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p.135 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


If all that is going to be released on or around PMA is a new 30D with a 10MP sensor, then there are going to be alot of disappointed people around. This is hardly the D200 killer that everyone expects!

If no 1D series FF is announced soon I am going to buy myself a newish 1Ds Mark 2 and be happy!



Feb 21, 2007 at 04:54 AM
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p.135 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


i told ya few weeks ago that probably canon guys will laugh their butt when seing what a crazy rumor thing they created here...
well, i must say THIS rumor thing will put them in hospital, for sure...nobody, not eaven canon officials, can not resist to that much and that intense laugh...
really, they are old and sick, do u guys really want to kill them all??

i suppose that is the reason they do not make any announcement: they have red the start of this topic with expectations and wishes, start laughing and one by one they got into hospital or into casket ....

guys, please, be serious just 2 weeks or else they will all die and we will have NOTHING at this PMA...

GO CANON...u did it again...u f us, u get our money and on top of that we proovide a deadly laugh session each day..cool...i want to be a canon guy...it can't be much fun than that i suppose...and it must be well payed too as it is very dangerous cause of the laugh-death thing so...

Edited by parintele on Feb 21, 2007 at 12:08 PM GMT



Feb 21, 2007 at 05:07 AM
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p.135 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Consider this link:
http://news.com.com/2061-10801_3-6156419.html

and this one
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/01/hd_photo_format.html

And consider a posting by one of the faithful here that:
Canon’s new 1D IIN replacement had:
> JPEG, RAW and HD Photo
> Dual DIGIC III
> 10mp & 10 fps
> 6400 ISO
> Special CS3 and DPP support for HD Photo

And (sob) that the 1Ds III and 40D and medium format would all not be seen at this PMA... (Madness if true since the 40D is ready by all reliable accounts and a photographer contact of mine now in NYC has seen the 1Ds II replacement at one of the studios there) Perhaps (as has been hinted) Canon are going to draw things out with several announcements accross the year in this their 20th anniverasy of the EOS system)

Consider that the posting (from about 1 hour ago) lasted maybe 60 seconds before it was deleted (presumably by its author)...

Tomorrow will be interesting




Feb 21, 2007 at 05:07 AM
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p.135 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Joel, I was just kidding with you but expressing my disappointment should y'r prediction come true. Let's wait and see....


Feb 21, 2007 at 05:28 AM
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p.135 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Hey Geoff, I noticed that post too. The eye roll and all.


Feb 21, 2007 at 05:54 AM
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p.135 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Google is my friend...

Here's an interesting test of HD Photo (Windows Media Photo until recently) against other standards... It seems like a good JPEG2000 codec (a nice open standard) easily beats HD Photo on most things for high compression http://www.compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/pdf/wmp_codec_comparison_en.pdf

And here is a counter (on MSN of course) that says those tricky Russians were testing the wrong things (very high compression rather than highly detailed files)...
http://blogs.msdn.com/billcrow/archive/2006/10/20/msu-evaluates-windows-media-photo-vs-jpeg-2000.aspx

However even the counter article only shows marginal (2db) advantage to HD Photo over JPEG 2000 (both trounce traditional JPEG)

If Canon have adopted HD Photo (which is better than standard JPEG in that it can support more than 8 bits per colour etc) I seriously hope they have also supported the more open, widely available and seemingly also very good JPEG 2000.



Feb 21, 2007 at 06:22 AM
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p.135 #7 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Not sure if it's already posted (be damned if I'm going to trawl through 336 pages to find it) but In this months Practical Photography mag, Warehouse Express have listed a 400 f5.6 IS L for ~Ģ890 (or thereabouts, I've forgotten the actual price). I'm sure its probably a typo but you never know...

The warehouse express website does not list it however.



Feb 21, 2007 at 06:28 AM
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p.135 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Geoff Costello wrote:
And consider a posting by one of the faithful here that:
Canon’s new 1D IIN replacement had:
> JPEG, RAW and HD Photo
> Dual DIGIC III
> 10mp & 10 fps
> 6400 ISO
> Special CS3 and DPP support for HD Photo

And (sob) that the 1Ds III and 40D and medium format would all not be seen at this PMA... (Madness if true since the 40D is ready by all reliable accounts and a photographer contact of mine now in NYC has seen the 1Ds II replacement at one of the studios there) Perhaps (as has been hinted) Canon are going to draw
...Show more

The above is a plausible new 1D2n. Adding a couple of fps and mps even with 6400iso won't obsolete anybodies 1D2. I don't see many camera store doors being busted down. Noticed it didn't say 1.3 or FF? That would make a big difference.

If there are several new models this year, I see marketing advantages to spreading them out over several months. Still no reason to rush a new 1Ds release. Wait till after competitors introduce their flag ship and steal their thunder.



Feb 21, 2007 at 06:40 AM
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p.135 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Geoff Costello wrote:
[...]

If Canon have adopted HD Photo (which is better than standard JPEG in that it can support more than 8 bits per colour etc) I seriously hope they have also supported the more open, widely available and seemingly also very good JPEG 2000.


With todays prices per gigabyte, I'm not all that interested in lossy compression formats. Nice, don't get me wrong, but if I have any say in it, I'd like to see Canon add support for Adobe's DNF, Digital Negative Format, the royalty free publicly available RAW format. It's more important to me to have an open format, so even 20 years from now someone can create software with full support for it.

( http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/ )
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Negative_%28file_format%29 )



Feb 21, 2007 at 06:44 AM
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p.135 #10 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Pentax is using the DNF in the K10D already. 'Bout time the others did , me's think.


Feb 21, 2007 at 06:53 AM
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p.135 #11 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


nikt wrote:
Pentax is using the DNF in the K10D already. 'Bout time the others did , me's think.

I agree... BUT
These formats like HD Photo, JPEG are for the P&S crowd as much as anyone and we need to remember that unless it has changed recently Canon and (from memory Nikon) doesn't release its RAW format calibaration details, white balance encoding etc - the RAW developers have to crack them... Sad really - I'd I was a DSLR manufacturer I'd be falling over myself to get the best possible support from the major image editors etc...

Not long to go now



Feb 21, 2007 at 06:57 AM
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p.135 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Geoff Costello wrote:
Canon’s new 1D IIN replacement had:
> JPEG, RAW and HD Photo
> Dual DIGIC III
> 10mp & 10 fps
> 6400 ISO
> Special CS3 and DPP support for HD Photo


Dual processor? I think tyour information comes from a funny guy.

If Canon want more speed they already have Digic3 and ddr-ram.

What Canon really needs is new A/D converters with speed, excellent S/N ratio and NO BANDING.



Feb 21, 2007 at 06:58 AM
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p.135 #13 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Dr D wrote:
Not sure if it's already posted (be damned if I'm going to trawl through 336 pages to find it) but In this months Practical Photography mag, Warehouse Express have listed a 400 f5.6 IS L for ~Ģ890 (or thereabouts, I've forgotten the actual price). I'm sure its probably a typo but you never know...

The warehouse express website does not list it however.

Though the website has the 400mm f5.5 L for Ģ835... Perhaps that is what you were looking at... Any IS version would be more... Barring a miracle of course



Feb 21, 2007 at 07:04 AM
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p.135 #14 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Geoff Costello wrote:
I agree... BUT
These formats like HD Photo, JPEG are for the P&S crowd as much as anyone and we need to remember that unless it has changed recently Canon and (from memory Nikon) doesn't release its RAW format calibaration details, white balance encoding etc - the RAW developers have to crack them... Sad really - I'd I was a DSLR manufacturer I'd be falling over myself to get the best possible support from the major image editors etc...

Not long to go now


In all seriousness (don't worry, this won't last long), Nikon is the worst at keeping to themselves, and changing their RAW files. They encrypt the white balance so you can buy their supa dupa software (which is actually quite good, but should be free with the camera).

Initially they wouldn't even release the white balance encryption to Adobe, and there were fighting words for a while. I think the CEO's mothers' came over and clipped both of them around the head a few times, and made them sit in on the floor and build lego or something together.






Feb 21, 2007 at 07:06 AM
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p.135 #15 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Can anyone translate and/or explain this page?

http://www.pressefotografforbundet.dk/teknik/index.php?id=3516&action=info

(found on dpreview forums)



Feb 21, 2007 at 07:23 AM
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p.135 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I'm sure Frank would prefer the proper spelling of "Dinah Moe Humm"


Feb 21, 2007 at 07:28 AM
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p.135 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


DynoMoHum wrote:
Can anyone translate and/or explain this page?

http://www.pressefotografforbundet.dk/teknik/index.php?id=3516&action=info

(found on dpreview forums)


Donīt worry too much, the body camera itīs an old design (1984) made by Colani (I hope I did it wrote correctly). It was a biodesign exercise although it looks very actual as I did mentioned in a thread something like 150 pages ago.

For the rest, itīs a compilation of all the rumors known until now.

The artist (Colani) is available at : [url=http://www.colani.ch/frame.htm]http://www.colani.ch/frame.htm[/url]

Even there are a page with 3 designs from him for a possible Canon project - 35mm - MF & Submarine -, available here:

[url=http://www.canonfd.com/colani.htm]http://www.canonfd.com/colani.htm[/url]

Edited by Juan55 on Feb 21, 2007 at 01:48 PM GMT



Feb 21, 2007 at 07:29 AM
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p.135 #18 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Maybe he would... but I did not pick my screen name in an effort to please Frank, even if you could please a dead man. However I suspect he really wouldn't give a #### about my screen name.

jamesf99 wrote:
I'm sure Frank would prefer the proper spelling of "Dinah Moe Humm"




Feb 21, 2007 at 07:41 AM
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p.135 #19 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


That would explain it... I thought that was kind of a 'ugly' thing... and can understand that it may have been 'interesting' in 1984... Thanks for the explaination.


Juan55 wrote:
Donīt worry too much, the body camera itīs an old design (1984) made by Colani (I hope I did it wrote correctly). It was a biodesign exercise although it looks very actual as I did mentioned in a thread something like 150 pages ago.

For the rest, itīs a compilation of all the rumors known until now.

The artist (Colani) is available at : [url=http://www.colani.ch/frame.htm]http://www.colani.ch/frame.htm[/url]

Even there are a page with 3 designs from him to a Canon project - 35mm - MF & Submarine -, available here:

[url=http://www.canonfd.com/colani.htm]http://www.canonfd.com/colani.htm[/url]




Feb 21, 2007 at 07:45 AM
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p.135 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


DynoMoHum wrote:
Can anyone translate and/or explain this page?


This is a "how funny with all these rumours flying around" page. It's just referring to a the speculations on the net these days.

The camera on the page was designed by Colani for Canon in 1984!

All in all, just a page about all the pre-PMA Canon rumours.

Peter (Dane)



Feb 21, 2007 at 07:51 AM
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