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Archive 2006 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens

  
 
Xavier Rival
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p.3 #1 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Is it a mistake of mine or do I see the tripod collar among the packaged accessories ?


Aug 24, 2006 at 04:09 AM
John P Mulgrew
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p.3 #2 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


If this price remains the same then wouldn't be worth it to spend 400 bucks more to get the 2.8 IS?


Aug 24, 2006 at 05:08 AM
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p.3 #3 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


If the price difference is less than 500$ I will stick with my original plan: Save for the 70-200/2.8 IS.


Aug 24, 2006 at 05:38 AM
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p.3 #4 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


I think they tell us who this is for in the release - travel photographers. This is a fantastic lens for the baby boom demographic who hop aboard cruise ships or jet off to Paris, have a great deal of disposable income, want the best they can get in their camera bag...with one caveat: Weight. The 2.8 IS version is excellent, but I have seen a number of 50+ men with a lot of disposable income scoff at the notion of hauling it around. And I've never seen an older lady hauling the 2.8 IS (though I sure it has happened somewhere).

The f4 IS version, at just a tad over the weight of the non-IS version, will see its popularity with folks who are serious travellers first, and photographers second, I should think.




Aug 24, 2006 at 05:57 AM
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p.3 #5 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


I think the price makes sense, and am amazed at the small package. It's a nice complement to a 24-105, and about at the same price point. The 70-200 f4 non-IS was the cheapest L out there, so we can hope but not expect that it's price point is replicated.


Aug 24, 2006 at 06:15 AM
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p.3 #6 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Im pretty pleased with it as well...

1. weather sealed
2. Still light weight
3. Still small
4. Circular aperture
5. Better coatings
6. 4-stop IS
7. Closer min focus

I think they make an already excellent lens nearly perfect. I think the price reflects the whole new package, not simply slapping IS into the old one.

Now all we need is a new weather sealed body....



Aug 24, 2006 at 06:26 AM
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p.3 #7 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


I'm not sure why the big surprise at the price. Sure, I'd love the price to be $800, but that wasn't happening. The difference of the two non-IS versions is about $500. I'm sure after the initial rush, the difference between the two IS versions will be about the same as well.

Personally, I'm pretty excited about this lens. I don't shoot sports so I don't need the 2.8. At least it appears the IQ is just as good (if not better) than the non-IS version. Weight/Size is exactly the same. Weather sealing... I really couldn't have asked for more.

Chris



Aug 24, 2006 at 06:36 AM
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p.3 #8 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Xavier Rival wrote:
Is it a mistake of mine or do I see the tripod collar among the packaged accessories ?


Unfortunately it's extra...

Can't complain about the lens features, only the price at $1249.
I think $1000 including the tripod mount would be a fairer price for this.



Aug 24, 2006 at 06:38 AM
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p.3 #9 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


For those complaining about the price I say just because you can't afford it does not make it overpriced. Demand will determine whether or not they are at the correct price point. And they are not often wrong!






Aug 24, 2006 at 06:47 AM
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p.3 #10 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


As for the lens, I'll have to wait and see.

I just can't believe people are whining about the price. Get over it and quit whining. I read for years about how people wanted a f/4L IS did they really think it was going to be cheap? This is exactly the price I said it would be the other day in one of my posts and it was about as easy

Canon makes money on lenses, not on bodies. The 24-105 was $1249 and I knew this would be the same. It's not about manufacturing cost, it's about what Canon can charge. With the worthless US peso, every new lens will go up significantly.

As for whethere it's worth it, I think I'll stick with my 2.8 IS.



Aug 24, 2006 at 06:57 AM
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p.3 #11 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


In Europe the 24-105/4 IS is about 950 euro if the 70-200/4 IS will be 1000 euro or less it's worth it for me. That's about 800 euro's below the 70-200/2.8 IS which is too big and too heavy for me anyway


Aug 24, 2006 at 07:09 AM
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p.3 #12 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


You don't have to be able to afford it to recognise value. How many won't bother to save up the extra because it doesn't seem worth it?

The 50/1.2 has certainly split opinions but by no stretch of any imagination can this be called value when the difference is even much greater than the more expensive 2.8 version. Amongst all of Canons decisions over the last couple of years, the pricing of this lens is the most confusing. The price differential is without precedent in Canons own range and Nikon, I'm sure we can agree is hardly a crap brand, charge a reasonable extra premium for its VR. But this.........



Aug 24, 2006 at 07:10 AM
Richie S
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p.3 #13 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


I guess they didn't want to undercut the 2.8 by too much. 4 stops IS - maybe this has something to do wth Sony claming 3 stops for their system. I'm pretty disappointed with the price too.

I guess Canon can claim to be the "guys who listen" as a lot of people wanted this lens, but I think when they were saying that they were looking for a bargain over the 2.8. The Weight is a genuine advantage though.



Aug 24, 2006 at 07:28 AM
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p.3 #14 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


I'm suprised that everyone is so suprised about the price Canon's pricing formula seems to have changed over the last few years - and I can't say that I blame them. A company should price their products in order to maximize their total profits. And I haven't noticed that Canon lens sales have slowed because of high prices. I mean the 24-105 F4 is priced right in line with this lens and I believe it sells very well - and so will this lens. Because of the prosumer digital SLRs, Canon, Nikon et all have a whole new set of customers who are willing to pay considerably more for camera equipment - And think about it, it is not just camera equipment that people will whip out their credit cards for. I feel confident that the only reason they updated this lens is because they felt it was underpriced. I am now thinking that when they update the 100-400 IS that it will sell for $2000. Oh well, you have to pay to play now.


Aug 24, 2006 at 07:39 AM
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p.3 #15 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Its all that extra cash we have laying around from not purchasing/developing film. That money is going out of Fuji & Kodak's pockets right into Canon's!


Aug 24, 2006 at 07:41 AM
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p.3 #16 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Sprout Crumble wrote:
$1249..

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Simply ridiculous.



might as well get the 2.8 IS for $300-$400 more. This seems like a silly release from my POV.



Aug 24, 2006 at 07:44 AM
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p.3 #17 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Unless of course they now up the price of the 2.8 by $500 to keep the gap there


Aug 24, 2006 at 07:46 AM
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p.3 #18 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


I think people compare used Fred Miranda prices to new lens prices sometimes.

I'm thinking the lens will drop to about $1000 easy not soon but in a few years.

If you need it, then buy it, if you don't buy the cheaper version. The price isn't that bad for a lens.



Aug 24, 2006 at 07:46 AM
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p.3 #19 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Johno wrote:
I'm disappointed with the cost. Dunno how they can justify the price of this over the Non IS. Pretty shocking really!


Maybe they're trying not to seriously annoy the suckers *cough* I mean customers that JUST bought a non-IS f/4 recently *cough cough* by creating a distinct price gap. This might limit the immediate price crash on the non-IS f/4. Add to this that we all know street price will be lower than the price in this announcement. What really cheezes me off is that all Canadian vendors seem to feel that the tripod ring is worth $229. The ring should be included (particularly for the new price) or at least be a lot cheaper.

So much for counting on slow and easy depreciation on quality L glass This is probably the single worst announcement that could come out to devalue my kit except maybe a 16-35 2.8LmkII for $700.






Aug 24, 2006 at 08:07 AM
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p.3 #20 · ~Master~ EF 70-200/4L IS Lens


Sprout Crumble wrote:
$1249..

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Simply ridiculous.




Is that Australian $ ?? U.S. pricing is usually lower. That would be List price as well.

What's the discount that B&H sells off Canon List?



Aug 24, 2006 at 08:12 AM
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