> try contacting the UK Leica Rep and see if he will loan you a M8 for a day or so.
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately Leica gave me a "no way" on that one, but they did give me a dealer who will let me try, so am going there today. The dealer said that all 5 pros at open day yesterday preferred the M8 files to 1Ds2 files, so expecting great things. Will take 5D to do some kind of comparison which I aim to post here.
Just in case it's useful to anyone, I was trying to work out which equivalent lenses to take to my M8 test today and I realised that doing crop factors on a calculator is a bore, so I built a fairly versatile crop factor calculator here: http://braine.com/cropcalculator
Guy,
What profile did you use for these shots? I have a cut filter, but can't use it until I get the step-up rings that I have on order. I tried the P30 Flash-Easy black profile, but am not thrilled with the results with that profile.
Thanks for all of your hard work. It is appreciated.
Thanks Guy, I don't have the cut filter on, so I tried the P30 on my files. I found that it fixes the magenta, but is rather dull. I appreciate that so many people are working on this.
I hope that you will be posting more tutorials on LUG.
Cindy, try the P 30-CM00 Flash-easy black profile if you don't have filters. I think this punches it up a bit and still keeps the blacks black. Let me know what you think.
Cindy Flood wrote:
I tried the P30 Flash-Easy black profile, but am not thrilled with the results with that profile.
Cindy,
I really like this profile - Although the overall color seems to be less saturated compared to that of images converted using the designated camera profile, the rendition of the color definitely is more accurate. No filter for me, please, thank you . You can increase the saturation if you feel like it in PS. Or like Kurt suggested the P 30-CM00 Flash Easy Black is somewhere in the middle. The M8 profile is definitely too hot, at least for my taste.
Guy Mancuso wrote:
Now as far as sharpness and detail , i still say the DMR beats anything out there inclusing the 1dsMKII , you know the thread but regardless be it stick a leica lens on a Canon or a Leica will come out way ahead of the came .
- If it only was true. If you crop the 1Ds II picture down to a factor of 1,33 you have a result very similar to the DMR. The Canon EOS 1Ds II is in a class of it's own when it comes to resolution and low noice at high ISO. Full Frame.
But the DMR is close. Which is impressive as coming from a small mechanical workshop in Southern Germany.. Leica should now follow this up with a FF DSLR - all dedicated 'digital'. Fast!
That Leica glas is 'better' than Canon's is also a mythical and too simple a statement. Most of Canon's L-glas compares fine with Leica's. But Leica has yet to produce a camera that puts their glas to the test. As Canon's does.
brainiac wrote:
I think the question of colour accuracy should matter to a serious photographer (presumably anyone buying an M8 is serious).
So given that now you only have one film that you are going to use for every job, some of which may demand the truest colour, it is not unreasonable to suggest that colour fidelity is a crucial aspect of a capture device.
Pros try to avoid colour shifting in scanners, printers, inks and papers, on the premise that colour shifting, when required, should be a deliberate choice.
I did not repeat the entire quote - but would have to agree
Jaap, that's great advice. I saw that on the Leica User Forum this morning and did exactly that. It worked like a charm. It's nice because the extra profiles give you a few more choices.
I just tried Kurt's suggestion of the P30-CM00 Flash Easy black on my test photo. (I was walking down the street and I saw this polyester outfit hanging out in front of a store. I had to laugh at the irony.) http://upload.pbase.com/image/70267106/large.jpg
There is still a hint of magenta, but Kurt is right, it has more punch than the P30 Flash Easy black profile.
Cindy, does the other profile eliminate all of the magenta? Looks close, but that magenta tint might be bothersome. Experimenting with the settings to find one that works best for you is probably key. For me, it's a workable solution for those instances where the sensitivity is high...especially since Guy has gobbled up all of the available filters.
I am only showing this because it is of interest to those of us who don't have the cut filters yet. This is just a starting point. This is right out of C1 with no adjustments or sharpening. It is only a test photo. YMMV
I am just showing my test shot (that exhibited magenta) as it comes out of C1 with the three different profiles that have been discussed here.
