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Archive 2005What is DPP really for??
p.1 #1What is DPP really for??
Ok, so I know what it does, RAW adjustment, display images etc etc.,
My question is what can it do that you wouldn't do in EOS Viewer or in PS? When I run DPP it runs very slowly (or atleast it takes an age to load images in the main view panel).
What do you use DPP for??
(I did read a few weeks ago that DPP is better for sharpening, but to be honest I can't recall from the post how to use DPP for this additional benefit)
Looking forwrad to hearing how I can use this application better.
Graeme
My question is what can it do that you wouldn't do in EOS Viewer or in PS? When I run DPP it runs very slowly (or atleast it takes an age to load images in the main view panel).
What do you use DPP for??
(I did read a few weeks ago that DPP is better for sharpening, but to be honest I can't recall from the post how to use DPP for this additional benefit)
Looking forwrad to hearing how I can use this application better.
Graeme
Nov 11, 2005 at 04:23 AM
p.1 #3What is DPP really for??
What is 'tethered shooting'?... sounds interesting
Nov 11, 2005 at 04:32 AM
p.1 #4What is DPP really for??
Basicaly I use DPP to open RAW format from my 350D and then transfer to CS (there´s not Adobe Camera Raw plug in for CS and i don´t want to pay more for CS2) Sometimes I change a little contrast or luminosity but i usualy do this in CS.
In my computer (iMAC 20") runs so good.
In my computer (iMAC 20") runs so good.
Nov 11, 2005 at 06:07 AM
p.1 #5What is DPP really for??
In my computer (iMAC 20") runs so good.
When you say this, how long for example does it take to load a view page of 30 thumbnails? On my laptop (needs replacing by the way) it may take 1-2 minutes.
Or maybe there is a setting I can change to lower the res?? Don't know, assume it is processing power.
Graeme
Nov 11, 2005 at 06:18 AM
p.1 #6What is DPP really for??
Until this week, I had no use for DPP at all. It's slow, it's clunky, it has no documentation at all. There was simply nothing it did better than ACR.
But I have recenctly been playing with raw converters to see if there is anything I have been missing. I sent RSP the $60 because I appreciate their business model. I'm not very impressed with the color or detail so far, but the "vibrance" tool is very interesting.
I downloaded the DPP upgrade to see what was up with the "picture styles". Wow! The first couple you click on the list ("standard" and "landscape") are awful - harsh contrast and garrish color. "Portrait" apparently represents Canon's opinion that caucasions are flourescent pink. But "neutral" looked like it created a file that you could take in any direction you wanted in post, and "faithful" was just flat out beautiful. Finally, exactly the color I was trying for in a single click. Click white also now seems dead on if you have a white/grey card in the scene. The complete lack of documentation is a pain, and I will probably do little other than exposure and color at the conversion stage, but it is definately worth using on individual shots.
Just so you know, I only played with it on 1D Mark II files taken in outdoor natural light. One set was senior portraits and the other was fall foliage shots featuring the reds and yellows that were so hard to get right in ACR. It also did not seem particularly slow compared to Bridge, but I was working with smaller folders than usual (100-150 files). I was on a reasonably fast PC with 2 GB Ram.
Sherry
But I have recenctly been playing with raw converters to see if there is anything I have been missing. I sent RSP the $60 because I appreciate their business model. I'm not very impressed with the color or detail so far, but the "vibrance" tool is very interesting.
I downloaded the DPP upgrade to see what was up with the "picture styles". Wow! The first couple you click on the list ("standard" and "landscape") are awful - harsh contrast and garrish color. "Portrait" apparently represents Canon's opinion that caucasions are flourescent pink. But "neutral" looked like it created a file that you could take in any direction you wanted in post, and "faithful" was just flat out beautiful. Finally, exactly the color I was trying for in a single click. Click white also now seems dead on if you have a white/grey card in the scene. The complete lack of documentation is a pain, and I will probably do little other than exposure and color at the conversion stage, but it is definately worth using on individual shots.
Just so you know, I only played with it on 1D Mark II files taken in outdoor natural light. One set was senior portraits and the other was fall foliage shots featuring the reds and yellows that were so hard to get right in ACR. It also did not seem particularly slow compared to Bridge, but I was working with smaller folders than usual (100-150 files). I was on a reasonably fast PC with 2 GB Ram.
Sherry
Nov 11, 2005 at 06:50 AM
p.1 #7What is DPP really for??
Purds wrote:
What is 'tethered shooting'?... sounds interesting
It means that the camera uploads the image straight to a PC instead of storing ot locally. There are several advantages to doing this.
What is 'tethered shooting'?... sounds interesting
It means that the camera uploads the image straight to a PC instead of storing ot locally. There are several advantages to doing this.
Nov 11, 2005 at 06:57 AM
p.1 #8What is DPP really for??
foto-z wrote:
It means that the camera uploads the image straight to a PC instead of storing ot locally. There are several advantages to doing this.
When you say directly, you mean no card readers etc., but what advantages can there be if you shoot RAW then you can play with it in DPP or EOS viewer and store it where ever?
I'm interested to find out more on the advantages
Thanks for the info
Graeme
Purds wrote
What is 'tethered shooting'?... sounds interestingWhen you say directly, you mean no card readers etc., but what advantages can there be if you shoot RAW then you can play with it in DPP or EOS viewer and store it where ever?
I'm interested to find out more on the advantages
Thanks for the info
Graeme
Nov 11, 2005 at 07:03 AM
p.1 #9What is DPP really for??
for example, you can quickly preview each image on a PC screen instead of the tiny camera LCD screen. Also your capacity is only limited by your hard disk, not a 1GB CF card, etc.
Nov 11, 2005 at 07:23 AM
p.1 #10What is DPP really for??
DPP is a RAW converter. If you're happy with your current converter then there's no real reason to use it. Personally, I think it's the best converter out there in terms of image quality, but that's just me. It definitely has some workflow issues and the new version is buggy, but I'm willing to make those sacrifices since I'm a high ISO shooter and there's really no other option for me.
Nov 11, 2005 at 07:59 AM
p.1 #11What is DPP really for??
I've actually gone back to DPP after not liking PSCS's ACR that much. The colors are a lot more true than what I got out of ACR (not calibrated) and I can process much faster. I load the raw file, make any exposure or WB adjustments if needed, and then tweak the contrast and saturation then export. My thumbnails of my raw files load almost instantly.
I'm sure my problem with ACR is one of knowledge, but until I have time to sit down and learn it, I'm very happy with DPP.
Also, what version are you using? There was an update released awhile back that had some additional options.
I'm sure my problem with ACR is one of knowledge, but until I have time to sit down and learn it, I'm very happy with DPP.
Also, what version are you using? There was an update released awhile back that had some additional options.
Nov 11, 2005 at 08:17 AM
p.1 #12What is DPP really for??
I have used various other raw converters. After the new version of DPP came out I gave myself 2 weeeks of using it exclusively, I would either like it or hate it. Well times up and I think it works great. Very accurate colors. Yes there are some problems, mainly very poor documentation. The best thing to do is just start using it, experiment. Even the built in sharpening isn't to bad, not that I use it to often but on some photos it does a very good job.
Nov 11, 2005 at 10:31 AM
p.1 #13What is DPP really for??
the built in sharpening is in the raw adjustment and the rgb adjustment tabs. why in both? and what does the histogram slider do? every picture i try historgram adjustments on fails to show any improvement.
Nov 11, 2005 at 05:24 PM
p.1 #14What is DPP really for??
i use dpp for taking up hard disc space and thats about it,m i never use it, its slow as molassus, i aint got the time to wait for things to load,if canon ever wants more people to use its software they need to do alot of work on speeding it up among other things, i hate there software but love there cameras/lenses
Nov 11, 2005 at 05:57 PM
p.1 #15What is DPP really for??
I like canon's tool, EVU and dpp. Dpp used to have issues with noises in high iso shots, but the newer version seems fixed that.
For me, canon's tool give me the best color.
For me, canon's tool give me the best color.
Nov 11, 2005 at 06:23 PM
p.1 #16What is DPP really for??
Huh, well I've had very good luck with a few basic DPP functions. First, it loads RAW files far faster than anyother program I have, which are ACDSee, BreezeBrowser Pro, and PS CS2. When batching from a game shoot, soccer let's say, I shoot about 500-600 RAW files. My first go is with BB Pro to delete all the obviously bad ones. Then open the folder in DPP for adjustments to WB and use it to convert, in batch, to 16 bit tiff. Sometimes, I'll so a smidge of curve work in DPP before conversion. This really goes very fast and I've tried all sorts of combinations. But I use a PC so maybe Macs are different. Best, Shane
Nov 11, 2005 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #17What is DPP really for??
I use it first for batch processing, then the files go to CS2. Have never had a complaint with it other then past versions were a little slow. Newest version is actually quite usable once you get the hang of it.
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Nov 11, 2005 at 08:52 PM
p.1 #18What is DPP really for??
Is it possible to have the focus point(s) displayed in DPP?
Nov 12, 2005 at 09:32 AM
p.1 #19What is DPP really for??
DPP also gives me the best color straight without much tweaking. I found the hue slide most useful in portrait work, just a smidgen to the left or right will take care of the slight hue bias plauguing the picture.
I've tried C1 and ACR - C1's colors (even with Nielsen's profile) aren't that pleasing nor accurate. For ACR, I have to spend a lot of effort and time in order to duplicate what I see right from the start with DPP.
The only downside is that DPP doesn't have noise reduction, but it's a good thing actually. I have been forced to become more accurate in my exposure control now
I've tried C1 and ACR - C1's colors (even with Nielsen's profile) aren't that pleasing nor accurate. For ACR, I have to spend a lot of effort and time in order to duplicate what I see right from the start with DPP.
The only downside is that DPP doesn't have noise reduction, but it's a good thing actually. I have been forced to become more accurate in my exposure control now
Nov 12, 2005 at 10:27 AM
p.1 #20What is DPP really for??
another one here for DPP.
Till now i used the ver.1.0 and was happy with it,much faster then ACR,RSE.
Although for selected shots i use ACR,tabs like "detail"&lens" work so well. I just have installed the latest DPP and i see great improvement in speed and color, as well in tools .It takes about 15 sec to load 150 thumbs of raw!!! faster then anything i've seen before! Noise tool would be welcome,but not a big deal, for those cases i got ACR.
EVU used only for vewing the focus point :-) i dont know any other advantages of it.
Till now i used the ver.1.0 and was happy with it,much faster then ACR,RSE.
Although for selected shots i use ACR,tabs like "detail"&lens" work so well. I just have installed the latest DPP and i see great improvement in speed and color, as well in tools .It takes about 15 sec to load 150 thumbs of raw!!! faster then anything i've seen before! Noise tool would be welcome,but not a big deal, for those cases i got ACR.
EVU used only for vewing the focus point :-) i dont know any other advantages of it.
Nov 12, 2005 at 04:09 PM