mfurman wrote:
That is why they are becoming arrogant. I may agree with what you said but I do not like what they have been doing lately. As a matter of fact I have already sold quite a bit of my Canon equipment and just waiting another month or so.
What are you moving to and how is it so much better than what Canon has to offer?
mfurman wrote:
I agree, I will be one of them (I got my first Canon SLR in 1989)
I got my first one in 1966 and my patience is growing thin too. I have a 1DsMKII and 1DMKIIn right now but what I want is a D2x type of camera for wildlife and birds. Not the dual crop mode but a 12MP cropped sensor.
I was hoping Canon would come through with a new 1DMKIII with 12+ MP and a 1.25x crop. The FOV of the 1DsMKII is too small to accurately focus on birds in a distance and the 1DMKIIn doesn't have a enough MP's for cropping situations. Playing with the 5D and having owned the 1Ds I found the 12MP range just about right for file size and the ability to crop and still maintain good detail.
I came close to switching to the D2x when it came out but I waited to see if they would come out with an update for the 1DMKII. Then came the 1DMKIIn.
The only thing that prevented me from selling all of my Canon equipment and moving to Nikon was the lenses. They don't offer VR in their 400 f/2.8, 500 f/4, and 600 f/4.
mfurman wrote:
That is why they are becoming arrogant. I may agree with what you said but I do not like what they have been doing lately. As a matter of fact I have already sold quite a bit of my Canon equipment and just waiting another month or so.
Yes, they appear and may in fact be arrogant. That doesn't change the fact that they are by far the best game in town, and my own personal experience with Canon employees has been great. I was one of those who returned a 70-300IS due to the portrait problem. They took it back and gave me my money back (including shipping and mack warranty) with absolutely no problem whatsoever.
I am not sure of what your personal beef is with them, but you should be more upset with the other companies that can't compete. The fact that Canon R&D blew through some massive barriers long before anyone else is a testament to their ingenuity and hard work. The fact that there is no one apparently pushing them to do more is an indictment on their competitors and not Canon. The complacent companies are Nikon and the rest who are only interested in the lower end markets where they can make a lot more money with a lot less capability. Nikon's big announcements last year were to introduce LOWER end DSLR's than what they were already selling. The D80 is a watered down D200 and the D40 is a cheaper version of the D70. No doubt Nikon will become more profitable, but I assume you want to buy equipment that is better than what you have and not worse.
Pixel density is one of the few areas where other companies have an advantage on Canon. But it's also a disadvantage in that other companies are having difficulty making large sensor economically.
I don't know what arrogant means in the context of criticizing Canon. They spend billions of dollars on R&D, but aren't going to release new products because they don't have to? They've promised new products but haven't delivered because they don't have to?
I sold some stuff to "regroup" but if Canon does not do anything, it will be easier for me to "punish" them (even if I am going to lose the most). I am actually not serious about the jump but I do not like something about their attitude these days.
It is entirely possible that the big meeting in New York coincides with the retirement of Dave Metz, Director of Professional Products at Canon U.S.A., and has nothing to do with new product offerings.
On the other hand, the amount of floor space Canon has reserved at PMA would make it seem they will have something to show...or the marketing department needs the extra space for a big, flashy show booth to make up for the fact that they don't have anything to unveil.
Johnny Blood wrote:
On the other hand, the amount of floor space Canon has reserved at PMA would make it seem they will have something to show...or the marketing department needs the extra space for a big, flashy show booth to make up for the fact that they don't have anything to unveil.
A bunch of new P&S and printers to use those print buttons on.
Also, what concerns me is that we knew a heck of a lot more about the 5D and 400D before they were released. I certainly would have expected to know something more substantial by now. Then again, Erwin Puts might have been right all along.
Maybe RikWriter meant potential customers? As in first time buyers looking for a new digital SLR?
Most old timers and veterans, 4 years or more in the digital age realize that things change back and forth.
Nobody with an extensive selection of glass is going to trade over a single event, or even 3. (PMA2006, PK2006 PMA2007)
Like many others have mentioned, the introduction of a new camera, or in this case the NON-introduction of a new camera doesn't make what we already own garbage.
mfurman wrote:
I agree, I will be one of them (I got my first Canon SLR in 1989)
WAiting to get sensor cleaning tech into the bodies? Waiting to get a newer sensor? Figuring out where the 2nd direct print button should go? Manufacture glitch they had to retool over?
dcmiller wrote:
Let's turn the question, why wouldn't they have a 1 series to announce?
dcmiller wrote:
Let's turn the question, why wouldn't they have a 1 series to announce?
I can think of a couple of rationales for not releasing a new 1 series camera, mostly to do with taking the wind out of competitors sails.
There is no great urgency for them in releasing either a new 1Ds series or a 1DII series camera, as they already own both markets.
If they released now, then presumably at some stage Nikon or Sony will come out with a FF camera, or a new variant of the D2H for sports, and if Canon have alrready released their cameras in these categories then their newness may attract attention.
OTOH, if they release their first FF camera, or a new sports camera, and Canon pretty soon come up with a next generation model, it gives the feeling that these models the opposition have come out with are just released and already left behind.
I don't really believe this scenario though, but what I do believe is that the most urgent part of the Canon range for an upgrade is the D30, and it may make sense not to release too many new models at once.
Regards,
You mean 30D, right? Assuming so I agree. Canon does own the pro body market (aided largely by the lens selection offered. Why would they want to change it, especially if, as has been hypothesized numerous times in this thread, it requires a new mount? It'd be a bad business move at the moment. But a 40D to compete with the competitors where the competitors are wining the market at the moment would be the top priority, but it'd be a big mistake to have "only" a 2 mp upgrade as it will seem to the public that its not much of a jump, a 12.x mp sensor would pull a lot more business in, imo.
Strid3r wrote:
You mean 30D, right? Assuming so I agree. Canon does own the pro body market (aided largely by the lens selection offered. Why would they want to change it, especially if, as has been hypothesized numerous times in this thread, it requires a new mount? It'd be a bad business move at the moment. But a 40D to compete with the competitors where the competitors are wining the market at the moment would be the top priority, but it'd be a big mistake to have "only" a 2 mp upgrade as it will seem to the public that its not much of a jump, a 12.x mp sensor would pull a lot more business in, imo....Show more →
I could live with a 12MP 40D with improved AF at this time but a 10MP model won't get my attention.
Back in my traveling days, I ate at restaurants alone. Often the young host or hostess would ask, "Just one?" I'd sometimes say, "No, my friend Harvey here will eat too." Over the course of a decade, exactly one hostess knew what I was talking about and laughed. I had to explain it to all the others.
AutumnFire wrote:
Oddly enough, I played Elwood in a production of the show. Since I'm posting: I'll predict a 5d mII with a larger buffer and a (somewhat) increased framerate.
darknite wrote:
Maybe RikWriter meant potential customers? As in first time buyers looking for a new digital SLR?
That is exactly what I meant. The Rebel XTi is already losing the battle with the D80. They NEED to introduce something to grab that bit of the market back.
I find no suprise in Canon working to improve supressing any leaks in product development news. Why shouldn't we expect them to get better at controlling leaks?
No news is good news, it means there is something good to hide...The 50/20 year anniversary has less rollout impact when it's old news, opening night of PMA.
I went back and looked at human Erwin's statement. He refers to "Canon's statement". So he's looking at a document. A joke? Probably not, but who can say.
he says:
"mysterious comment that the 1D has no memory buffer"
I poo pooed that quickly.
But what if the camera has internal storage? What if extending that storage is one of the option with the grip? It would still have card slots, but options in how the cards are used. Maybe just one slot with an SD adapter.
