Surprisingly very little. This is because of the relatively large slits in the hood portion of the FilterView. You see mostly the slits then a small area which is the solid portion of the holder. Sounds crazy but true. By the way I am not proposing this as the ultimate solution. The ultimate solution is proper Leica IR cut filteers......one for each lens. As I said in my previous posts, I want to be sure of the value before I plonk down $150 per filter and I need 10 filters! The FilterView gives me a low cost way to use a single filter and cover all of my lenses.
William,
Your color picture is gorgeous and I like it better than the B&W one, by quite a bit actually. The somewhat purplish tint of her sweater is not objectionable at all. I think we are overly sensitive to that issue and are paying too much attention to that. On your image, that aspect is a non-issue at all, at least to me. I also like the somewhat grainy appearance... What ISO did you use on that?
williamcarter wrote:
So, for those of you with "old" M8s, without IR filters, and not using C1, how do you deal with the magenta problem? Or is the simple answer that there's no way to deal with it other than IR filters and/or C1.
It's the reason I sold mine -- it drove me nuts. Personally, I think the ONLY thing the current M8 is good for is B&W conversions or casual snapshots where you don't care about accurate or even predictable color. I think anybody thinking they are going to have a controlable color-managed workflow with this camera is screwed before they get out the door, even with the filters over the lens... Just aint gonna happen reliably until Leica addresses and corrects the IR cut filter at the sensor...
Thank you. For this particular image, I actuall agree that the magenta cast isn't that big a deal. The problem, as Jack noted, is that it's neither predictable nor controllable and therefore creates serious problems for professional work. E.g., had I been shooting her for commercial purposes (as a hair model, clothing model, whatever), the client would expect black clothes to be black.
Oh, and it was shot at ISO 640.
AGeoJO wrote:
William,
Your color picture is gorgeous and I like it better than the B&W one, by quite a bit actually. The somewhat purplish tint of her sweater is not objectionable at all. I think we are overly sensitive to that issue and are paying too much attention to that. On your image, that aspect is a non-issue at all, at least to me. I also like the somewhat grainy appearance... What ISO did you use on that?
t_streng wrote:
Woody,
looks very flexible filter solution but such a huge filter on tiny lens looks scary to me.
Hey Tom
I agree although I use an old Nikon lens cap to protect the IR filter. I think it looks far worse than it really is. Obviously there is no issue when I am shooting a landscape. Nor really for much generalized shooting. It is no more "threatening" than my SLR when shooting portraits. Clearly it is at a disadvantage for stealthy street shooting. Again the issue here was to get a relatively inexpensive way to control the IR problems without the expense of a filter per lens until the need for IR filters are clearly established. I am sure that, in the end we will all end up with the filter per lens but having 10 M lenses that is a $1500 investment.......hardly chump change.
I figured selecting the sweater and select color would do it, but that's a pain....
Guy Mancuso wrote:
William give me her phone number and i will tell you. ROTFLMAO
You can just select the purple sweater and do a selectcolor in PS and make it black. Than jamie has profiles and get the darn IR filter folks that is what you need.
Besides that were working on it.
Seriously the color is going to get better 1.09 version looks better from what i have seen and i will have 1.09 on Monday and will run a quick test but were getting there just need to work some magic without filters. The IR filters i can process in any converter just need to make adjustments...Show more →
Thanks so much Guy. I am now downloading both the windows and Mac versions. Given the file size at 685 MBytes for the Mac version I should be operational in about a week! HaHa
Guy Mancuso wrote:
I might be sold on ACR for the M8 right now , this is just cranking clean files . I am feeling so much better. Gone back and looked at some skin tone stuff and there much better. Yahoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My sentiments exactly, they must have done some heavy camera calibrations over at Adobe Labs
Guy Mancuso wrote:
Jan it is flying. Try this a 5 point gaussium blur on a 200 mg file. How about 5 seconds
Oh bummer. I was kinda hoping it would be same so I didn't have a great reason to buy a MacBook Pro!
woodyspedden wrote:
Thanks so much Guy. I am now downloading both the windows and Mac versions. Given the file size at 685 MBytes for the Mac version I should be operational in about a week! HaHa
It's at times like this I'm really happy to have 6M/768k ADSL!
