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Olsen wrote:
- Sorry
Apology accepted 
but I think your test is far off. - Just bull
Thanks, I thought there was a funny smell around here 
Anyway (you do know I am joking right?)....... you assume that I set out to do a test, whereas I did not. I simply went to a Leica dealer with a memory card to take a few shots that I could bring home and examine on my own monitor. I just happened to grab a few shots with the 1Ds2 as I left.
It was not intended to be a 'test' in any controlled way. What I came away with are the shots taken by the respective cameras 'on the day'. I have to tell you I was VERY dissapointed by the 1Ds2 results, because this camera has generally (99% of the time) produced excelent results for me, and I honestly expected better. There have been times where there have been some unexplained noise, and perhaps some focus errors, which is probably what happened here. So, 'on the day', the M8 produced the better results, but the next day it may have been the other way around.
I did not post the shots here as a 'hey look at my test results', so please, don't any one spend their $5K (Ł3K) based on these shots, because I do not expect them to be representative of all shots taken all the time by all people !! Remember, I was merely happier with the M8 shots taken 'on the day'.
To me, what is important is not whether the M8, 5D, 1Ds2 or any other camera you care to mention is the 'best' at everything. I don't care if the 5D is less noisy at ISO 3200 than the M8 is at (say) 1250, or whether the 1Ds2 'should' provide more resolution. What is important to me (and I am sure a lot of other people) is can the M8 deliver the goods on the day I want to use it as my preferred tool. If the answer is yes, then it's good enough. If the answer is no, then you should choose a different tool that day.
There are times when size and weight are no object, and I can turn up with a couple of 'rollers' full of gear. Then there are times when a 1Ds2 + a couple of decent lenses are just too big & bulky, too heavy and too 'pro looking' to allow me to get where I want to be and take the shots I want to take.
This should not be a Rangefinder vs SLR question, it should be a 'can the M8 do the job I want'? If it can't do the job you want (this is not aimed any any one in particular!), then move on, and stop criticising every aspect of the Rangefinder concept. Just move on.....
I don't see the need to choose between Rangefinder and SLR. They should not have to be mutually exclusive technologies. I want them both, as a compliment to each other. If you can only afford one of the them, and you are happy with the 5D or 1Ds2, or you need super high ISO performance, then stick with what you have already. For others who don't need that kind of performance 'day-in day-out', then you need to evaluate both types (RF and SLR) yourself, and not rely on words and images posted here. For those people who already have SLRs and were thinking of swapping (as opposed to adding), I suggest you wait until Leica have done their fixes, and all the fog has cleared. There seems little point evaluating (and if you don't like what you see - start bashing) a product which is still undergoing changes. Wait for it to mature, then come back and have another look. Until then..... move on..... and be happy 
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