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p.1 #1 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Sad news, but... boxing it up?!

Didn't you consider to get the 5D for the times when you need AF ?
Or don't you have any Canon glass anymore ?

Anyway this is a reason for me to stick with series-1 bodies. I'm thinking to get either the 19 Elmarit or the 21-35 Vario-Elmar. Not a real need, but it's reassuring to know I can mount every new Leica-R lens on my Canon.




Oct 10, 2005 at 01:47 PM
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p.1 #2 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Seems there is a comprimise with every lens . Boxing it up


Gee, the 5D is a compromise (in many ways), who'd a thunk it. I don't mean that directed at you Guy, but maybe now that you've said it some of those here that treat you like a deity will can it for a while and get down off their 5D boxes.



Oct 10, 2005 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #3 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


This is an odd comment. I am not sure if it is intended at a criticism of 5D owners or not...


Oct 10, 2005 at 02:04 PM
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p.1 #4 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Hammeerli,

The biggest compromise on the 5D is the photographer (being generous here) behind the viewfinder.

Josef



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:06 PM
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p.1 #5 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


On behalf of the 99% of the thankful members on the Canon forum, we appreciate your posts and work Guy.


Oct 10, 2005 at 02:12 PM
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p.1 #6 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


OT: Can we keep the productive comments coming please (and stop the pointless vindictive ones)?

Hopefully, Canon will ultimately make a 1 series digital camera the size of the 1v some day.

Guy, is this the same adapter of which I have a copy? This is one of my best adapters and I can't figure out where it came from....



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #7 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Did you test the 28 with the shroud removed? If I remove it, the back element doesn't stick out over the adapter at all.


Oct 10, 2005 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #8 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Guy Mancuso wrote:
I want it to work, it doesn't


Don't take this wrong Guy, as I think a lot of you but the 5D _does_ work as designed. It was _designed_ to work with every Canon EF (not EF-S) lens, and it does. You are attempting to do something the 5D was never designed for, don't complain when it doesn't work. Canon does not promise compatibility with every lens made by every manufacturer nor does Leica promise its lenses will work with every other manufacturers' bodies. Who is to blame more, Leica, Canon, or the third party adapter manufacturer? None of the above ... you are to blame for trying to put Ferrari wheels on a Porsche, don't be surprised when they don't fit.



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Now kids, calm down.

Read Guy's post again, very slowly and outloud to yourself. Then you will see what he said about Leica and not the 5D.



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:26 PM
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p.1 #10 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Sorry to hear that, Guy. I had hopes for this combination. I wonder if Canon made it difficult on purpose? Makes me think that 5D + Contax Zeiss is my best bet.


Oct 10, 2005 at 02:30 PM
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p.1 #11 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


This is quite sad indeed, Guy.
I realize that it would be great to have a 5D as a backup body both for AF with some Canon glass and for your DMR (with the added pluses of being FF with all your amazing Leica-R and having usable high ISOs).
Best of both worlds, I'd say.

I only hope that Canon won't follow this 5D path (regarding mirror's design) with their next cameras.
Strange as it seems, I now look at the DMR with even more interest...

Ciao



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:32 PM
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p.1 #12 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Guy is this a function of the adapter, or the fact that Leica glass sticks further into the body than Canon glass? BTW are you selling the 5D at fire sale price?


Oct 10, 2005 at 02:33 PM
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p.1 #13 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Guy Mancuso wrote:
It's a shame for guys like me that have a lot of glass in leica. The DMR backup with Body is 8 grand , i had one and sold it for more lenses

I am a Pro that could care less what name plate is on there

Edited by Guy Mancuso on Oct 10, 2005 at 07:33 PM GMT


Has a lot of leica glass (we hear over and over)

Is a pro (we hear over and over)

Has only one body. A pro with only one body




Oct 10, 2005 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #14 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Who's going to be the first exotic glass afficienado to mod the mirror on the 5D?

Kurt



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:44 PM
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p.1 #15 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Looks like your gonna have to edit that sig again Guy...(just cleaning up the little details )

Edited by John Power on Oct 10, 2005 at 02:49 PM GMT



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:48 PM
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p.1 #16 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


If I had an extra 3K laying around.....

Seriously, I'm certain it would be a great mod as the 19, 21-35, 28-90 and a few other Leica lenses would be fantastic on this camera.

Kurt



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:49 PM
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p.1 #17 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Gerry Szarek wrote:
Guy is this a function of the adapter, or the fact that Leica glass sticks further into the body than Canon glass?



It is a function of the lens. The correct adapter will nest the lens at a a ceratin "plane" to make optimum quality images. This is known as Flange-to-Film distance (or flange-back.)

I have never seen adapters that are too thin. They are usually just right or too thick. So if a thicker adapter now allows clearance, (when the correct one did not), then the lens is not nesting at the correct plane, resulting in less than optimum images.

Reflex lens design is much more complicated than large format lens design. Reflex lenses have floating elements, internal focusing elements, elements that move in groups, elements that do not move, etc, etc. There is much more involved than moving locked lens elements back and forth in unison on a board.



Oct 10, 2005 at 02:50 PM
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p.1 #18 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


mamiya wrote:
Has a lot of leica glass (we hear over and over)

Is a pro (we hear over and over)

Has only one body. A pro with only one body



Uh, if you read, he did have TWO DMRs, and bought the 5D for backup. I know many pros that have only one or two digital bodies, and have sold ALL of their other bodies.



Oct 10, 2005 at 03:37 PM
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p.1 #19 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Is that a shot of your guest house Guy? I mean you are a photographer so...


Oct 10, 2005 at 03:53 PM
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p.1 #20 · Re: 5D Leica lens owners. Big Issues


Thanks for the posts Guy. I don't think I can justify buying one of these just to modify the mirror.

As far as the detractors go, I've just started reporting 'em. It may blow up in my face, but I'm becoming more and more reluctant to start a new thread here--to likely to get crap thrown at me. Maybe if enough of these folks can get a stern warning or two, maybe things will go back to being "kinder and gentler".



Oct 10, 2005 at 04:07 PM
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