to give this up. Not Epson, Canon, HP, or any new comer that might try their hand in the business.
Edited by jamesf99 on Feb 05, 2007 at 11:17 AM GMT
Exit wrote:
I want to see some screen caps of these larger LCD's from the superbowl!!
I second this. I was watching the superbowl as well and I didn't notice any 3 inch screens. Sounds like you guys are getting a case of the pre-PMA hallucinations.
Joel Slack wrote:
Bad analogy, unless you think that GPS in a mass-marketed camera (when handheld GPS units are a dime a dozen) is a comparable giant leap forward in technology to that which ENIAC represented.
I was more thinking along these lines: the reaction to "why would anyone want to have GPS in their camera" was pretty much the same as "why would anyone want a computer" with the ENIAC or "there will be maybe 100 people worldwide who'll be able to drive a car" some 120 years ago. Just because you can't imagine it in the present, it doesn't mean it's not in the future.
According to Malasyan Canon Executive in Chief declarations, during the present year, Canon is going to release more than 100 new products !!! . We hope that the DSRL line get a 5% at least !!!
Monito wrote:
ENIAC: minor specialist computer architecture not much used (Harvard architecture). Not even the first electronic computer. GPS: world-shaking technology affecting every day life more and more.
Just wait till GPS really gets going and your clothing RFID weave includes a GPS interface to wireless connect to your car, your laptop, your house, your bicycle, your iPod/iPhone/wristwatchphone, your cross-trainer shoes, your briefcase, oh and by the way your P&S, your DSLR, and your Holga. You ain't seen nothing yet.
"The future's already here, it's just not very evenly distributed." William Gibson.
Monito, ENIAC ushered in the computing age, and it was used extensively, particularly by the military. And I didn't say that GPS wasn't a great technology, what I said (very clearly) was that it's not critical for use inside a camera except for a very small percentage of all photographers. I personally have a hand-held GPS unit, and find it to be more than sufficient for determining my location.
stanj wrote:
I was more thinking along these lines: the reaction to "why would anyone want to have GPS in their camera" was pretty much the same as "why would anyone want a computer" with the ENIAC or "there will be maybe 100 people worldwide who'll be able to drive a car" some 120 years ago. Just because you can't imagine it in the present, it doesn't mean it's not in the future.
All right, I'll concede that point. Completing the analogy, there weren't ENIAC's in everyone's house back then, either. We'll see what the future holds.
Juan55 wrote:
According to Malasyan Canon Executive in Chief declarations, during the present year, Canon is going to release more than 100 new products !!! . We hope that the DSRL line get a 5% at least !!!
["Nikt" mode]
98 different printer papers and three P&S's...
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The Ricoh 500SE GPS-ready Digital Camera
Capture Location Data with Your Images. High-resolution Rugged Camera Optimizes GIS Mapping Workflows
...The camera's integrated precision GPS module provides for an all-in-one, easy- to-use device for geo-coding images and video at the time of capture. For applications that require even greater precision, the camera is capable of receiving NMEA data streams from external GPS devices via its on-board Bluetooth(R) radio.
